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[Jaulen]

DA:O
(not including DLC characters)
3F 4M
2 mages
3 warriors
2 rogues

Females
Morrigan/mage (usually DPS)
Leliana/rogue archer
Wynne/mage (healer)

Males
Zevran/rogue blades
Sten/warrior 2 handed
Alistair/warrior-templar sword and shield
Oghren/warrior 2 handed


DA:2 (again, not considering DLC, or the sibling that you can lose)
3F  3M
2 of each class
Female
Aveline/warrior S&S
Isabella/rogue blades
Merril/mage DPS

Male
Varric/rogue archer
Anders/mage healer
Fenris/warrior 2 handed


So the speculative list above by Janus198 looks:
1) too heavy on males
2) too heavy on warriors


I think it will look more like this:
Female
Cassandra/ Warrior (human)
Vivienne/ Mage (human)
Sera dalish / Rogue (elf)
Unknown female (not leliana, probably a mage)

Male
Varric /Rogue archer (dwarf)
Grey Warden / Warrior (human)
Templar/ Rogue (human)
Tevinter/Mage (would be cool if it's an Elf Magister! And that's what I'm going to say based on the balance....he'll be an elf)
TalV/Warrior (Qunari)

and with Bioware history, one of them will be a DLC character (Shale, Sebastian)...and It would probably be the Qunari as the DLC character. Unless BW decides to do a 10th character and that one be the DLC character, I think that one would be a female dwarf warrior likely.

Modifié par Jaulen, 06 septembre 2013 - 08:44 .

[Dr Pepper FU2]

woah Varric's new look surprised me.

[Spectre slayer]

Jaulen wrote...

DA:O
(not including DLC characters)
3F 4M
2 mages
3 warriors
2 rogues

Females
Morrigan/mage (usually DPS)
Leliana/rogue archer
Wynne/mage (healer)

Males
Zevran/rogue blades
Sten/warrior 2 handed
Alistair/warrior-templar sword and shield
Oghren/warrior 2 handed


DA:2 (again, not considering DLC, or the sibling that you can lose)
3F  3M
2 of each class
Female
Aveline/warrior S&S
Isabella/rogue blades
Merril/mage DPS

Male
Varric/rogue archer
Anders/mage healer
Fenris/warrior 2 handed


So the speculative list above by Janus198 looks:
1) too heavy on males
2) too heavy on warriors

I agree with you since they've always been pretty balanced the previous games which is why I think it's going to be 5-4 Male female, 3 or 4 warriors, 2 or 3 rogues, 2 mages and 1 one who is of an unknown class and probably female.

[Isaidlunch]

MasterScribe wrote...

I don't think Leliana, Cullen, or Cole(?) will be companions.

I can understand Leliana and Cole but what makes you skeptical about Cullen? Is it the 4 warrior thing?

[fiveforchaos]

MasterScribe wrote...

Kazanth wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

I don't think Leliana, Cullen, or Cole(?) will be companions.

I can understand Leliana and Cole but what makes you skeptical about Cullen? Is it the 4 warrior thing?

No. I'm just hoping he isn't a companion.

I want as few returning characters as possible. Cassandra and Varric are enough.

Besides, Cullen is an incredibly bland character.

For me it's the 4 warrior thing. I was never a huge Cullen fan, but I thought it was cool that he'd developed such a huge fanbase, and I was pretty into the idea of him being a companion. Until I started doing the math and noticed that there was an overrepresentation of warriors with him on board...at which my Cullen support dropped tremendously. 

[Taleroth]

MasterScribe wrote...

Besides, Cullen is an incredibly bland character.

What if it's "EVERYONE'S AN ABOMINATION, KILL THEM ALL" Cullen?

He's my favorite.

[GloriousDame]

Confirmed:
Viviene (F, Mage)
Varric (M, Rogue)
Casandra (F, Warrior)

As good as confirmed:
Sera (F, Rogue) - Seen in gameplay vids.
Grey Warden (M, Warrior) - Seen in gameplay vids.
Bald Guy (M, Mage?) - Seen in significantly more concept art.

So far, that gives us 3 Warriors, 3 Mages, 3 Rogues, as well as 3 females and 3 males.
My (current) guess is that they'll have an even number of classes (since I think one of the devs mentioned there being a bonus if all party members are the same class), OR 1 unknown class, with a higher female ratio this time around.

I believe Iron bull would make a great DLC companion because of the huge potential he has storywise due to being a Tal-Vashoth merc. I know a lot of people don't like big recruitment quests, but this guy has a lot of potential in that department.

That being said, I sincerely hope they include Cullen, as I've said, because of his past involvement in the Ferelden and Kirkwall Circles...  He would probably have grown into an angsty or disillusioned (by both sides) character in desperate need to want to make a real difference in the chaos that has ensued.  And for anyone who thinks him bland, I hope at the very least, they bother to read this: http://houseofgriffi...oggable-by-this

Edit:
And we also have Dagna and Charade to wonder about.

Modifié par ArinTheirinCousland, 06 septembre 2013 - 10:23 .

[Tinxa]

fiveforchaos wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Kazanth wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

I don't think Leliana, Cullen, or Cole(?) will be companions.

I can understand Leliana and Cole but what makes you skeptical about Cullen? Is it the 4 warrior thing?

No. I'm just hoping he isn't a companion.

I want as few returning characters as possible. Cassandra and Varric are enough.

Besides, Cullen is an incredibly bland character.

For me it's the 4 warrior thing. I was never a huge Cullen fan, but I thought it was cool that he'd developed such a huge fanbase, and I was pretty into the idea of him being a companion. Until I started doing the math and noticed that there was an overrepresentation of warriors with him on board...at which my Cullen support dropped tremendously. 

I'm actually starting to think Cullen's chances as a companion are improving . If we consider we still need 2 romanceable male partymembers.
Varric is a dwarf, Greywarden is older, Iron bull is a qunari. Usually the LIs are goodlooking so... Cullen.

Of course the LIs could be a male rogue and mage we haven't seen yet...

[Kaiser of Hearts]

ArinTheirinCousland wrote...



Confirmed:
Viviene (F, Mage)
Varric (M, Rogue)
Casandra (F, Warrior)

As good as confirmed:
Sera (F, Rogue) - Seen in gameplay vids.
Grey Warden (M, Warrior) - Seen in gameplay vids.
Bald Guy (M, Mage?) - Seen in significantly more concept art.

So far, that gives us 3 Warriors, 3 Mages, 3 Rogues, as well as 3 females and 3 males.
My (current) guess is that they'll have an even number of classes (since I think one of the devs mentioned there being a bonus if all party members are the same class), OR 1 unknown class, with a higher female ratio this time around.

I believe Iron bull would make a great DLC companion because of the huge potential he has storywise due to being a Tal-Vashoth merc. I know a lot of people don't like big recruitment quests, but this guy has a lot of potential in that department.

That being said, I sincerely hope they include Cullen, as I've said, because of his past involvement in the Ferelden and Kirkwall Circles...  He would probably have grown into an angsty or disillusioned (by both sides) character in desperate need to want to make a real difference in the chaos that has ensued.  And for anyone who thinks him bland, I hope at the very least, they bother to read this: http://houseofgriffi...oggable-by-this

Iron Bull shouldn't be a dlc companion. If anything Cullen should be. Those that want him for whatever reason, get him. Those that don't won't. 

[GloriousDame]

Kaiser of Hearts wrote...

Iron Bull shouldn't be a dlc companion. If anything Cullen should be. Those that want him for whatever reason, get him. Those that don't won't. 

That can be said for pretty much every character.  "_____ should be a DLC character. Those that want him/her for whatever reason, get him/her.  Those that don't, won't."

As much as I liked Varric, I don't particularly want to have another adventure with him. But before his confirmation, I could just as well have said, "Varric should be a DLC character for those that want him."

I don't see how saying that Cullen should be a DLC character (which, I'm actually not opposed to) argues against what I said (the whole thing about him having value as a companion, since he has a rich story we can learn about in the previous games- much like Isabela in DAO, who moved on to be a companion in DA2).

[Mr Fixit]

I think Cullen is unlikely for several reasons:

1. Overload of HUMAN warriors. If the class spread is 3-3-3, it would mean all warriors are human.
2. Similar plot and character position to Cassandra. Both are human warriors with (former?) links to the Chantry. Both are decent people with a strong sense of duty and personal reasons to distrust mages.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

For all we know, we could also have a secret companion. I don't think they ever confirmed Loghain was a companion in DAO pre-release and it was never even hinted till you finished the landsmeet.

I actually wouldn't mind two exclusive characters. DAO had them (Alistair/Loghain), DA2 had them (Bethany/Carver and Anders/Sebastian) and maybe DAI could continue the tradition.

[Ozida]

Ehhh, with all respect to Cullen fans, I really hope he will not become a companion. If you though Anders was whining, just think of Cullen next:
“Inquisitor, we have to talk about what happened back there in the cave 5 minutes ago. You know, you helping mages and such… How could you do that?! They all are monsters that have to be kept in cages! And don’t you dare to judge me! You have no idea what I have been through! The things I saw at the Circle cannot be un-seen! In fact, I am not even sure if you are real or not. Maybe this is just a demon controlling my mind! Maybe it was all that blood magic in that cave. Arhg!..” *Attacks*.

Keran would have been a much better companion, IMHO. He is open to both sides and you could have turned him either pro-templar or pro-magic as story evolved. Which would work for any PC, being a mage or not.

[Angrywolves]

Of course Allistair and Loghain won't be secret companions in this game, if there are any such secret companions .
I hate Loghain plus he's dead in most players saves while Allistair is King of Ferelden in most players saves.
I expect Cullen to be a companion .
I don't really want him, but I expect Bioware to indulge those who want him.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Angrywolves wrote...

Of course Allistair and Loghain won't be secret companions in this game, if there are any such secret companions .
I hate Loghain plus he's dead in most players saves while Allistair is King of Ferelden in most players saves.
I expect Cullen to be a companion .
I don't really want him, but I expect Bioware to indulge those who want him.

Who said those two would be secret companions?

[Battlebloodmage]

Angrywolves wrote...

Of course Allistair and Loghain won't be secret companions in this game, if there are any such secret companions .
I hate Loghain plus he's dead in most players saves while Allistair is King of Ferelden in most players saves.
I expect Cullen to be a companion .
I don't really want him, but I expect Bioware to indulge those who want him.

Are Cullen fans blood mages that can make Bioware do whatever they want? Despite David Gaider stated many times that he would not write a character just because the fans demand it. If Cullen were in the game as companion, it would be because David wants him to, not because the fans want him to.

[Ianamus]

I know that a lot of people still believe that Cullen is a likely companion, but It seems very unlikely for me at this stage. We already have one chantry-aligned human warrior announced and another male human warrior. On top of that we have another male warrior who looks like they will be announced soon (Iron Bull).

I also believe that we'll have a Dwarf from either Kal'Sharok or Orzammar, as it seems odd to be lacking one in a game which will probably involve visiting a Dwarven city (likely Kal'Sharok). I don't think we would have two Dwarven rogues, which makes me think we'll have yet another warrior, maybe a Dwarven female.

We also always seem have at least one human of each class, so I will be surprised if we do not have a human rogue.

I don't see Cullen fitting in anywhere. The only real evidence for his inclusion as a companion is an image from the leaked survey, which also included an image of what is likely an important NPC scribe woman, and is confirmed to be inaccurate.

I don't know, It's not that I have anything against Cullen as a character. But I don't see how he fits as a party member in Inquisition, and I feel that I would rather have characters exploring things we haven't seen before like a Kal'Sharok dwarf, a Tal'Vashoth or a Tevinter magister. I don't see what sort of background or issues Cullen could raise that we haven't already seen before, as the templar/mage issue was explored to death in Dragon Age 2.

As a woman who was meant to be first enchanter but has had her life ruined by the circle collapse Vivienne offers a new persepective on the mage/templar conflict, but Cullen is a templar commander who thinks mages are too dangerous to be free, which is a character and stance we have already seen multiple times before. He also acts as a templar whose experiences have made him slightly more tolerable of mages, but this is also something we've seen explored before, most notably with Cassandra who is already a confirmed companion.

Modifié par EJ107, 06 septembre 2013 - 11:44 .

[Angrywolves]

Whatever then about Cullen .
Bioware seems to have no problem giving to the fans wishes so far.
I don't really want Cullen .
shrugs.

[berelinde]

So, EJ107, who would you name as the male LIs? The elf, the dwarf, the grizzled veteran, or the qunari? We've always had at least one human LI per gender. Nothing against Grey Warden dude, but making both LIs "exotic" due to race or age would be odder than having a class comprised of of a single race.

[Ianamus]

berelinde wrote...

So, EJ107, who would you name as the male LIs? The elf, the dwarf, the grizzled veteran, or the qunari? We've always had at least one human LI per gender. Nothing against Grey Warden dude, but making both LIs "exotic" due to race or age would be odder than having a class comprised of of a single race.

At the moment I'm thinking the male elf mage and a more "generically attractive" male human rogue, perhaps the guy wearing a hood in the Tavern and other concept art. Maybe an assasin of some description. 

Lack of male LI's definately points to an unnanounced young human male, but not necessarily Cullen. 

Modifié par EJ107, 06 septembre 2013 - 11:55 .

[Adela]

@EJ107 the guy wearing a hood in the tavern is the inquisitor

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

EJ107 wrote...
At the moment I'm thinking the male elf mage and a more "generically attractive" male human rogue, perhaps the guy wearing a hood in the Tavern and other concept art. Maybe an assasin of some description.

The hooded guy in that artwork is the inquisitor.

Edit: Beaten!

Modifié par Red by Full Metal Jacket, 06 septembre 2013 - 11:56 .