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[Faerah]

I'm fairly certain the people in this picture are from left to right are: Cassandra (representing seekers), Rhys (representing circle mages), Cullen (representing sane templars), obligatory Inquisitor McStabby, Dorian (representing Tevinter), "Scribe Girl" (assistant/Samantha Traynor-like character), Varric (neutrality), and Leliana (representing the Chantry/Divine).
From what we already know or can theorize on...

Warriors:
Cassandra: Confirmed, role: keeping the inquisition on track, seeker viewpoint
Warden: Very likely, role:  grey warden, mentor
Iron Bull: (if not a rogue) Likely, role: qunari
Cullen: Least likely, role:pro-templar
Evangeline: Very unlikely, role seems to be set up as a NPC for sane templars, also a package deal with Rhys

Rogue:
Varric: Confirmed, role: neutrality
Sera: Very Likely, role: seedy undercity culture, city elf culture
Cole: Likely, role: blood mage, the weird one (like Shale or DA:A Justice)

Mage:
Vivienne: Confirmed, role: pro-circle
Dorian: Very likely, role: pro-tevinter
Rhys: Very unlikely, role seems to be set up as a NPC for mages, also a package deal with Evangeline

If we have: Cassandra, Vivienne, Sera, Warden, Iron Bull, Cullen, Varric, Cole, and Dorian
3 female: 6 male
4 warriors:3 rogues:2 mages

I think they might drop Cullen for a female character (especially considering what Gaider has hinted at about Cullen), maybe a mage to get the class ratio to 3:3:3 and the gender ratio to 4f:5m. The question is...Who might be this last female character?

Modifié par Faerah, 05 septembre 2013 - 10:56 .

[Ianamus]

Faerah wrote...

I'm fairly certain the people in this picture are from left to right are: Cassandra (representing seekers), Rhys (representing circle mages), Cullen (representing sane templars), obligatory Inquisitor McStabby, Dorian (representing Tevinter), "Scribe Girl" (assistant/Samantha Traynor-like character), Varric (neutrality), and Leliana (representing the Chantry/Divine).
From what we already know or can theorize on...

Warriors:
Cassandra: Confirmed, role: keeping the inquisition on track, seeker viewpoint
Warden: Very likely, role:  grey warden, mentor
Iron Bull: (if not a rogue) Likely, role: qunari
Cullen: Least likely, role:pro-templar
Evangeline: Very unlikely, role seems to be set up as a NPC for sane templars, also a package deal with Rhys

Rogue:
Varric: Confirmed, role: neutrality
Sera: Very Likely, role: seedy undercity culture, city elf culture
Cole: Likely, role: blood mage, the weird one (like Shale or DA:A Justice)

Mage:
Vivienne: Confirmed, role: pro-circle
Dorian: Very likely, role: pro-tevinter
Rhys: Very unlikely, role seems to be set up as a NPC for mages, also a package deal with Evangeline

If we have: Cassandra, Vivienne, Sera, Warden, Iron Bull, Cullen, Varric, Cole, and Dorian
3 female: 6 male
4 warriors:3 rogues:2 mages

I think they might drop Cullen for a female character (especially considering what Gaider has hinted at about Cullen), maybe a mage to get the class ratio to 3:3:3 and the gender ratio to 4f:5m. The question is...Who might be this last female character?

I personally think we'll have a female Dwarf warrior, because at the moment we have no-one representing the Dwarven cities, and I think at least one of them (Kal'Sharok has been hinted at) will play a large role in Inquisition. It also gives us far better gender and race ratio's: 4 female, 5 male; 3 Humans, 2 Elfs, 2 Dwarfs, 1 qunari, 1 whatever Cole counts as. This is assuming Cole is a companion though, which is the only one I am still uncertain about. 

Modifié par EJ107, 05 septembre 2013 - 11:37 .

[Faerah]

EJ107 wrote...

I personally think we'll have a female Dwarf warrior, because at the moment we have no-one representing the Dwarven cities, and I think at least one of them (Kal'Sharok has been hinted at) will play a large role in Inquisition. It also gives us far better gender and race ratio's: 4 female, 5 male; 3 Humans, 2 Elfs, 2 Dwarfs, 1 qunari, 1 whatever Cole counts as. This is assuming Cole is a companion though, which is the only one I am still uncertain about. 

Yeah that seems reasonable. For some reason Bioware really likes only giving us two mages anyways. I'm not sure about Cole either, but if any character from Asunder were a companion, I think it would be most likely him. Everyone else has other things to worry about. I hope he is or at least is a NPC that has quests that let us figure out what he is. Dat cliffhanger!

[Solas]

I really do think Cole could fit into it:

- he'd fill the "weird/different" one slot (you know, like Shale)

- he'd fill the third rogue slot (since I think it's either 3-3-3 or 4-3-2, warrior-rogue-mage)

- DGaider at one point said something about Cole being close to his heart or something to that effect

- people say stuff like 'oh no I don't want a stabby murderer' but that ignores the character arc Cole goes through in Asunder, he seems to have things more under control now (Lambert's implied death was a kill motivated primarily out of wanting revenge I'd say). Sten murdered a bunch of farmers and their children (note I LOVE Sten, don't throw vegetables) and then sort of goes on a path of redemption (of sorts) so it's nothing new really. Maybe by the time of DA:I Cole is feeling and expresses regret or something or is trying to make amends, or his in-game arc (involving the usual PC interactions and "loyalty" type side-quests) involves him having to make a choice about it, like the leaked survey hinted ("joining the living or preying on them"). It's the kind of choice PCs historically can influence the characters about - maybe a more "evil"-inclined Inquisitor would encourage him along his dark parth for instance

- people say stuff like 'I don't want a naive child-like person' but that ignores the arc he goes through again, he has his realization of what he is and with that seems to have changed/matured a fair bit

- people say stuff like his invisibility powers being OP and not being able to be translated into gameplay well without it being gamebreaking or needlessly hampered but Fenris can phase through things (which is also a near-OP ability for a fighter to have at first glance) and they implemented that just fine imo. I think that he can control his appearing and disappearing now but there could easily be something that prevents him from over-using it or doing it for too long

- the cliffhanger! his story is not finished I don't think

- the mystery! Is the entity that held the dying boy's hand in the tower a spirit of something like mercy or compassion or a demon? If it was a spirit was it warped by touching the mortal's mind like Justice? If it was a demon did it become confused and disoriented by coming into the mortal world?

- a writer or someone said in an article somewhere that the Inquisition characters or their characters in general are written to help put a face on/humanize conflicts/issues/important plot threads, e.g. Vivienne puts a face on the mage/templar war and Circle Mages. Given the breach in the Veil, demons coming through (obviously important plot threads in DA:I), and things teased at by Merril on the nature of spirits & demons.. I think Cole's nature (probably originally a Fade entity of some description) makes him well-placed to put a face on that side of things. The question is what does the breach in the Veil mean for Cole? He was killing at least in part because he felt that if he didn't he would fade away (back to the Fade or...?). Now the two worlds are touching in a way they haven't before

- The importance of Asunder the book in setting up for DA:I - is self-explanatory really. Alongside the comment Chris Bane made at Pax that a character from Asunder will be in the game as a companion or in the game in general you know like as an NPC or something (I still haven't worked out which one it is, the two sources I've seen conflict with each other), well... I think it's "companion", really, since I'd expect to see more than one of the Asunder characters "in the game in general" anyway given that several are set up as important figures in the mage/templar conflicts e.g. Rhys, Eve. If he did say "companion" I think Cole is the most likely for reasons other people have outlined before

Modifié par Carbon-based, 05 septembre 2013 - 12:29 .

[Faerah]

Carbon-based wrote...

I really do think Cole could fit into it:

- he'd fill the "weird/different" one slot (you know, like Shale)

- he'd fill the third rogue slot (since I think it's either 3-3-3 or 4-3-2, warrior-rogue-mage)

- DGaider at one point said something about Cole being close to his heart or something to that effect

- people say stuff like 'oh no I don't want a stabby murderer' but that ignores the character arc Cole goes through in Asunder, he seems to have things more under control now (Lambert's implied death was a kill motivated primarily out of wanting revenge I'd say). Sten murdered a bunch of farmers and their children (note I LOVE Sten, don't throw vegetables) and then sort of goes on a path of redemption (of sorts) so it's nothing new really. Maybe by the time of DA:I Cole is feeling and expresses regret or something or is trying to make amends, or his in-game arc (involving the usual PC interactions and "loyalty" type side-quests) involves him having to make a choice about it, like the leaked survey hinted ("joining the living or preying on them"). It's the kind of choice PCs historically can influence the characters about - maybe a more "evil"-inclined Inquisitor would encourage him along his dark parth for instance

- people say stuff like 'I don't want a naive child-like person' but that ignores the arc he goes through again, he has his realization of what he is and with that seems to have changed/matured a fair bit

- people say stuff like his invisibility powers being OP and not being able to be translated into gameplay well without it being gamebreaking or needlessly hampered but Fenris can phase through things (which is also a near-OP ability for a fighter to have at first glance) and they implemented that just fine imo. I think that he can control his appearing and disappearing now but there could easily be something that prevents him from over-using it or doing it for too long

- the cliffhanger! his story is not finished I don't think

- the mystery! Is the entity that held the dying boy's hand in the tower a spirit of something like mercy or compassion or a demon? If it was a spirit was it warped by touching the mortal's mind like Justice? If it was a demon did it become confused and disoriented by coming into the mortal world?

- a writer or someone said in an article somewhere that the Inquisition characters or their characters in general are written to help put a face on/humanize conflicts/issues/important plot threads, e.g. Vivienne puts a face on the mage/templar war and Circle Mages. Given the breach in the Veil, demons coming through (obviously important plot threads in DA:I), and things teased at by Merril on the nature of spirits & demons.. I think Cole's nature (probably originally a Fade entity of some description) makes him well-placed to put a face on that side of things. The question is what does the breach in the Veil mean for Cole? He was killing at least in part because he felt that if he didn't he would fade away (back to the Fade or...?). Now the two worlds are touching in a way they haven't before

- The importance of Asunder the book in setting up for DA:I - is self-explanatory really. Alongside the comment Chris Bane made at Pax that a character from Asunder will be in the game as a companion or in the game in general you know like as an NPC or something (I still haven't worked out which one it is, the two sources I've seen conflict with each other), well... I think it's "companion", really, since I'd expect to see more than one of the Asunder characters "in the game in general" anyway given that several are set up as important figures in the mage/templar conflicts e.g. Rhys, Eve). If he did say "companion" I think Cole is the most likely for reasons other people have outlined before

Agree. He's a very interesting character. And depending on what he is or how he works, he might be able to help with the whole tranquil cure thing...

[Eyerock]

If the grizzly warden is indead a companion, I dare say Cullen shouldn't be one. With Cass, Bull, and Warden we already have three warriors (four if you count Quizzie) so another one would be redundant.

I'm more hopeful of dramatic hands (Dorian?) being the ninth. Someone needs to represent fabulous facial hair in these games.

[Solas]

Faerah wrote...

Agree. He's a very interesting character. And depending on what he is or how he works, he might be able to help with the whole tranquil cure thing...

OHHHH hmmm interesting!!
now that is a speculation about Cole I haven't thought of before, and I speculate a lot about Cole.
interesting indeed I could get behind that idea.

I think baldy elf is more likely to be Dorian or what-that-concept-became than Dramatic Hands..

Modifié par Carbon-based, 05 septembre 2013 - 12:51 .

[Battlebloodmage]

Eyerock wrote...

If the grizzly warden is indead a companion, I dare say Cullen shouldn't be one. With Cass, Bull, and Warden we already have three warriors (four if you count Quizzie) so another one would be redundant.

I'm more hopeful of dramatic hands (Dorian?) being the ninth. Someone needs to represent fabulous facial hair in these games.

I think the matter of should or should is long back since they have already decided on the companions. The question is whether those people are companions. When we look at DAO, they have tons of warriors: Alistair, Arishok, dog, Shale, Oghren. yes, Shale and Dog are warrior, they fit the build, dog even has warrior skill in DLC. We don't have how they will distribute the numbers this time around. I don't think they will be even, so we may have 4 warriors, 2 mages, and 3 rogues would be my guess. I'm not arguing about Cullen though since I don't want to get my hopes up, and David Gaider hinted that he may not be a companion. I'm just saying that I don't think we should go by even distribution by class. One class may get more or less companion than the others.

[Chanda]

Unless you want to factor in that latest leak from (I think) the Witcher forums, which mentions Golden Keys, Purple Crows and (not quite sure on this last name) Iron Fists. I think Purple Crows, if it did exist, has changed to Owls because on the map markers, you see Owls, not Crows, and there's already the Antivan Crows, that's just too many Crows. Apparently they want you to talk to the Dalish or Elf ambassador for help with your Inquisition (could be Chill McSmugson, maybe?) But who knows, that could be something that someone made up from analyzing screenshots or whatever.

[Solas]

Is that the "new mass shift" that the people in the red templar thread are talking about? Do you have a link by any chance where I can read more?

[Chanda]

Carbon-based wrote...

Is that the "new mass shift" that the people in the red templar thread are talking about? Do you have a link by any chance where I can read more?

I have no idea, I haven't heard of a "new mass shift". And I saw the leak in one of the threads a few days ago, it's probably gone, now. I didn't put very much stock into it because there was no confirmation of where it really came from.

[Ollys]

That "new mass shift" was of 4chan couple day ago.
Basically its say leader of red templars want to enter black city and bacame god. he tearing Vail apart (reason of demon invasion) and somehow provoking war between Orlais and Ferelden. He is game final boss.

[Mr.House]

Ollys wrote...

That "new mass shift" was of 4chan couple day ago.
Basically its say leader of red templars want to enter black city and bacame god. he tearing Vail apart (reason of demon invasion) and somehow provoking war between Orlais and Ferelden. He is game final boss.

Ugh I hope that's just 4chan trolling.........

[The Elder King]

Congratulations to all you guys talking about the leak without advising people that your posts about spoilers. I've read it, so I don't care, but if it turns out to be true, people would be pissed that you spoiled the game.

[agonis]

Yeah the leak on 4chan sounds quite uninspiring. But then again everything would if reduced to a 20 word summary. And good stories are often similar. It´s not a bad thing. One can not reinvent the wheel everytime. But better not talk about leaks to much, otherwise we will get multicoloured endings...

...

Found this summary again:

"The Iron Bull: The Iron Bull is a long way from home, and prefers it taht way. A slap in the face of typically humorless Qunari, he loves drinking, killing, and looting-not necessarily in that order. The head of a vicious mercenary company, he’s known for excellent pay and brutal punishment. It’s been a ten year party, but the Bull may find that old loyalties die hard."

Sounds like a fun guy. Hope he is more than a NPC. Would be intersting to talk to him with a Qunari Inquisitor...

[The Elder King]

Mr.House wrote...
Ugh I hope that's just 4chan trolling.........

To be fair, the leak is just a screenshots of the 4chan post, posted in TW forum (there's no direct link to the leak)  and it's supposed to be from February and May, and yet nobody knew it until after the PAX demo, where they shown some of the things of the leak (but apart of the RT, the things in the leak that were present in the demo had completely different functions).

It could still be true, so we have to wait to have some info about the plot.

Modifié par hhh89, 05 septembre 2013 - 01:54 .

[agonis]

hhh89 wrote...

To be fair, the leak is just a screenshots of the 4chan post, posted in TW forum (there's no direct link to the leak)  and it's supposed to be from February and May, and yet nobody knew it until after the PAX demo, where they shown some of the things of the leak (but apart of the RT, the things in the leak that were present in the demo had completely different functions).

It could still be true, so we have to wait to have some info about the plot.

Yeah, but you are still right even if it´s most likely a fake. We should be careful about story leaks and not spoil things for others.

[Spectre slayer]

Chanda wrote...

Carbon-based wrote...

Yeah the guy with the hood in the picture I linked I think is the Inquisitor, Baldy McSmugs is the bald/semi-bald mage-looking elf that we've seen in some concept art pictures.

Ah, alright. We're on the same page, then.

Bald elf has been seen many times including the deep roads image.


http://25.media.tumb...rrleuo1_500.jpg
Bald elf is the one in the back right.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 05 septembre 2013 - 02:55 .

[azarhal]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

When we look at DAO, they have tons of warriors: Alistair, Arishok, dog, Shale, Oghren. yes, Shale and Dog are warrior, they fit the build, dog even has warrior skill in DLC. We don't have how they will distribute the numbers this time around. I don't think they will be even, so we may have 4 warriors, 2 mages, and 3 rogues would be my guess. I'm not arguing about Cullen though since I don't want to get my hopes up, and David Gaider hinted that he may not be a companion. I'm just saying that I don't think we should go by even distribution by class. One class may get more or less companion than the others.

BioWare said that having that many Warriors in DAO was a mistake, don't expect another class overload like it.

DA2 was even in classes distribution (including twins/Seb) and gender (5/4, can't be totally even with two genders and 9 companions) and I expect DAI to be similar. We get 9 companions, so people should be expecting a 3/3/3 class distribution and a 5/4 gender ratio. Although, I suspect a 4/4 gender ratio with one of the companion not being "humanoid", because a dev said a while back on twitter that one of the companion would be a challenge to cosplay (it was in a Sprint Day Review, I don't remember which one).

[ElitePinecone]

Yeah, in that fortress concept art the elf looks like Baldy McSmugs and the dwarf is the Inquisitor.

It's actually kinda amusing how the constant shifts in the Inquisitor's race/gender/appearance/class in concept art means it's often easy to confuse them with NPCs or companions.

It really makes me appreciate why they're doing it though, mixing up the Inquisitor all the time is a great reminder that the character *can* be so protean, and isn't confined to a bland default or marketing model.

[Friera]

Spectre slayer wrote...

Chanda wrote...

Carbon-based wrote...

Yeah the guy with the hood in the picture I linked I think is the Inquisitor, Baldy McSmugs is the bald/semi-bald mage-looking elf that we've seen in some concept art pictures.

Ah, alright. We're on the same page, then.

Bald elf has been seen many times including the deep roads image.


http://25.media.tumb...rrleuo1_500.jpg
Bald elf is the one in the back right.

Ooh interesting. He has such a smug face (which I get is why he´s is called McSmug. BW must have a laugh, haha!)

Wish he had hair, though... I thought on the table slam picture he had some kind of mohawk with a ponytail?
And while we are at it; make him romanceable.

Modifié par Friera, 05 septembre 2013 - 03:13 .

[Reznore57]

I also think we can see moustache guy with the female qunisitor in one of the pic ,the one with the statue and a bit of fog.



And in the chains concept art ;



This guy is just intriguing , it's the mustache thing.

[ElitePinecone]

Reznore57 wrote...

I also think we can see moustache guy with the female qunisitor in one of the pic ,the one with the statue and a bit of fog.

Do you have a larger version of this? It looks vaguely like Rivain from The World of Thedas:



It's interesting that Moustache Guy is with the party in the chains image, that would seem to make it more likely that he's a companion after all.

No idea who that is, unless it's Dorian - which would make McSmugs someone else entirely.

[agonis]

What is the "Chain concept art"?
...The picture above is the one with the female Qunarin inquisitor. It can be found on Matt Rhodes page.

[NM_Che56]

10 or I'll cancel my pre-order!

J/K.

That's pretty big! I have a feeling that this game will steal my life.