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Janus198 wrote...

For me is Cullen in the Game as companion because i don´t think that the Grey Warden is romance option. Therefore the game need a human male romance. And could be Cullen.
A big disappointment would be if the game hadn´t a templar companion. Sure a Seeker is nice but not same as a real Templar.

And by the way why is this Dalish Archer/Dagger girl not more possible?

Sera is almost surely in game, since we saw her in the combat GI video. She's the blond elf that compares in one concept art along with Cassandra, the bearded Warden and the Inquisitor.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Mr Fixit wrote...

I'd say the biggest obstacle to Cullen being a companion would be the number of human warriors. Do you really think that all the warriors in the game will be human (if 3) or 75% (if 4 warriors)?

I doubt it.

IMHO, thinking like that is a horrible way to design story/characters. Quotas. Frak quotas.

[Former_Fiend]

A thought occurs to me; have we ruled out that certain companions may be mutually exclusive?

[Janus198]

hhh89 wrote...
Sera is almost surely in game, since we saw her in the combat GI video.

Sorry but that could be everybody. Also the Grey Warden and this female had in the video the same size.

She's the blond elf that compares in one concept art along with Cassandra, the bearded Warden and the Inquisitor.

In one art. I saw more art pics from the dalish girl. For example the one with Iron Bull and the Inquistior.

And why has nobody a former Origins companion in his or her list?

Modifié par Janus198, 06 septembre 2013 - 09:38 .

[Mentxi]

As much as I like Cullen, the Iron Bull seems more interesting and I don't love the idea of having four warriors. There must be another female companion, I can't believe we only get three (two confirmed). Maybe Shale (as a rogue)? Rhys (from Asunder)? Maevaris( I know it's not possible but I really like her)?

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Former_Fiend wrote...

A thought occurs to me; have we ruled out that certain companions may be mutually exclusive?

Not ruled out; but at the moment I doubt it's going to happen.

[Former_Fiend]

hhh89 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

A thought occurs to me; have we ruled out that certain companions may be mutually exclusive?

Not ruled out; but at the moment I doubt it's going to happen.

Any particular reason? Virtually every Bioware game has mutually exclusive party members; I don't see any particular reason to think they'll subvert that this time.

[The Elder King]

@Janus: unless you think that there'll be two rogue female elves, sure.
Regardless, it was never stated that the elf with the Black hair was dalish, and she didn't have the tatoo. Plus, the concept with the Inquisitor and Iron Bull, the one where they march to the keep with all the soldier that were saluting the inquisitor,was shown in the PAX (and Matt Rhodes posted in his blog and tumblr) in an updated art, without the elf and the IB. That because they might have changed their aspect (IB is definitely different, since in the art you mentioned he had shorter horns and the Inquisition robes. Plus, in the art of the blond elf in the tavern, Gaider said in his blog that the concept captures the character's personalies perfectly. While this doesn't mean that the elf appearance is definitive, it seems likely to me.
Either way, Sera is almost surely a companion, regardless if she has blond hair or black hair.

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Former_Fiend wrote...

Any particular reason? Virtually every Bioware game has mutually exclusive party members; I don't see any particular reason to think they'll subvert that this time.

Just my feelings based on how they talked about them in the site.
I wouldn't mind if there are mutually esclusive companions, as long I have freedom in deciding the companion and not be forced by my class/race.

[Janus198]

hhh89 wrote...
@Janus: unless you think that there'll be two rogue female elves, sure.

No that´s very unlikely.

Either way, Sera is almost surely a companion, regardless if she has blond hair or black hair.

Then i hope that she has black hair. I really like the concept arts with her black hair.

[Oloos]

A fun thought just came to my mind.

What if "The Iron Bull" was, in the end, our good ol' Sten from Origins (who grew some horns ) ?

We know that Sten is not really a name but a title / job he had. With his time with the Warden, all the new things he learned may have him choose to become an outcast and then choose himself another name / nickname.

Could be nice to have a returning compagnion from Origins, and Sten was a very cool follower by the time...

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I like both concept. As long as her personality is the same of the one hinted in the concept art of the tavern (likely, given Gaider's post), I'll be happy.

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@Oloos: Sten is confirmed in one of the comics (after the introduction of the horns for the majority of the qunari) as hornless, and the Iron Bull is probably not a member of the Qun. It's highly unlikely that he's our Sten.

[Former_Fiend]

Oloos wrote...

A fun thought just came to my mind.

What if "The Iron Bull" was, in the end, our good ol' Sten from Origins (who grew some horns ) ?

We know that Sten is not really a name but a title / job he had. With his time with the Warden, all the new things he learned may have him choose to become an outcast and then choose himself another name / nickname.

Could be nice to have a returning compagnion from Origins, and Sten was a very cool follower by the time...

Because Sten's busy being Arishok.

Also, this is just me, but I'd personally like to keep returning companions to a minimum. I like to think of the Origins' gang as being the Warden's companions. Let the Inquisitor get his own group.

[Janus198]

Oloos wrote...
Could be nice to have a returning compagnion from Origins, and Sten was a very cool follower by the time...

Yes that would be nice but in most of my saves he would be busy as the new Arishok.

And you have a point. At least one Origins companion will make a return. Shale as female dwarf would be cool.
But the highest chance has Leliana.

[Vapaa]

Janus198 wrote...

For me is Cullen in the Game as companion because i don´t think that the Grey Warden is romance option. Therefore the game need a human male romance. And could be Cullen.A big disappointment would be if the game hadn´t a templar companion. Sure a Seeker is nice but not same as a real Templar.

Yeah, that's a valid point

hhh89 wrote...

About the diversity, it's not something I particulary care, since we had tons of content about the Wardens in the main games, expansion and the dlc, and we had two Warden companions. While the bearded Warden seems interesting, I'm indifferent about his role as companion, as I am to towards Cullen.

I care a lot about diversity and DAO's warrior festival annoyed me quite a lot (since I ripped the guts of that elf assissin and only completed the Circle arc after the other...thank god I recruited Leliana)

As for the Grey wardens, we don't see that much about them as an organisation in DAO, nor DAA...and we barely see them in DA2, while we run across a Templar at every street corner in DAO, DA2, and likely DAI

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

IMHO, thinking like that is a horrible way to design story/characters. Quotas. Frak quotas.

From a story standpoint,yes, but here we're taking about companions that have an impact on the gameplay, and a balanced gameplay is foundamental in that area

Besides, we'll have important NPC that don't fall on the quota requirement

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Another thing that might prevent the return of DAO companions as companions is that (some depending on your choices) they might be big shots in Thedas. Only Oghren (and he theorically might, since he could became the WC of Ferelden in theory, and so the arle of Amaranthine) and Shale don't have this fate.

[Wulfram]

3 human warriors would be fine, if they were distinct. But Cullen and Cassandra seem to cover a lot of the same ground.

[Oloos]

Ah... Blasted... I forgot about the Arishok thingy...

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Vapaä: with diversity I was referring to the warrior companions you mentioned in your examples, not the balance between rogue, mage and warrior companions. I didn't talk about having 4 warriors in DAI.
About the Warden, DAO and DAA's plots are about the Wardens, we saw glimpse of them in DA2, and Legacy has a lot of Warden content. And I didn't say we shouldn't see the Wardens, or not have a major NPC that would talk about them. We still wouldn't see much about the Warden as an organization even if we have one as a companion.
My point is that for me Cullen or the Warden will probably give the same amount of interest.

[Former_Fiend]

Something Janus said got me thinking. I don't think we should be necessarily associating spots on the party with LI's. Least not until they rule out npc LI's. Was a decent concept in ME3 with Cortez and Traynor. Not perfectly implemented, but that's no reason to abandon it instead of working out the kinks.

I mean, how often did romance actually come into play out on the road during an adventure? It always played out back at camp or back at the estate afterwards.

[Vapaa]

[quote]hhh89 wrote...

Vapaä: with diversity I was referring to the warrior com[/quote]panions you mentioned in your examples, not the balance between rogue, mage and warrior companions.[/quote]

I also care about this, in DAO you had a Qunari, an almost Templar, a cliché dwarf a war dog and a Sentient golem, and in DA you had a Orlesian guard captain and a former Tevinter slave

All these different backgrounds and culture add a great variety of characters, where Cassandra and Cullen are most more alike (they're not the same, but alike)
It's like having two circle mages, it's wasted potential

[quote]hhh89 wrote...

About the Warden, DAO and DAA's plots are about the Wardens[/quote]

But not about Wardens as an organization, your Warden end up being the only Warden with a couple of sidekicks not very interested in the whole Warden thing

[quote]hhh89 wrote...

We still wouldn't see much about the Warden as an organization even if we have one as a companion.[/quote]

Of course, just a companion is not enough, but since they teased that the Wardens are up to something, having one with you adds an other pov in what will likely be a side arc (or even an imortant one)

[Former_Fiend]

I wouldn't call Oghren a cliche dwarf. I'd call him a deconstruction of a cliche dwarf.

Still my second favorite companion after Sten.

[Vapaa]

Former_Fiend wrote...

I wouldn't call Oghren a cliche dwarf. I'd call him a deconstruction of a cliche dwarf.

I am a fan of a satirical fantasy audio show, and one the characters is a dwarf...THEY'RE THE SAME ! smelly, vulgar, drunk, annoying axe-loving brutes, the thing is that dwarf was the embodiement of dwarf clichés played for laughs, Oghren isn't.

[Former_Fiend]

Oghren's the cliche dwarf who's a cliche dwarf because his life sucks. Or his life sucks because he's a cliche dwarf.