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[capn233]

Nobody has ever used her before.

[Zso_Zso]

So, what is so special about JavelinCabal ?
I'm not much of a Javelin user as mine is only at level 3 and ammo is too low on that. I currently have a melee oriented Cabal build, which is fun in a way, especially with Geth Scanner gear so I can pick my targets through the wall.

I just don't get what unique advantage would the Javelin bring to her. The geth scanner can give you a better wall-hack ability than the down-scope limited field-of-view you get from the Javelin.

Obviously, I am missing something, so please enlighten me!

[Deerber]

Would definitely play her more if she wan't riddled with a crapload of bugs and glitches.
Also, glad to see that AQ might change his name, but never his opinion

[capn233]

Deerber wrote...

Also, glad to see that AQ might change his name, but never his opinion

Why is Element0 taking credit for Air Quote's threads?

[Cyonan]

lolsolobalance

Anyways, all that Poison Strike needs in order to be great is a fix to the hit detection code.

Though that particular piece of code likes jumping around even more than ME3's code normally does.

and it already loves jumping around a lot.

[capn233]

Element 0 wrote...

capn233 wrote...

Deerber wrote...

Also, glad to see that AQ might change his name, but never his opinion

Why is Element0 taking credit for Air Quote's threads?

 

Because reasons

You have a lot of pictures of women.

Modifié par capn233, 21 août 2013 - 08:06 .

[d_nought]

Element 0 wrote...
18:24 on Glacier aften a bunch of tries, while all the the other better Vanguards go for 16

After looking through the mistakes in my vid, I think high 16 is possible but is also way too much effort. I'll admit that it was more the Arc Pistol than the Turian Cabal at work though.

Although the Slayer imo has the potential to go sub 14 with Armored Compartments.

[Deerber]

@AQ: replace PS with BF and I could totally agree.

[d_nought]

Element 0 wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Element 0 wrote...
18:24 on Glacier aften a bunch of tries, while all the the other better Vanguards go for 16

After looking through the mistakes in my vid, I think high 16 is possible but is also way too much effort. I'll admit that it was more the Arc Pistol than the Turian Cabal at work though.

Although the Slayer imo has the potential to go sub 14 with Armored Compartments.

 

Yeah, but that's always the feeling while playing Cabal. You always feel like you have to work a lot more than with other Vanguards for the same or even lower result. 

I thought that as well until I found out the Arc Pistol could one shot headshot at just rank 5 headshots, leaving me free to spec everything else with the obligatory 3 fitness for >990 shields. And Nightshades also one shot gold shielded units with enough power damage (can even do it without power amp if you use a power mod), so I just use them to fire and forget instead of the more popular stagger spam, which is a bit of a waste.

I might try the melee build to see if I can make it work. Probably not, but I'd rather see for myself.

Modifié par d_nought, 21 août 2013 - 08:30 .

[d_nought]

Element 0 wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

d_nought wrote...

Element 0 wrote...
18:24 on Glacier aften a bunch of tries, while all the the other better Vanguards go for 16

After looking through the mistakes in my vid, I think high 16 is possible but is also way too much effort. I'll admit that it was more the Arc Pistol than the Turian Cabal at work though.

Although the Slayer imo has the potential to go sub 14 with Armored Compartments.

 

Yeah, but that's always the feeling while playing Cabal. You always feel like you have to work a lot more than with other Vanguards for the same or even lower result. 

I thought that as well until I found out the Arc Pistol could one shot headshot at just rank 5 headshots, leaving me free to spec everything else with the obligatory 3 fitness for >990 shields. And Nightshades also one shot gold shielded units with enough power damage (can even do it without power amp if you use a power mod), so I just use them to fire and forget instead of the more popular stagger spam, which is a bit of a waste.

I might try the melee build to see if I can make it work. Probably not, but I'd rather see for myself.

 

Only VS Cerberus that are succeptable to staggers. Reapers or Collectors would be a lot slower. 

Also do you run Exploding Blades or Enhanced ones? (nvm:Exploding)

Well, I meant stagger spam vs light stuff like Nemeses etc. is a bit of a waste. Stagger -> Headshot is two steps that could have been completed with either one.. For Phantoms, though, it's definitely worth casting.

Incidentally, exploding blades, always. The extra damage of Enhanced doesn't really cross any one-shot damage thresholds compared to Exploding that I know of on Gold. They both one shot the same things at the same spec, it seems, but Exploding does it faster and with double stagger.

[d_nought]

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[TheInvoker]

i think Cabal needs gear and upgrades more than everyone else in the game,with those she's very good,without she's too easy to kill

[lightswitch]

Element 0 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

I've made an entire thread about it. 

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/16225742/3

That whole thread was based on the erroneous assumption that Poison Strike = Biotic Charge on a 1:1 ratio. It doesn't. Get over it. Learn to actually use her powers rather than write soliloquys about how you wish Poison Strike behaved exactly like something you were already familiar with.

Aren't vanguards supposed to be high mobility class that excel at close range gunplay and melee combat? Because that's exactly what the Cabal does.

 

I explained not only PS, but the whole package. High mobility is not necessary, just look at Kroguard/BatGuard.  

P.S. I've done multiple Gold solos and a Plat solo on Condor with Phaeston only. 

mobility is not the same as agility, any kit with biotic charge is high mobility.

And I don't care if you've soloed Uranium with just a Cabal and some Holy Water to throw on the bad guys. You're still wrong. Honestly, she's the best kiter in the game, so if you're going to solo plat with a bad weapon she's probably the easiest to do it with. Not impressed.

 

LOL. All talk, no walk. Even d_nough who's like one of the best players only managed to do an 18:24 on Glacier aften a bunch of tries, while all the the other better Vanguards go for 16.  She might be fun and blablabla, but she's till UP compared to others. 

She has good survivability, but her killing speed is subpar, because PS sucks. 

LOL keep trying to change the argument. It's not going to work.

Cabal is still a vanguard. That's all I ever said.

[lightswitch]

I'm serious when I said I wasn't impressed at all by the Cabal Phaeston Plat solo though. It just means you kited. A lot. Which with the Cabal, is the easiest thing ever.