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[Vapaa]

At first it seems that the game will subvert the dwarf cliché but ultimately plays it straight

Anyway, we're going a bit off-topic here

[Lotion Soronarr]

Cullen FTW.
Simply because a templar companion is long overdue, after we've been force-fed mages by buttloads.

Not that I'm holding my breath or anything.

[Former_Fiend]

I suspect Iron Bull is going to be someone who's initially antagonistic to the player but can either be recruited or killed fairly early on.

[Battlebloodmage]

Former_Fiend wrote...

I suspect Iron Bull is going to be someone who's initially antagonistic to the player but can either be recruited or killed fairly early on.

I'm not a fan of Iron Bull based on the description in the survey. He seems like the usual mustache twirling villain who kills people indiscriminately. I'm actually welcoming a evil character as DA2 companions are all too "nice" (Yes, even Anders). I just hope they add more dept to his character. 

[azarhal]

Former_Fiend wrote...

I suspect Iron Bull is going to be someone who's initially antagonistic to the player but can either be recruited or killed fairly early on.

I'm still unsure if Iron Bull is a companion. All the other companions (Cassandra, Varric, Vivienne, ArcherElfGirl and BearderGreyWarden) have been shown together in both game and concept arts. Iron Bull is always shown alone.

The only place where you see a Qunari with other people is in "DA2" concept arts. I say DA2, because  you can see a version of that Qunari in the DA2 collector game guide (with the Seeker armor).

[Battlebloodmage]

azarhal wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

I suspect Iron Bull is going to be someone who's initially antagonistic to the player but can either be recruited or killed fairly early on.

I'm still unsure if Iron Bull is a companion. All the other companions (Cassandra, Varric, Vivienne, ArcherElfGirl and BearderGreyWarden) have been shown together in both game and concept arts. Iron Bull is always shown alone.

The only place where you see a Qunari with other people is in "DA2" concept arts. I say DA2, because  you can see a version of that Qunari in the DA2 collector game guide (with the Seeker armor).

I don't want Iron Bull to be a companion based on the survey but just because someone's being shown in the game doesn't mean that they're companions though. They could just be agents or NPC, unless they were shown in combat. 

[Former_Fiend]

@ Battlebloodmage; His description is part of why I like him. That and just being a qunari. He sounds like a hard drinking, hard fighting guy who doesn't have too much of an over all stake in the conflict. So he's at once a boisterous badass and a down to earth kind of guy who's going to give us a more level headed opinion than other companions who have ties to high-ideal factions. That's my take on him, anyway- whether he turns out any thing like that, who knows. Hard to tell from a short paragraph.

@azarhal: I can see where you're coming from on that- though DA2 didn't have a qunari companion(not counting Tallis), so them standing together with the group in the concept art doesn't mean a lot.

But Iron Bull is, in my opinion, at once too important and too unimportant not to be a companion. What I mean by that is he's very prominent in the promotional material, but nothing we know about him suggests he's a major player in the world at all. He's apparently just the leader of a small merc band. Being a companion is the only role I can see for him that justifies him being as prominently featured as he has been.

That he's alone in the images is part of what leads me to believe he's going to be an initially antagonistic force, like Zeveran, who you can choose to recruit or dispose of.

[ElitePinecone]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

I suspect Iron Bull is going to be someone who's initially antagonistic to the player but can either be recruited or killed fairly early on.

I'm not a fan of Iron Bull based on the description in the survey. He seems like the usual mustache twirling villain who kills people indiscriminately. I'm actually welcoming a evil character as DA2 companions are all too "nice" (Yes, even Anders). I just hope they add more dept to his character. 

I basically saw him as a qunari Wrex.

Not evil, just a mercenary with few morals or scruples. Affable, even likeable, if you gained his respect.

[azarhal]

Former_Fiend wrote...

@azarhal: I can see where you're coming from on that- though DA2 didn't have a qunari companion(not counting Tallis), so them standing together with the group in the concept art doesn't mean a lot.

DA2 used to have a qunari companion, but he never moved past the conceptual stage. Same goes for "Sera". Both can be seen in the Making Of DA2 video.

Former_Fiend wrote...But Iron Bull is, in my opinion, at once too important and too unimportant not to be a companion. What I mean by that is he's very prominent in the promotional material, but nothing we know about him suggests he's a major player in the world at all. He's apparently just the leader of a small merc band. Being a companion is the only role I can see for him that justifies him being as prominently featured as he has been.

That he's alone in the images is part of what leads me to believe he's going to be an initially antagonistic force, like Zeveran, who you can choose to recruit or dispose of.

I think he's just going to be an antogonistic force personally. Someone hired by the "big bad" to slow the Inquisition down. I don't see the point of having a Zeveran-redux...

Modifié par azarhal, 06 septembre 2013 - 01:45 .

[Former_Fiend]

Well, we'll agree to disagree on it.

I'm gonna hold out hope, though. If I'm reading him right, he's exactly the kind of guy I want on my team. He's big, he's ugly, he's gruff, he's grizzled, boisterous and badass. He looks like the kind of guy who gets right into the meat of it and smashes and slashes his way through, laughing while he does it.He doesn't look damaged or broody, doesn't seem to have all that much baggage.

Really, after having to put up with Avaline, Carver, and Fenris as the warriors in the last game, Iron Bull would be a breath of fresh air.

[Former_Fiend]

Out of those options I'm seeing rogue majority being the most likely.

I wouldn't mind 3/3/3 but I'm still not seeing them making a full mage party possible.

[The Elder King]

I think that in the panel Bioware said that there'll be a qunari companion, but I'm not sure.

[Vapaa]

azarhal wrote...

DA2 used to have a qunari companion, but he never moved past the conceptual stage. Same goes for "Sera". Both can be seen in the Making Of DA2 video.

"Sera" can be seen in some alpha gameplay footage

[ElitePinecone]

Vapaä wrote...

azarhal wrote...

DA2 used to have a qunari companion, but he never moved past the conceptual stage. Same goes for "Sera". Both can be seen in the Making Of DA2 video.

"Sera" can be seen in some alpha gameplay footage

Do you have a link or source? I find that unlikely. 

[Vapaa]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Do you have a link or source? I find that unlikely. 

www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/08/16/combat-of-dragon-age-inquisition.aspx

at 1:17, I'm sure you've already seen this

Modifié par Vapaä, 06 septembre 2013 - 02:45 .

[Deadmuskrat]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Vapaä wrote...

azarhal wrote...

DA2 used to have a qunari companion, but he never moved past the conceptual stage. Same goes for "Sera". Both can be seen in the Making Of DA2 video.

"Sera" can be seen in some alpha gameplay footage

Do you have a link or source? I find that unlikely. 

she and the warden can be seen in one if the game informer videos. I would link but I'm on a phone

[wright1978]

Former_Fiend wrote...

Something Janus said got me thinking. I don't think we should be necessarily associating spots on the party with LI's. Least not until they rule out npc LI's. Was a decent concept in ME3 with Cortez and Traynor. Not perfectly implemented, but that's no reason to abandon it instead of working out the kinks.

I mean, how often did romance actually come into play out on the road during an adventure? It always played out back at camp or back at the estate afterwards.

Part of the thing with LI which i'm pretty sure they've mentioned is that because it is optional content that isn't going to get huge investment, the process of having the LI with & the connection building through the adventure is an inherent part of the process. So no i certainly wouldn't want non companion LI's, the only reason i can see why Cortez/Traynor happened is that it was a means of incorporating Same sex LI's that hadn't been part of the trilogy up to that point.

[Magdalena11]

I was initially turned off completely by the concept of Sera. The last thing I want is a bratty elf annoying me. I'm starting to think that she might be written more along the lines of Sigrun. There's no basis for my change in expectation - I'm just projecting my wishes on a companion that will be intolerable if the leaked survey is to be believed. Alistair and Morrigan were both rewritten and I liked the result. I'm thinking that the reason the leaked survey was denounced was that some of the leaked companions were changed. At least I'm hoping that's the case.

Iron Bull doesn't look bad. There are situations where the skilled application of destructive force is entirely appropriate. I'm more interested in what the companions contribute in terms of skills and abilities than personality and having said this I will have much less trouble appreciating a straightforward thug than a bratty (which to me means shallow as well) woman-child with a chip on her shoulder. There's a good possibility I'll play a rogue myself and if she's too annoying I'll leave her home.

[wright1978]

Jumbocactus wrote...

As much as I like Cullen, the Iron Bull seems more interesting and I don't love the idea of having four warriors. There must be another female companion, I can't believe we only get three (two confirmed). Maybe Shale (as a rogue)? Rhys (from Asunder)? Maevaris( I know it's not possible but I really like her)?

Yeah i'd prefer'  3 warriors & like you say i can't see there only being 3 female companions of 9. There must be a another rogue or female mage to be unveiled.

[Magdalena11]

wright1978 wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...

Something Janus said got me thinking. I don't think we should be necessarily associating spots on the party with LI's. Least not until they rule out npc LI's. Was a decent concept in ME3 with Cortez and Traynor. Not perfectly implemented, but that's no reason to abandon it instead of working out the kinks.

I mean, how often did romance actually come into play out on the road during an adventure? It always played out back at camp or back at the estate afterwards.

Part of the thing with LI which i'm pretty sure they've mentioned is that because it is optional content that isn't going to get huge investment, the process of having the LI with & the connection building through the adventure is an inherent part of the process. So no i certainly wouldn't want non companion LI's, the only reason i can see why Cortez/Traynor happened is that it was a means of incorporating Same sex LI's that hadn't been part of the trilogy up to that point.

I don't play ME so Cortez/Traynor don't mean anything to me but I can say that if I'm going to be in a game romance, I'll want to hang out with my intended and talk to him as much as possible.  If he were to be someone I only saw in my keep I'd probably just lose interest eventually.  It was great fun in DAO (and to a lesser extent, DA2) to listen to the party banters associated with the Warden/Hawke's romance.  There's nothing like hearing a well-bred English voice saying, "I'm right here, you know."

[Solas]

duckley wrote...

Interestingly, Bioware in taking this extra year plus, is including lots of elements that fans have been lobbying for (eg non-human pc). I am not sre how big the Cullen lobby is, but I will be annoyed if he is not a companion. Most of what Bioware is adding is of less interest to me... could care less about Qunari or non-humam protoganists for example. It is just a matter of preference I suppose but Cullen's character fascinates me.

"if BioWare don't do the specific thing that I want I will be annoyed"
lol

Chanda wrote...

A mage that died in the circle dungeon and came back as a demon rogue. He still screams DLC character to me.

I don't think we know if he's a spirit, demon or other Fade entity tbh.

I'd rather have Iron Bull/that qunari as a warrior than Cullen..

[Battlebloodmage]

Carbon-based wrote...

duckley wrote...

Interestingly, Bioware in taking this extra year plus, is including lots of elements that fans have been lobbying for (eg non-human pc). I am not sre how big the Cullen lobby is, but I will be annoyed if he is not a companion. Most of what Bioware is adding is of less interest to me... could care less about Qunari or non-humam protoganists for example. It is just a matter of preference I suppose but Cullen's character fascinates me.

"if BioWare don't do the specific thing that I want I will be annoyed"
lol

Chanda wrote...

A mage that died in the circle dungeon and came back as a demon rogue. He still screams DLC character to me.

I don't think we know if he's a spirit, demon or other Fade entity tbh.

I'd rather have Iron Bull/that qunari as a warrior than Cullen..

Why can't we have both? There has always been a DLC character. They could potentially have either Cullen or Iron Bull as the tenth character.  

[ElitePinecone]

Vapaä wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Do you have a link or source? I find that unlikely. 

www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/08/16/combat-of-dragon-age-inquisition.aspx

at 1:17, I'm sure you've already seen this

Oh, thought you meant Sera appeared in DA2 alpha gameplay.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Magdalena11 wrote...

I don't play ME so Cortez/Traynor don't mean anything to me but I can say that if I'm going to be in a game romance, I'll want to hang out with my intended and talk to him as much as possible.  If he were to be someone I only saw in my keep I'd probably just lose interest eventually.  It was great fun in DAO (and to a lesser extent, DA2) to listen to the party banters associated with the Warden/Hawke's romance.  There's nothing like hearing a well-bred English voice saying, "I'm right here, you know."

I happened to like Cortez and Traynor a lot and felt that they would have been ample LIs if not for the fact that they were in the last game of the trilogy.   There were very few instances that the squadmate LIs got special dialogue while they were fighting alongside Shepard, and Shepard certainly could not interact with the LIs much outside of the Normandy.