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[Maria Caliban]

Jaison1986 wrote...

Well, Bethesda only used an male nord while marketing Skyrim. I wonder if they had to deal with fans complaining about the lack of female dragonborn during their promos?

They did.

[Magdalena11]

pdusen wrote...

Nyneve wrote...

Eh? The basis of OPs (and mine) disappointment isn't hurt feelings, it's the fact that female player characters are underrepresentet in video games and as of right now, the marketing for DA:I is very centered on a male protagonist.

Yes, but carry that thought to its logical conclusion. Why does the underrepresentation of female player characters in general, and in DAI marketing in particular, upset you?

I'd like to see great female protagonists designed and not tacked on as an afterthought - oh yeah, people will want to play as females too, better make this in a women's model too.  Yeah, I really am that shallow.

I liked my female Hawkes and Wardens better than my male ones and expect Bioware will continue in the excellence they have shown.

[Cheylus]

What's a female inquisitor by the way? Inquisitress?

[Scroll]

pdusen wrote...

Nyneve wrote...

Eh? The basis of OPs (and mine) disappointment isn't hurt feelings, it's the fact that female player characters are underrepresentet in video games and as of right now, the marketing for DA:I is very centered on a male protagonist.

Yes, but carry that thought to its logical conclusion. Why does the underrepresentation of female player characters in general, and in DAI marketing in particular, upset you?

I can tell you exactly, but it will only be little ol' me and I don't represent all women. 
I have played DAO and DA2 many times, but only once in each game rolled a female. I always play as a bro because I like to be the hero I have seen in MARKETING. In my personal case I buy that hero and then play HIM. I am sure that if I saw a female I would rather roll her and I actually like the idea that I am part of the audience that BioWare is marketing for. Not so sure now...

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

@Kuroi, thereisno evidence at all that the dragon tamer is the inquisitor :/

[esper]

Cheylus wrote...

What's a female inquisitor by the way? Inquisitress?

And Inquisitor, I am fairly certain that the title is gender neutral.

[Soundsystem]

TK514 wrote...

Nyneve wrote...

pdusen wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

And you are the one who gets to decide what is reasonable and what isn't?

How convient.

Just because an issue doesn't affect you doesn't make caring about it unreasonable. 

No, I certainly am as capable of being unreasonable as everyone else.

I get that many female gamers feel that their lack of representation in game marketing is an open wound. But that is a feeling, and letting that be the basis of your disappointment is, by definition, unreasonable.

Eh? The basis of OPs (and mine) disappointment isn't hurt feelings, it's the fact that female player characters are underrepresentet in video games and as of right now, the marketing for DA:I is very centered on a male protagonist.

I just can't take this complaint even moderately seriously.  Saying 'as of right now, the marketing for DA:I is very centered on a male protagonist' is like being greeted at the front door by a man while a woman walks into another room and assuming that you are only ever going to see the man and glimpses of the woman.

And what would make us think otherwise?

DA:O, DA2, ME1, ME2. All save ME3 were marketed with only brief glimpses of the female PC, if that. Other game companies have certainly not given me any reason to think, "Oh. If I just sit back nicely and wait eventually they'll get around to me. Maybe."

[Sylvianus]

Even Call of duty promoted the possibility to play a female soldier ( for the multiplayer ) in the next game, even if it was only for a few seconds lol.

[Dragoonlordz]

There is no 'women' see the world differently or 'men' see the world differently. To me saying gender (a) or ( see's the world differently is no better than those who say "everyone" hates DA2 or "everyone" loves DAO. Many women dislike feminism, many women support it, many women want to play female lead characters and many do not. Many men dislike feminism, many support it, many want to play female lead characters and many do not. But to imply men or women as an entire gender feeling one way or another is simply fallacy to me and I hate it. We are all individuals and we do not as one gender or the other all hold the same beliefs and principles or all see the world one way or the other.

Personally I think it is fine to ask for anything of a developer. But a creator of the content should always without fail as far as I am concerned make what they want to make in the end and allow us us to judge it based on our own beliefs. I will ask for things for future content and I will say what I did not like about past content but the right of the creator to create what they want should remain intact. Also don't judge a book by it's cover, same applies to marketing for games.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 20 août 2013 - 08:54 .

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Well we never really have to use the term Inquisitor in the modern world so I would assume it's just Inquisitor.

Although technically I guess it would be inquisitree, considering how Emperor goes to Empress.

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Inquisitress*

[Magdalena11]

Cheylus wrote...

What's a female inquisitor by the way? Inquisitress?

I hope you're just trying to push some buttons.  What would you call a female Senator?

[esper]

TK514 wrote...

Nyneve wrote...

pdusen wrote...

Soundsystem wrote...

And you are the one who gets to decide what is reasonable and what isn't?

How convient.

Just because an issue doesn't affect you doesn't make caring about it unreasonable. 

No, I certainly am as capable of being unreasonable as everyone else.

I get that many female gamers feel that their lack of representation in game marketing is an open wound. But that is a feeling, and letting that be the basis of your disappointment is, by definition, unreasonable.

Eh? The basis of OPs (and mine) disappointment isn't hurt feelings, it's the fact that female player characters are underrepresentet in video games and as of right now, the marketing for DA:I is very centered on a male protagonist.

I just can't take this complaint even moderately seriously.  Saying 'as of right now, the marketing for DA:I is very centered on a male protagonist' is like being greeted at the front door by a man while a woman walks into another room and assuming that you are only ever going to see the man and glimpses of the woman.

But that is exactly what happens in 80 percent of games, so that is a fairly reasonable assumption.

[Parmida]

LOL! I may be the only girl, but I enjoyed seeing that peace of beefcake Inquisitor in his full glory in leather armor and a FABULOUS hat! So hot!

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

@Parmida, you're not the only one, but we didn't mention that because it isn't at all relevant

[Lord Raijin]

Jaison1986 wrote...

Well, Bethesda only used an male nord while marketing Skyrim. I wonder if they had to deal with fans complaining about the lack of female dragonborn during their promos?

It wouldn't surprise me if their were complaints about it.

Real life people are like Mages. They have specialization skill to choose from. Far many of them pick the art of complaining as their first skill, and as they complain they get better at it. Their XP goes up each time they complain.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 20 août 2013 - 08:53 .

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

That sounded meaner than I meant it too xd

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

to*

[cjones91]

Parmida wrote...

LOL! I may be the only girl, but I enjoyed seeing that peace of beefcake Inquisitor in his full glory in leather armor and a FABULOUS hat! So hot!

That hat does look awesome,I wonder if it will come in different shapes and sizes?

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Lord Raijin, are you being deliverately obtuse or are you just naturally good at it?

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Deliberately*

[Lord Raijin]

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

Lord Raijin, are you being deliverately obtuse or are you just naturally good at it?

Are you?

[MiSS Provencale]

Sylvianus wrote...

Even Call of duty promoted the possibility to play a female soldier ( for the multiplayer ) in the next game, even if it was only for a few seconds lol.

yes infinity war see the part of player are women and it is very good!!!!

[ManchesterUnitedFan1]

Nope.

Just saying, I doubt you've NEVER complained about ANYTHING in your life before.