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[Former_Fiend]

fiveforchaos wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...


Iron Bull, I get. That's a bit more of a niche market.

But honestly I am not getting the doubt around the GW as a LI. Dude's got a little gray in his beard. So what? How does that make a romance with him weird?

Well for me at least it's less about age and more about the fact that he's a Grey Warden, who's a bit on the older side.

What I'm getting at here is "Oh God Bioware please not another Thane! You're games are depressing enough without our LI's dropping like flies!"

While I can see and understand this, I think the main difference is that with Thane, we knew we were gonna be playing Shepard in the next game so we were going to have to live with the fallout.

And while I've obviously nothing to back this up, at this point I think it's inevitable that the Dragon Age series is destined to have a new protagonist with each installment. With that in mind, we likely won't have to deal with the fallout of a GW romance.

And to be fair, we don't actually know how old he is nor when he became a grey warden. He could well have another ten, fifteen years before his Calling. It's not like Thane who straight up told you the first time you met him that he's going to be dead in less than a year.

[mikeymoonshine]

EJ107 wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Having 3 confirmed companions (Cassandra, Vivienne, and Varric) and assuming we have correctly guessed another 3 or 4 (Sera, Bearded Warden, Baldy, and Iron Bull), the ideal 8th and 9th companions would be a female dwarf and a female Qunari.

I think we will have a female dwarf as one of the last two, but I don't think we will also have a female Qunari. We still need a young male human to act as the second male LI, unless Varric is an LI in Inquisition which is still unlikely in my opinion, though possible. 

that's the only reason I suspect Cullun. The fangirls want him, He was in the survay and We know he is going to be in the game. 

he would make a good LI so It makes sense for him to be a companion but Who knows  

[GloriousDame]

EJ107 wrote...

ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

By other companions = Iron Bull.  Maybe.  As of right now, and until we are shown more concept art or get an announcement on companions, it all depends who you ask.

The Qunari's chances are a lot higher than Cullens at the moment though. It is important to remember that if you look past his popularity and the number of times he is mentioned on this site there is practically nothing at all indicating he will be a companion. 

You are right and to a certain degree I agree withyou, but again, it tends to be subjective (at least for now!).  And on your point on Cullen's lack of... evidence? Yeah, evidence, well, there's the Greg Ellis tweet and one of the writers mentioning that Cullen would be back in DAI (though, to add to your point, they never said anything about him being a companion).  

Whomever the companions are, it's going to suck not knowing until next year.  Too much speculation, not enough concept art and gameplay vids to hold me over!

[Faerah]

FireAndBlood wrote...

Yeah but the leaked survey mentioned Dorian a tevinter magister who wanted to make sure the rebelling mages did not turn into another version of his country, and the only concept art of a mage companion from the leaked survey matches the look of the human mage in the War Room concept art.

Also Rhys is a leading member of the mage rebellion and we already have a circle mage with Vivienne.

The artwork from the survey might not mean they are companions, and I wasn't inferring that Rhys would be a companion either. It is quite possible that Rhys and Cullen are both going to be major npcs representing the level headed mages and templars. And they are present in the war room concept art to depict your alliances as the Inquisitor. If anything should be taken serious out of the survey, it should be the written descriptions of the characters and not the art. Writing is probably a lot less changeable than artwork, especially early on in the production process.

[fiveforchaos]

ArinTheirinCousland wrote...

fiveforchaos wrote...

Former_Fiend wrote...


Iron Bull, I get. That's a bit more of a niche market.

But honestly I am not getting the doubt around the GW as a LI. Dude's got a little gray in his beard. So what? How does that make a romance with him weird?

Well for me at least it's less about age and more about the fact that he's a Grey Warden, who's a bit on the older side.

What I'm getting at here is "Oh God Bioware please not another Thane! You're games are depressing enough without our LI's dropping like flies!"

Hahaha! Honestly, I look at the Warden and as cool as he looks, all I can think of is Thane 2.0.

I honestly wouldn't mind a Thane 2.0, minus the whole LI dying thing. Dragon Age could use a few more people capable of explaining their controversial opinion in a cool, calm and logical manner. 

[azarhal]

ElitePinecone wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Either way, the same thing was said about the ME3 leak with the whole "We've changed a lot" only to turn out to be exactly like 90% of what the leak said.

Writing is (as far as I know) literally one of the first things to be finished, especially recorded dialogue. Dialogue requires getting actors' schedules to work, paying them, budgets being sorted out, etc. They can add and change text in the game pretty much whenever they want, but calling out voice actors again unexpectedly is logistically difficult and kinda a waste of money - so I guess the focus would be getting it done early and right. It might be different now for DA:I because they've had the one year delay (we know that they only decided on the extra races relatively recently) but I'd imagine that the companions were probably fairly decided upon when the marketing survey was done.

They were doing auditions and voice recording for characters back in May last year, and the survey leaked in September (maybe October?). It doesn't sound too likely that things would change significantly once they'd already settled upon actors for the companions. 

They explained this at PAX, they have actors do sample early so they can select the voice for the characters. They don't record the dialogs then and it doesn't mean they can't change voice actors or drop the character later, they said they have done it in the past for that matter.

And now with the year extension, they might have decide to drop and change even more stuff, not just dropping the backgrounds and bringing in races (which change a bunch of dialogs). They could have dropped/replaced companions or totally altered them because it fit the plot better (like they did to Varric for DA2).

[FireAndBlood]

Faerah wrote...

FireAndBlood wrote...

Yeah but the leaked survey mentioned Dorian a tevinter magister who wanted to make sure the rebelling mages did not turn into another version of his country, and the only concept art of a mage companion from the leaked survey matches the look of the human mage in the War Room concept art.

Also Rhys is a leading member of the mage rebellion and we already have a circle mage with Vivienne.

The artwork from the survey might not mean they are companions, and I wasn't inferring that Rhys would be a companion either. It is quite possible that Rhys and Cullen are both going to be major npcs representing the level headed mages and templars. And they are present in the war room concept art to depict your alliances as the Inquisitor. If anything should be taken serious out of the survey, it should be the written descriptions of the characters and not the art. Writing is probably a lot less changeable than artwork, especially early on in the production process.

Why would the survey show concept art of Rhys and a written description of Dorian and not both for each?

[Faerah]

FireAndBlood wrote...

Why would the survey show concept art of Rhys and a written description of Dorian and not both for each?

No idea, but two of the artworks are male and female inquisitor, Cullen, and "Scribe Girl", which all don't have descriptions. While on the other hand Iron Bull and Cole do not have art, but they have descriptions.

[FireAndBlood]

Faerah wrote...

FireAndBlood wrote...

Why would the survey show concept art of Rhys and a written description of Dorian and not both for each?

No idea, but two of the artworks are male and female inquisitor, Cullen, and "Scribe Girl", which all don't have descriptions. While on the other hand Iron Bull and Cole do not have art, but they have descriptions.

Fair enough, I still think that is Dorian.

Rhys would be with the rest of the mages and would serve as a counterpoint to Fiona and Adrian.

[Janus198]

Ok these companions are confirmed or likely

confirmed
1. Cassandra, Warrior, Seeker, Female Human
2. Vivienne, Mage, Circlemage, Female Human
3. Varric, Rogue, Neutral/Hawke?, Male Dwarf

likely
4. Dorian Pavus, Mage, Tevinter, Male Elf
5. Sera, Rogue, ?, Female Elf
6. Iron Bull, Warrior, Mercenary, Qunari/Tal Vashoth/Kossith Male
7. Grey Warden, Warrior, Grey Wardens, Male Human

The past games have some rules. Expect humans only 2 companions from the same
race are possible. And only female and male. And they have not same class.

Ok therefore i count two elves. 1 female and 1 male. No more elf companion is possible.
Then we have one male dwarf rogue. That means no more male dwarf and
only a female dwarf warrior is possible. And thats unlikely. Dwarf Shale sounds cool
but i don´t think that she will be in the party.
Next is a Qunari male Warrior. Therefore isn´t another male Qunari and female Qunari warrior possible.
Only a female Saarebas is likely. But i doubt that.
Last but the most interessing thing is: we have two female humans and only one male human.

So my Nr. 8 is Cullen. Because he us male human and represents the Templar Order.
And sorry we need a counterpart to Vivienne who respresents the mages.
Yes i know that he would be 4 warrior and would break the 3 Warriors 3 Rogues 3 Mages System.
But almost all of you hadn´t the DLC character in their list. With the DLC is impossible to have balanced party.
And i didn´t see him as DLC. Sorry he is a Companion.

Nr. 9 and that would be fanservice to DAO loyalists. One of Origins companions returns.
It doesn´t matter for me who it is. I don´t care. But this companion is necessary to sell this
game to the disappoint Origin Fanbase. Leliana has the best chance. She is immortal and a rogue.

Nr. 10 would be the Day 1 DLC character. I think that the Bioware Fan prefers special and unique companions (Shale/Javik) over normal ones (Zaeed/Sebastian). Therefore we need something fresh.
Like a female Saarbebas. That would be nice.
But maybe not so cool and unique than a Darkspawn Disciple Mage.

Edit: Ok Yes i don´t forget Cole. But i think he is the one who has cut form the Leak. Because i think that he
was very hard to design. Maybe this Game Cole didn´t show what we and Bioware hope for a Cole companion. 

Modifié par Janus198, 07 septembre 2013 - 04:34 .

[d-boy15]

I would like to had Cullen as companion. As people said, we already got Vivienne who seem to
be voice of reason for Mage. Now we need a voice of reason from Templar. Plus his abilities is
probably useful when player fight a spell caster.

[Wulfram]

d-boy15 wrote...

I would like to had Cullen as companion. As people said, we already got Vivienne who seem to
be voice of reason for Mage. Now we need a voice of reason from Templar. Plus his abilities is
probably useful when player fight a spell caster.

We've got Cassandra.  The Templar/Seeker distinction is kind of meaningless as far as I can see - after all, it was the Lord Seeker who more or less started the war.  You'd expect a seeker to have Templar abilities too, I'd think.

[Janus198]

d-boy15 wrote...
I would like to had Cullen as companion. As people said, we already got Vivienne who seem to
be voice of reason for Mage. Now we need a voice of reason from Templar. Plus his abilities is
probably useful when player fight a spell caster.

Plus Cassandra has likely changed.
Therefore i don´t think she would be a good and necessary counterpart to Vivienne and the mages.
We need a Templar companion for that.
In the best case that would be Cullen.

Edit: Form the GameInformer Article about Mages vs Templars.
"Both Cassandra and Varric have been confirmed as party members, but we
didn’t get to know much about Cassandra in Dragon Age II beyond her
mission. This will change in Inquisition. “To some degree, I think that
Cassandra undergoes probably the biggest transformative arc of any
character in Dragon Age II,” Laidlaw says. Cassandra has always
supported the Chantry, but after talking to Varric and seeing both sides
of the issue, her opinions may change. “In a lot of ways, I think she
represents the opportunity to grow by understanding [and not] getting
increasingly lost in the noise of Dragon Age’s rising chaos,” Laidlaw says."
See: www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/08/19/building-a-dragon-age-rivalry-mages-versus-templars.aspx

Modifié par Janus198, 07 septembre 2013 - 04:45 .

[Taleroth]

Janus198 wrote...


Plus Cassandra has likely changed.
Therefore i don´t think she would be a good and necessary counterpart to Vivienne and the mages.
We need a Templar companion for that. 
In the best case that would be Cullen.

Cassandra hasn't been detailed enough in the games for change to even be relevant. She is whatever they want her to be. 

[Angrywolves]

Since Darrah mentioned Tevinter in an interview someone from there seems almost mandatory.
You would want someone with you who knows it well. You wouldn't want to go there blind.

[FireAndBlood]

Well since everyone is doing it here are my two cents. BioWare confirmed there will be nine companions, I also believe there will be at least one DLC companion since that is the case in the past two games.

Warriors:
1. Cassandra (confirmed)
2. Grey Warden (seen in various concept art and GI video)
3. Cullen (seen in leaked survey)

Rouges:
1. Varric (confirmed)
2. Elf girl/Sera (seen in various concept art and GI video)
3. Scribe Girl (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)

Mages:
1.Vivienne (confirmed)
2.Dorian/Human Mage (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)
3. Elf Mage (seen in War Room, New Home and Cave concept art)

DLC:
Iron Bull

[Janus198]

Taleroth wrote...
Cassandra hasn't been detailed enough in the games for change to even be relevant. She is whatever they want her to be. 

Please see my Edit.

[d-boy15]

Wulfram wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

I would like to had Cullen as companion. As people said, we already got Vivienne who seem to
be voice of reason for Mage. Now we need a voice of reason from Templar. Plus his abilities is
probably useful when player fight a spell caster.

We've got Cassandra.  The Templar/Seeker distinction is kind of meaningless as far as I can see - after all, it was the Lord Seeker who more or less started the war.  You'd expect a seeker to have Templar abilities too, I'd think.

I think Cassandra special abilities might have something to do with her ancestor (dragon hunter). She also
stand netrual on Mage/Templar and bend more on Chantry side. So, I don't think she will be a good voice
for Templar side. 

Plus, her roles in party seem to be more like Aveline, a loyal companion and a voice of reason for player.

Modifié par d-boy15, 07 septembre 2013 - 04:56 .

[Janus198]

FireAndBlood wrote...
Scribe Girl (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)

Sorry but that´s very unlikely. I think she is the Kelly Chambers/Samantha Traynor for DA:I

2.Dorian/Human Mage (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)
3. Elf Mage (seen in War Room, New Home and Cave concept art)

Dorian is the Elf Mage. The Human in War Room could be a counsel or the guy for the agents system,

[azarhal]

Wulfram wrote...

d-boy15 wrote...

I would like to had Cullen as companion. As people said, we already got Vivienne who seem to
be voice of reason for Mage. Now we need a voice of reason from Templar. Plus his abilities is
probably useful when player fight a spell caster.

We've got Cassandra.  The Templar/Seeker distinction is kind of meaningless as far as I can see - after all, it was the Lord Seeker who more or less started the war.  You'd expect a seeker to have Templar abilities too, I'd think.

Seekers are mostly recruited from the Templar ranks, but they are exceptions. Lord Seeker Lambert is (was?) a former Templar for example. Saying they are super-templars is appropriate, they are supposed to be the most talented Templars and the most loyal to the Chantry. Well were, most of them joined Lambert's rebellion...

[FireAndBlood]

Janus198 wrote...

FireAndBlood wrote...
Scribe Girl (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)

Sorry but that´s very unlikely. I think she is the Kelly Chambers/Samantha Traynor for DA:I

2.Dorian/Human Mage (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)
3. Elf Mage (seen in War Room, New Home and Cave concept art)

Dorian is the Elf Mage. The Human in War Room could be a counsel or the guy for the agents system,

I thought Scribe Girl would be an NPC advisor at first but then why would she be wearing armor?

As for Dorian, the leaked survey mentions him to be a tevinter magister and I have doubts an elf can be a magister in Tevinter. I believe the elf mage is an apostate because he is wearing robes with fur ( the fur is more clearly seen in the New Home cocept art) which is similar to the robes worn by the mages in the Apostates concept art.

Modifié par FireAndBlood, 07 septembre 2013 - 05:04 .

[Oloos]

FireAndBlood wrote...

Warriors:
1. Cassandra (confirmed)
2. Grey Warden (seen in various concept art and GI video)
3. Cullen (seen in leaked survey)

Rouges:
1. Varric (confirmed)
2. Elf girl/Sera (seen in various concept art and GI video)
3. Scribe Girl (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)

Mages:
1.Vivienne (confirmed)
2.Dorian/Human Mage (seen in leaked survey and War Room concept art)
3. Elf Mage (seen in War Room, New Home and Cave concept art)

DLC:
Iron Bull

I think your good one some points but i tend to think that Iron Bull is unlikely to be dlc. At least if the Qunari we've seen in the trailers and concept arts is indeed Iron Bull. By the way, i read somewhere (but lost the source) that the devs said that the Qunari we saw in the trailer is somehow connected with the dragon of the first trailer. So i haighly doubt that this Qunari being a dlc. In fact, i even highly doubt that this Qunari is even a compagnion. Or a "hidden" compagnion flagged as main antagonist in the game like Loghain was.

So i'd go into something like :


Warriors:
1. Cassandra (confirmed)
2. Grey Warden (quite confirmed too, just no name linked)
3. a. Cullen
    b. Iron Bull (but not being the one whe've seen)
    c. someone else

Rogues:
1. Varric (confirmed)
2. Elf girl / Sera
3. a. Hooded guy in black (seen in the survey)
    b. Lelianna
    c. Cole
    d. Qunari male / female ?

Mages:
1. Vivienne (confirmed)
2. Dorian / Human guy in white with mustache
3. Bald Elf

That would be my take. The scribe girl would likely be more a mage than a rogue or warrior and there's already enough potential mages. So she's probably more of a personnal assistant for the Inquisitor than a fighting compagnion.

And for a dlc compagnion well... A dog ?

Modifié par Oloos, 07 septembre 2013 - 05:08 .

[Spectre slayer]

Confirmed
Varic Dwarven Male Rogue
Vivienne Human Female Mage
Cassandra Human Female Warrior

Most likely based on concept arts, videos, etc

Iron Bull Male Tal'Valshoth Warrior or Rogue
Sera Elven Female Rogue
Grey Warden Human Male Warrior
Bald Elven Male Mage


Take a look at Bald elf guys right hand there's a staff in it, same cclothes as the new home concept 

Cullen Human Male Templar Warrior(Maybe using him as place holder since it makes sense)

Female Rogue or Warrior

5:4 Male to Female
3 Warriors, 2 Rogues, 2 Mages, if Iron Bull is Warrior then female character is Rogue, if she is an Warrior then he is Rogue.

4 Warriors 3 Rogues 2 Mages

They always include 2 Mages outside of DA2 which can give you 3 based on class and it's why they always killed one if you chose to Mage or not

DAO 4 Warriors 2 Rogues 2 Mages
DA2 2 Warriors 2 Rogues 2 Mages

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 07 septembre 2013 - 05:12 .