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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

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The body really should've just landed on an asteroid or low gravity moon or something so people would not nitpick at ME2's intro as much.


How dare you bring logic into ME!

Logic isn't heroic!!!!


The hell you say. Logic is the greatest hero of them all.

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A mangled and burned melted but intact body.


That's more what I think would happen. His armor may be advanced, but it's not orbital drop shock trooper grade armor. It's made of ceramic and metal components, both of which cane melt at high temperatures, probably like the ones experienced in atmosphereic re-entry.

Than you got to worry about the cold, which would rapidly cool the metled protions of armor and flesh together into a very messy and ungodly blend.

In essence, they should have just cloned shepard and put their brain in the clone body. It would have had a higher chance of success than the lazarus project did, which we never see actually in work outside of vauge sciency looking cutscenes.

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DeinonSlayer wrote...

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Hardly. He wouldn't be moving anywhere remotely fast enough.

Need me to post that equation again?

You're going to argue to me that people vaporize at about 120 mph?

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David7204 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Hardly. He wouldn't be moving anywhere remotely fast enough.

Need me to post that equation again?

You're going to argue to me that people vaporize at about 120 mph?


You're going to argue that Shepard is only falling at 120 mph?

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Not me. That's what his equation concerns. Terminal velocity.

Modifié par David7204, 21 août 2013 - 04:45 .


#231
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"So, how did my body not turn into a charcoal briquette on the way down?"

"Your shield generator held on for a while."

"Oh, lol. K."

The End.

#232
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David7204 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Hardly. He wouldn't be moving anywhere remotely fast enough.

Need me to post that equation again?

You're going to argue to me that people vaporize at about 120 mph?

Not at 120 mph (the lower-bound speed to which Shepard would have to decelerate while passing through the atmosphere, with bleed-off expressed as thermal energy). Orbital entry speeds, however...

D'you catch the Perseids this year, by any chance?

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Instead of looking at a normal skydiver, we should look at the redbull one. You know, the one who jumped from the highest point on record so far.

His speed was officially recorded as 843.6 mph (1,357 kph), much higher than terminal velocity.

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Meteors move through space at an average of about 8,000 meters per second.

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KaiserShep wrote...

The body really should've just landed on an asteroid or low gravity moon or something so people would not nitpick at ME2's intro as much.


Where's there to nitpick? ME2's intro is a clossal gaping hole in logic and storytelling.

Seriously, killing and reviving the protag within the first 15 minutes as a cheap reset button contrivance to fast forward two years and get him to work with Cerberus and nothing else? How Shepard died and was brought back is just one of various major problems with it.

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That has what to do with shepard again?

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David7204 wrote...

Meteors move through space at an average of about 8,000 meters per second.

Frogs cant swallow with their eyes open

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Instead of looking at a normal skydiver, we should look at the redbull one. You know, the one who jumped from the highest point on record so far.

His speed was officially recorded as 843.6 mph (1,357 kph), much higher than terminal velocity.

When people cite terminal velocity at 120 mph, they're talking about terminal velocity at sea level. It's much faster in thinner air.

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Instead of looking at a normal skydiver, we should look at the redbull one. You know, the one who jumped from the highest point on record so far.

His speed was officially recorded as 843.6 mph (1,357 kph), much higher than terminal velocity.


I'm sure Felix Baumgartner would have survived the fall if he had enough HEROISM!!!

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Instead of looking at a normal skydiver, we should look at the redbull one. You know, the one who jumped from the highest point on record so far.

His speed was officially recorded as 843.6 mph (1,357 kph), much higher than terminal velocity.

His top speed.

Is there any indication his suit suffered any sort of damage from heat?

Modifié par David7204, 21 août 2013 - 04:51 .


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DeinonSlayer wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Instead of looking at a normal skydiver, we should look at the redbull one. You know, the one who jumped from the highest point on record so far.

His speed was officially recorded as 843.6 mph (1,357 kph), much higher than terminal velocity.

When people cite terminal velocity at 120 mph, they're talking about terminal velocity at sea level. It's much faster in thinner air.

And you slow down as you hit thicker atmosphere.

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That has what to do with shepard again?

You're trying to use metoers as evidence of what would happen to Shepard. And you obviously can't do that if they're moving at vastly different speeds. Which they are.

Modifié par David7204, 21 août 2013 - 04:53 .


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Why do you resist the messiah? He just wants to educate you poor savages in the ways of strong CHARACTERIZATION and HEROISM!!!

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What level of the atmosphere was Baumgartner's highest point? Because tempertures vary wildly in the upper reaches of the atmosphere.

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David7204 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Instead of looking at a normal skydiver, we should look at the redbull one. You know, the one who jumped from the highest point on record so far.

His speed was officially recorded as 843.6 mph (1,357 kph), much higher than terminal velocity.

When people cite terminal velocity at 120 mph, they're talking about terminal velocity at sea level. It's much faster in thinner air.

And you slow down as you hit thicker atmosphere.

It didn't do Vladimir Komarov much good.

*Graphic image alert*

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David7204 wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

That has what to do with shepard again?

You're trying to use metoers as evidence of what would happen to Shepard. And you obviously can't do that if they're moving at vastly different speeds. Which they are.


You're the one who brought up metoers david. I made no mention of them.

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David7204 wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Instead of looking at a normal skydiver, we should look at the redbull one. You know, the one who jumped from the highest point on record so far.

His speed was officially recorded as 843.6 mph (1,357 kph), much higher than terminal velocity.

When people cite terminal velocity at 120 mph, they're talking about terminal velocity at sea level. It's much faster in thinner air.

And you slow down as you hit thicker atmosphere.


And you don't slow down from 843.6 mph to 120 mph because of thicker atmosphere.

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Right, my mistake. That was Deinon.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

And you don't slow down from 843.6 mph to 120 mph because of thicker atmosphere.

For a long enough fall, you absolutely will.

Modifié par David7204, 21 août 2013 - 04:57 .


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I have an idea.

Let's put a pig on the next satellite launch. As it breaks atmosphere it let's the pig fall to Earth and we can see what happens.

If the pig is still in decent shape David will be right. If if is not we are right.