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#201
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Look. I have brightened the picture and it is just a normal female with red hair and a golden helmet.

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WRONG!
She is just an old woman with a silver crown :wizard:


More like a silver mask.

This mask!
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Am1_vf wrote...

If she's wearing a mask, that hair... could be Wynne, but her attitude doesn't seem to fit unless she has changed a lot.


Isn't Wynne dead?

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TristanHawke wrote...

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If she's wearing a mask, that hair... could be Wynne, but her attitude doesn't seem to fit unless she has changed a lot.


Isn't Wynne dead?

How should I know? People have a tandency to not staying dead in Dragon Age.

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Am1_vf wrote...

If she's wearing a mask, that hair... could be Wynne, but her attitude doesn't seem to fit unless she has changed a lot.


Dude i got news for you, she is dead...

That Is just a generic woman to represent a situation of choice.

Nothing more to speculate.

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Am1_vf wrote...

If she's wearing a mask, that hair... could be Wynne, but her attitude doesn't seem to fit unless she has changed a lot.


Wynne's dead though, and not in the "walking corpse" variety.

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I'd say she is empress celene with an orlisian mask on.

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Am1_vf wrote...

TristanHawke wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

If she's wearing a mask, that hair... could be Wynne, but her attitude doesn't seem to fit unless she has changed a lot.


Isn't Wynne dead?

How should I know? People have a tandency to not staying dead in Dragon Age.


You obviously didnt read Asunder did you?

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Had to laugh at the guy who was talking about how you could choose between so many armors, so many races, so many classes... and totally left out that you can choose to play as a woman OR a man. e__e


BioWare has set that precedent a long time ago.  No need to mention it.  Now if you were talking about 'The witcher'.....


If we're talking to old fans, then yeah that's the precedent, but conferences like that are supposed to be selling points for NEW consumers. Why leave out one thing that can be a deciding factor in whether or not a gamer buys something, especially something as important as gender coice?


Fine, I'll take the bait.

He could have not mentioned for a number of reasons. I'll go ahead and list them in least likely to most likely for you.

Least Likely - in order to have race selection for Dragon Age 3 they had to drop gender choice in character creation. Sacrifices must be made after all.
Likely - The developer never considered playing as a woman and probably doesn't play as women in RPGs, thus, the idea of mentioning the gender option never crossed his mind.
Most Likely - It's ****ing BioWare. You get your choice of genitalia. Even for "new consumers" it's practically known universally through osmosis.


re: the bold, not necessarily. I'm a fan of the Mass Effect series, but I had no idea you could play as a female Shepard until I actually started the game, because every single promo I saw for it was for the default male Shepard. I had been iffy on playing it until that point, but if I'd known that I could play a female PC, I probably would've bought it sooner.

For a lot of players, choice in a customizable PC matters, especially in regards to playing male or female, so to leave that out at a conference geared towards enticing people to buy is a weird oversight when talking specifically about choice of customization. 

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Melca36 wrote...

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How should I know? People have a tandency to not staying dead in Dragon Age.


You obviously didnt read Asunder did you?

Obviously.

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Brightened it up a wee bit. Does look like a kossith IMO.


WHOA! What's this from? I don't remember seeing that in the video! 

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Siona, it's in a corner in that video.
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Siona wrote...

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Brightened it up a wee bit. Does look like a kossith IMO.


WHOA! What's this from? I don't remember seeing that in the video! 


2:16 or so.

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Am1_vf wrote...

If she's wearing a mask, that hair... could be Wynne, but her attitude doesn't seem to fit unless she has changed a lot.


Can't be her, Asunder (book).

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Siona wrote...

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Siona wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Siona wrote...

Had to laugh at the guy who was talking about how you could choose between so many armors, so many races, so many classes... and totally left out that you can choose to play as a woman OR a man. e__e


BioWare has set that precedent a long time ago.  No need to mention it.  Now if you were talking about 'The witcher'.....


If we're talking to old fans, then yeah that's the precedent, but conferences like that are supposed to be selling points for NEW consumers. Why leave out one thing that can be a deciding factor in whether or not a gamer buys something, especially something as important as gender coice?


Fine, I'll take the bait.

He could have not mentioned for a number of reasons. I'll go ahead and list them in least likely to most likely for you.

Least Likely - in order to have race selection for Dragon Age 3 they had to drop gender choice in character creation. Sacrifices must be made after all.
Likely - The developer never considered playing as a woman and probably doesn't play as women in RPGs, thus, the idea of mentioning the gender option never crossed his mind.
Most Likely - It's ****ing BioWare. You get your choice of genitalia. Even for "new consumers" it's practically known universally through osmosis.


re: the bold, not necessarily. I'm a fan of the Mass Effect series, but I had no idea you could play as a female Shepard until I actually started the game, because every single promo I saw for it was for the default male Shepard. I had been iffy on playing it until that point, but if I'd known that I could play a female PC, I probably would've bought it sooner.

For a lot of players, choice in a customizable PC matters, especially in regards to playing male or female, so to leave that out at a conference geared towards enticing people to buy is a weird oversight when talking specifically about choice of customization. 


Except for the part where the main demographic (whether BioWare wants it or not) is dudes. More dudes are going to be interested in playing as a dude (and as a dude developer, more likely to refer to the protagonist as a dude) than a woman. It wasn't a sleight against you, or women, to say that the Inquisitor was a he. BioWare has a reputation that they appreciate and cultivate. One developer, speaking only for himself, shouldn't invalidate that. BioWare's also been trying to appease the group of people who choose female avatars by including promotional material that promotes the female version of their protagonist. Mass Effect 3's reversable cover and customized trailers, I think, was going above and beyond the call of duty to show love to the female Shepards of the galaxy. 

When a company is that devoted to representing their fanbase, one dev diary that doesn't mention female players isn't as big a deal as you're making it out to be.

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DiegoRaphael wrote...

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 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
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She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.


To me she is the player character, having to make a decision about someones life...


That was my thought exactly.
They did show her when they were talking about choices you had to make, sentences to pass, etc...

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I want to believe. D:

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Am1_vf wrote...

TristanHawke wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

If she's wearing a mask, that hair... could be Wynne, but her attitude doesn't seem to fit unless she has changed a lot.


Isn't Wynne dead?

How should I know? People have a tandency to not staying dead in Dragon Age.

Had to say, this made me laugh.  I had forgotten about the dead undead, it's gonna get rough out there.

Celene has blonde hair is it her?

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Mila-banilla wrote...

I got really excited for this! I want this hat for my Rogue :D
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Agreed, I hope the hat comes in female Dwarf size, this fits my preferrence for Charming Roguish Bards much better than the Assassin Creed style hoods they had in DAII.

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Whether Kossith will be playable or not, there is no question that this is a female Kossith. What people are seeing as her "red hair" is rolled up cloth  going up around the neck as in this picture:

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I was wondering why some people kept talking about red hair...

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fiveforchaos wrote...

Mila-banilla wrote...

I got really excited for this! I want this hat for my Rogue :D
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Agreed, I hope the hat comes in female Dwarf size, this fits my preferrence for Charming Roguish Bards much better than the Assassin Creed style hoods they had in DAII.


Plus your rogue can go to Ladies' Day at Royal Ascot straight afterwards.

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Baelyn wrote...



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Whether Kossith will be playable or not, there is no question that this is a female Kossith. What people are seeing as her "red hair" is rolled up cloth  going up around the neck as in this picture:

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Still, her face seems a bit bigger compared to the hair, as if it would indeed be a mask overlapping.

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I'm really strapped for time so could someone link me to the vid?

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Quinnzel wrote...

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Brightened it up a wee bit. Does look like a kossith IMO.


Not to burst anyone's bubble, but I think that the mask is looking like a stronger candidate in light of this bit of concept art:

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I'd love to play a Tal'Vashoth Inquisitor, but I think at this stage we should still try to manage our expectations.

Modifié par Cairodin, 20 août 2013 - 05:58 .


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BasilKarlo wrote...

I'm really strapped for time so could someone link me to the vid?


It's on the official site now.