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[Xilizhra]

Br3ad wrote...

Well that's great for those religions. It's too bad that none of them are fundamentally the same nor relevant at all to your statement.

And the current Pope isn't relevant to DA, so it's a wash.

As I said prior, I don't endorse what Anders did as such, but I won't kill him for it.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Xilizhra wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Well that's great for those religions. It's too bad that none of them are fundamentally the same nor relevant at all to your statement.

And the current Pope isn't relevant to DA, so it's a wash.

As I said prior, I don't endorse what Anders did as such, but I won't kill him for it.

Oh Don't worry Xil I won't kill him either.

I'll just make him help me put down the mage problem he started.

Then he can go kill himself.

Everyone wins!

[Inquisitor Recon]

Lord Raijin wrote...

ScarMK wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...
Their would be a lot of blowing up churches if the Catholic church became like what the Chantry is at now, or was. Instead of imprisoning mages (Theirs no such thing as mages in RL) they would imprison the LGBT community in their catholic run prisons out of fear and hate. They would be preached about how much of an abomination that they are because of who they are, and how god wants them to become straight again. After so much systematic abuse the LGBT community would fight back and fight for their freedom.

Bahahahahahahahahahahaha.  You've officially lost it.  

How exactly?

The entire scenario?

[CS420]

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Modifié par Preston9000, 10 octobre 2013 - 05:24 .

[Xilizhra]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Well that's great for those religions. It's too bad that none of them are fundamentally the same nor relevant at all to your statement.

And the current Pope isn't relevant to DA, so it's a wash.

As I said prior, I don't endorse what Anders did as such, but I won't kill him for it.

Oh Don't worry Xil I won't kill him either.

I'll just make him help me put down the mage problem he started.

Then he can go kill himself.

Everyone wins!

All right, but it'll be kind of a long search before you find any problems he started.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Xilizhra wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Well that's great for those religions. It's too bad that none of them are fundamentally the same nor relevant at all to your statement.

And the current Pope isn't relevant to DA, so it's a wash.

As I said prior, I don't endorse what Anders did as such, but I won't kill him for it.

Oh Don't worry Xil I won't kill him either.

I'll just make him help me put down the mage problem he started.

Then he can go kill himself.

Everyone wins!

All right, but it'll be kind of a long search before you find any problems he started.

I'm sorry Xil I can't hear you over the sound of Anders anguish at being forced to put down teh mages he became a terrorist for.

It is delicious.

[Lord Raijin]

ScarMK wrote...
Both CAN be dangerous.  I will say you're rather deluded if you think they are equally dangerous.

How am I being rather deluded? Both parties are dangerous no matter what tool they use. It's still dangerous.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Morocco Mole wrote...

So we are in agreement that Anders is a mass murdering terrorist?

But of course!

Normally I'd advise instant execution.

But I think forcing him to kill his precious mages is a more fitting punishment.

[Silfren]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Their would be a lot of blowing up churches if the Catholic church became like what the Chantry is at now, or was. Instead of imprisoning mages (Theirs no such thing as mages in RL) they would imprison the LGBT community in their catholic run prisons out of fear and hate. They would be preached about how much of an abomination that they are because of who they are, and how god wants them to become straight again. After so much systematic abuse the LGBT community would fight back and fight for their freedom.

Good lord man, why did you have to go there?!  Do you WANT this thread shut down? 

[Lord Raijin]

Morocco Mole wrote...

So we are in agreement that Anders is a mass murdering terrorist?

Not if you agree that the Chantry is at fault due to past systematic abuse.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Morocco Mole wrote...

But my friend, he already killed mages when he provoked Meredith to attack the Circle.

True enough, but I want him to kill some of those mages himself.

To twist the knife as it were.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Not if you agree that the Chantry is at fault due to past systematic abuse.

I've already said that Meredith and the Chantry were in the wrong. The issue seems to be people want to whitewash Anders actions as some noble freedom fighter when he is just as bad as the Chantry and Meredith.

But... but Anders is teh emo brooding husbando! So he must be better than those stinky chantries and Merediths!

[TheBlackBaron]

Morocco Mole wrote...

So we are in agreement that Anders is a mass murdering terrorist?

Of course not. Clearly the Reverend Mother was the only one in the Chantry and the time and she totally had it coming anyway. 

And also there were only about fifty to a hundred people in Kirkwall and Hawke probably killed half of them in the streets so it's whatevs. 

[Lord Raijin]

Morocco Mole wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Not if you agree that the Chantry is at fault due to past systematic abuse.

I've already said that Meredith and the Chantry were in the wrong. The issue seems to be people want to whitewash Anders actions as some noble freedom fighter when he is just as bad as the Chantry and Meredith.

What could've Anders do differently at the near end on ACT 3 when Meredith was on the verge of slaughtering everyone in the Circle over her false beliefs of Orsino smuggling blood mages? What if he didn't blow up the Chantry, and Orsino did go to the Chantry to complain to Elthina regarding to Meredith strong accusation? She would do the same exact thing that she did at the begining of ACT 3. She would treat both parties like her children, and make them go into their bedrooms (Gallows) to cool off. That is NOT the solution. Elthina knew their were problems between both parties, and she did nothing about it. Like I said on my previous posts if she wanted to stay neutral, that is fine. But the responsible thing that she should of done was to request Seekers aid to end this potential conflict.

The Mages vs templar conflict was imminent, even if Anders did not blow up the Chantry. Meredith was a ticking time bomb.

Modifié par Lord Raijin, 10 octobre 2013 - 05:49 .

[Lord Raijin]

Didn't Meredith overstep her boundaries a long time ago? Elthina didn't do crap about it then so why would she do something about it now? Leliana is not a Seeker by the way Shes the left hand of the Divine, so no. The Seekers weren't investigating until after the incident.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

I'm not sure what your point is. Cassanda is infallible?

Cassandra doesn't seem to be the type that doesn't make whole lot of mistakes considering the fact that shes not just a Seeker, but the Hero of Orlais and the Right Hand of the Divine. Seems like shes infallible after all wouldn't you say?

Someone who is incompetent ,who makes poor judgements, is incapable of achieving such titles.

It's ok if you disagree with her, but she stating the facts. You can argue about how much Anders was truly to blame, or the idol, but the fact is Meredith went crazy and provoked the Circle therefour responsible for causing an uproar in Kirkwall.

Your talking about someone whose entire thoughts on the events changed completely when she talked to varric. That already shows her being wrong and making a judgement call of having armed men drag him about and using threats to interrogate him. When really, she'd probably have been just as successful if she'd just paid him a few sovereigns to tell her the truth.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Anders was provoked by Meredith madness (The Grand Cleric allowed her madness to go on for as long as it did) that caused him to plan and to blow up the Chantry.

You mean vengence was provoked by meredith. Anders is pretty much being held hostage in his own body by the demon he created.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Anders Vengance hated the Circles because it was under the control of the Chantry. Had the Circle been controlled by the Mages, Vengance would have forced anders to move to a different city and pick a fight with the templars there.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Their would be a lot of blowing up churches if the Catholic church became like what the Chantry is at now, or was. Instead of imprisoning mages (Theirs no such thing as mages in RL) they would imprison the LGBT community in their catholic run prisons out of fear and hate. They would be preached about how much of an abomination that they are because of who they are, and how god wants them to become straight again. After so much systematic abuse the LGBT community would fight back and fight for their freedom.

It's called the inquisition. Go support the ottomans and get a nail through your head by vlad dracula, you silly goose.

And you could have picked any other actually targeted group, like smaller religious communities, or people of different nationalities, and you pick LGBT?

You Stink.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Lord Raijin wrote...

Morocco Mole wrote...

Lord Raijin wrote...

Not if you agree that the Chantry is at fault due to past systematic abuse.

I've already said that Meredith and the Chantry were in the wrong. The issue seems to be people want to whitewash Anders actions as some noble freedom fighter when he is just as bad as the Chantry and Meredith.

What could've Anders do differently at the near end on ACT 3 when Meredith was on the verge of slaughtering everyone in the Circle over her false beliefs of Orsino smuggling blood mages? What if he didn't blow up the Chantry, and Orsino did go to the Chantry to complain to Elthina regarding to Meredith strong accusation? She would do the same exact thing that she did at the begining of ACT 3. She would treat both parties like her children, and make them go into their bedrooms (Gallows) to cool off. That is NOT the solution. Elthina knew their were problems between both parties, and she did nothing about it. Like I said on my previous posts if she wanted to stay neutral, that is fine. But the responsible thing that she should of done was to request Seekers aid to end this potential conflict.

The Mages vs templar conflict was imminent, even if Anders did not blow up the Chantry. Meredith was a ticking time bomb.

Think about all the people who would not be dead right now, mages, templars, and innocent people caught in the cross fire, if vengance hadn't essentially declared war on everyone who believes in the maker with his stunt. Not just the templars, no. He declared war on the entire religion, and showed that anyone who believes in it, is now considered a potential threat. Than, he produly proclaims that he is glad he did this, so that everyone will die, and all the mages can either kill all the templars to die trying, and become martyrs for [b]his[b] cause. Because let's be honest, all vengance ever cares about is itself.