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I really want an ambitious Tevinter mage inspired by Machiavelli's the prince.

We have not had a proper tevinter perspective/companion yet and it would be cool to get a better idea of their point of veiw. 

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Jackel159357 wrote...

I really want an ambitious Tevinter mage inspired by Machiavelli's the prince.

We have not had a proper tevinter perspective/companion yet and it would be cool to get a better idea of their point of veiw. 


Wait which interpretation of The Prince? There are kind of a lot of ways read it.

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EJ107 wrote...

Friera wrote...

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I want this hottie...


Eveangaline wrote...

Wasn't there supposed to be some bald elf guy?


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I think he's the only guy in the war room concept art we've seen in other places (outside the leak) and isn't a confirmed companion. 

I am 90% sure he is a companion. 


Hm. Interersting!
I hope we can add some hair on him though. Bald has never been a hit ;)

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 Just my speculation, but that war room concept art + Gaider's comments give the vibe that Cullen might be an ally/agent leading a faction of the divided templars maybe, but not a companion. Hell, maybe even "Grey Warden" too, as much as I'd love either (or both :kissing:) of them as a LIs companions.

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Alejandrawrr wrote...

 Just my speculation, but that war room concept art + Gaider's comments give the vibe that Cullen might be an ally/agent leading a faction of the divided templars maybe, but not a companion. Hell, maybe even "Grey Warden" too, as much as I'd love either (or both :kissing:) of them as a LIs companions.


I think DG is talking about Scribe Girl and Flaily-Hands guy. And we know that Leliana isn't a companion. That leaves Cullen and Chill Elf Dude while still cutting out "many of them".

Quoting DG:

"I see people assuming that everyone pictured here (other than the
Inquisitor, obviously) are party members. HAHA WRROONNG! Many of them
are not. And the woman behind the Inquisitor is not Vivienne, either.
Try again, suckers. :P #meangirl"

And here's the picture for reference:

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Alejandrawrr wrote...

 Just my speculation, but that war room concept art + Gaider's comments give the vibe that Cullen might be an ally/agent leading a faction of the divided templars maybe, but not a companion. Hell, maybe even "Grey Warden" too, as much as I'd love either (or both :kissing:) of them as a LIs companions.


I agree with this 100%.  I believe I mentioned this elsewhere, and the counterargument against my opinion was that 1) Given Cullen's history, story and age, it's a now or never sort of thing, and 2)BioWare knows Cullen has a strong fan base. 

But, unfortunately, it really makes more sense that Cullen will be an agent. :(

As far as male LI's go, maybe we'll have to choose between the Magister (Dorian?) and the Iron Bull.:?

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from ArinTheirinCousland post:

Since we get Kossith as a playable race, my guess is that Ironbull is out (or actually it's story becomes the PC background).

Bald elf is in.

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By the way: More Cullen.

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David Gaider did say that the fans may not like the direction they're going with Cullen. It may mean that Cullen is an agent instead. I would be so disappointed...

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

David Gaider did say that the fans may not like the direction they're going with Cullen. It may mean that Cullen is an agent instead. I would be so disappointed...


Or just that he isn't romanceable.

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Eveangaline wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

David Gaider did say that the fans may not like the direction they're going with Cullen. It may mean that Cullen is an agent instead. I would be so disappointed...


Or just that he isn't romanceable.

Somehow, that sounds even worse. ^_^

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Personally, I never understood why so many wanted Cullen as a companion. I don't dislike the character, but most of his character traits have already been explored:

Blond, boyishly good looking Templar who's shy with women? Alistair.

Brooding warrior who hates mages because all the abuse he's suffered at their hands? Fenris.

Platonic, vitriolic best buds Templar? Carver.

Sure, you could have Cullen as a Companion who distills the best of all those qualities, but at this point it just seems like window dressing to me.

From a gameplay standpoint, we already have Cassandra and/or the Grey Warden as our sword and board warrior, and possibly Iron Bull as the 2 handed damage dealer, so there's not much left for Cullen as a party member, strategy wise. I will concede that it's still possible for him to be a non-Companion romance, like Steve Cortez or Samantha Traynor.

Modifié par Walter Black, 05 septembre 2013 - 06:47 .


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Or it may mean that he's an enemy.

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thats1evildude wrote...

Or it may mean that he's an enemy.

Would be strange for him to stand in the war room with inquisitor then. 

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

Would be strange for him to stand in the war room with inquisitor then. 


Assuming that IS Cullen and that this concept art is reflective of the final product ...

I just bring it up as a possibility. I myself have wondered what place Cullen could have as a companion if Cassandra is serving as a sword and shield warrior and the Iron Bull as a possible two-handed warrior.

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Walter Black wrote...

Personally, I never understood why so many wanted Cullen as a companion. I don't dislike the character, but most of his character traits have already been explored:

Blond, boyishly good looking Templar who's shy with women? Alistair.

Brooding warrior who hates mages because all the abuse he's suffered at their hands? Fenris.

Platonic, vitriolic best buds Templar? Carver.

Sure, you could have Cullen as a Companion who distills the best of all those qualities, but at this point it just seems like window dressing to me.

From a gameplay standpoint, we already have Cassandra and/or the Grey Warden as our sword and board warrior, and possibly Iron Ox as the 2 handed damage dealer, so there's not much left for Cullen as a party member, strategy wise. I will concede that it's still possible for him to be a non-Companion romance, like Steve Cortez or Samantha Traynor.

Cassandra can change between the two types, so I would assume that most companions wouldn't be restricted to specific type of weapons like in DA2. If we can freely spec them, then the number of companions based on class wouldn't matter unless they follow the 3 3 3 formula which spread out the class evenly. They never did that. 

As for the Cullen's fascination, it depends on the person. We can basically do the same thing you did to Cullen to any character like with Cassandra. There are only so much archetype you can do in a series.

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Battlebloodmage wrote...
 If we can freely spec them, then the number of companions based on class wouldn't matter unless they follow the 3 3 3 formula which spread out the class evenly. They never did that.


They did, DA2 basic roaster was 2 2 2, and if you count Seb and the twins it's 3 3 3

9 companions is just too convenient, and it's the best for balance purposes

Modifié par Vapaä, 05 septembre 2013 - 06:39 .


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Battlebloodmage wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

Or it may mean that he's an enemy.

Would be strange for him to stand in the war room with inquisitor then. 


He eventually gets captured by Red Templars and gets turned into a hulking red lyrium golem monster.

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He is then freed from the red Templars, gets free will again, and then turns into a blue lyrium golem monster. This is when his romance sub plot starts. Enjoy!

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thats1evildude wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Would be strange for him to stand in the war room with inquisitor then. 


Assuming that IS Cullen and that this concept art is reflective of the final product ...

I just bring it up as a possibility. I myself have wondered what place Cullen could have as a companion if Cassandra is serving as a sword and shield warrior and the Iron Bull as a possible two-handed warrior.

Cassandra was shown with both sword and shield and 2-handed sword.

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Vapaä wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...
 If we can freely spec them, then the number of companions based on class wouldn't matter unless they follow the 3 3 3 formula which spread out the class evenly. They never did that.


They did, DA2 basic roaster was 2 2 2, and if you count Seb and the twins it's 3 3 3

9 companions is just too convinient, and it's the best for balance purposes

For balance purposes true, but I don't count the siblings because they don't get to use them most of the game, so it's pointless from a gameplay perspective. Without them, it's 3 rogues, 2 warriors, and 2 mages.

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Origins was 3 warriors, 2 rogues, and 2 mages. Edit: Shale was a warrior if you had her DLC, and Loghain as well, but you didn't get him till the end, so I don't think he counts.

And Iron Bull could be a rogue, not a warrior.

Modifié par Chanda, 05 septembre 2013 - 06:50 .


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Battlebloodmage wrote...

For balance purposes true, but I don't count the siblings because they don't get to use them most of the game, so it's pointless from a gameplay perspective. Without them, it's 3 rogues, 2 warriors, and 2 mages.


I don't have Sebastian, so for me it's  2 2 2, DLC characters can bend the balance, but the core team should be balanced, and it was in DA2

Modifié par Vapaä, 05 septembre 2013 - 06:44 .


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Battlebloodmage wrote...

For balance purposes true, but I don't count the siblings because they don't get to use them most of the game, so it's pointless from a gameplay perspective. Without them, it's 3 rogues, 2 warriors, and 2 mages.


But Sebastian wasn't available in Act 1, and that is by far the longest act in the game.

Maybe Cullen is using red lyrium and now counts as a mage? :blink:

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Battlebloodmage wrote...

David Gaider did say that the fans may not like the direction they're going with Cullen. It may mean that Cullen is an agent instead. I would be so disappointed...


He's going to be an indoctrinated red lyrium assclown 

Calling it now. 

Modifié par wolfhowwl, 05 septembre 2013 - 06:56 .


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Battlebloodmage wrote...

David Gaider did say that the fans may not like the direction they're going with Cullen. It may mean that Cullen is an agent instead. I would be so disappointed...


Regarding this Agent thing, it seemed to me that Agents are just groups of un-named people that are stationed somewhere in order to make something happen. That's what I got from the screenshots at PAX, anyway. Like sending 10 agents to cap a toxic gas down in a valley so that it could be safely explored. It's almost like war assets from ME3.
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Modifié par Chanda, 05 septembre 2013 - 07:04 .