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[DatOneFanboy]

 http://www.gameinfor...nquisition.aspx

[Beerfish]

Treasure maps? Excellent (rubbing hands together).

Inventory, Character record, Map, Journal, Codex, Abilities, Close hero menu

This is one aspect I am really looking forward to, the exploring areas in which you have not been led around by the nose to get to.

Pretty detailed game telemetry data they have, pretty cool.

[llandwynwyn]

Thanks for posting the link.

[azarhal]

ooooh, treasure maps

[Wulfram]

Well, that sounds horrible.

[Eterna]

Wulfram wrote...

Well, that sounds horrible.

Downer. 

[Beerfish]

Wulfram wrote...

Well, that sounds horrible.

If by horrible you mean great then you may be correct.

[I Like Cats And]

I'm slowly becoming more and more discouraged.....

[Vilegrim]

sounds interesting, depends who much of the BG name dropping being done is serious (and with the combat video being the way it is, they seem to have missed what to me was the point of those games so...)

[Wulfram]

Eterna5 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Well, that sounds horrible.

Downer. 

I know other people like exploration, but me it's like saying that they were going to make turret sequences the key mechanic in ME4.  Or conversations with glowing children, maybe.

edit:  The BG name dropping confusing because BG1 and BG2 are quite dramatically different.

Modifié par Wulfram, 21 août 2013 - 07:40 .

[Vilegrim]

Wulfram wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Well, that sounds horrible.

Downer. 

I know other people like exploration, but me it's like saying that they were going to make turret sequences the key mechanic in ME4.  Or conversations with glowing children, maybe.

edit:  The BG name dropping confusing because BG1 and BG2 are quite dramatically different.

they are, but both do have random things and places to explore.

[Beerfish]

Wulfram wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Well, that sounds horrible.

Downer. 

I know other people like exploration, but me it's like saying that they were going to make turret sequences the key mechanic in ME4.  Or conversations with glowing children, maybe.

edit:  The BG name dropping confusing because BG1 and BG2 are quite dramatically different.

I have no idea what you are referring to in your examples.  It's very simple and very clear.  They are having zones but the maps in those zones are really big.  They are letting you explore the entirety of these maps as there will be things to see and do not related to the main quest.  Optional exploration like in BG1.

So again what is horrible about it?  You never came out and sais you hated optional exploration, but gave some bizarre silly examples of.....something or other.

[Jackums]

The terrain looks gorgeous.

[Wulfram]

Beerfish wrote...

I have no idea what you are referring to in your examples.  It's very simple and very clear.  They are having zones but the maps in those zones are really big.  They are letting you explore the entirety of these maps as there will be things to see and do not related to the main quest.  Optional exploration like in BG1.

So again what is horrible about it?  You never came out and sais you hated optional exploration, but gave some bizarre silly examples of.....something or other.

I hate exploration.  I hate having interesting content walled off behind stupid tedium.

[packardbell]

Wulfram wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

I have no idea what you are referring to in your examples.  It's very simple and very clear.  They are having zones but the maps in those zones are really big.  They are letting you explore the entirety of these maps as there will be things to see and do not related to the main quest.  Optional exploration like in BG1.

So again what is horrible about it?  You never came out and sais you hated optional exploration, but gave some bizarre silly examples of.....something or other.

I hate exploration.  I hate having interesting content walled off behind stupid tedium.

How do you know that?

[Vilegrim]

Wulfram wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

I have no idea what you are referring to in your examples.  It's very simple and very clear.  They are having zones but the maps in those zones are really big.  They are letting you explore the entirety of these maps as there will be things to see and do not related to the main quest.  Optional exploration like in BG1.

So again what is horrible about it?  You never came out and sais you hated optional exploration, but gave some bizarre silly examples of.....something or other.

I hate exploration.  I hate having interesting content walled off behind stupid tedium.

depends how far off the beaten track you have to go for the lovely extras surely?   Eploring every little piece of a map earned you easter eggs and loot in BG, and Fallout, two genre defining classics.  How can that be bad, as long as it is optional? 

[Mummy22kids]

I love the idea of more exploration and the chance to find (or not find) different hings depending on where you travel or if/when you go back. Adds to replayability for me.

[TheBlackAdder13]

I Like Cats And wrote...

I'm slowly becoming more and more discouraged.....

Why? The only discouraging thing I've seen so far is the combat, which is still in pre-alpha and, let's face it, the combat has never been particularly strong in Dragon Age, not exactly what the series is known for. But what on earth could your problem possibly be with optional exploration? 

Modifié par TheBlackAdder13, 21 août 2013 - 07:58 .

[Wulfram]

Where's this "optional" coming from?

Laidlaw:
"Fundamentally, the experience I want players to have, the campaign, right, the core storyline presents you with a series of challenges, and those challenges are fulfilled via exploring."

Warner:
"Probably the majority of the gameplay is the player exploring Thedas"

Modifié par Wulfram, 21 août 2013 - 07:58 .

[shinobi602]

I Like Cats And wrote...

I'm slowly becoming more and more discouraged.....

Eterna5 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Well, that sounds horrible.

Downer. 

......what are you guys talking about exactly?

Modifié par shinobi602, 21 août 2013 - 08:00 .

[Sylvianus]

As a sucker for exploration and Skyrim"s fan, I'm obviously happy with where they are heading.
This is really promising. And they are aware that they should do it carefully because their priority like Mike said is the story first.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 21 août 2013 - 08:00 .

[mel0r0r]

is it pony? we can summon pony?

Modifié par mel0r0r, 21 août 2013 - 08:02 .

[TheBlackAdder13]

Wulfram wrote...

Where's this "optional" coming from?

Laidlaw:
"Fundamentally, the experience I want players to have, the campaign, right, the core storyline presents you with a series of challenges, and those challenges are fulfilled via exploring."

Warner:
"Probably the majority of the gameplay is the player exploring Thedas"

Well the story objectives in DA:O and DA 2 can't be accomplished without "exploring" certain areas, more so DA:O obviously. That just means you're moving thorugh different enviornments as you accomplish various story/quest objectives. I think they've been pretty clear that in addition to moving through new areas to pursue critical plot paths, which is, as I said, a form of exploration and a feature of pretty much any RPG in addition to Dragon Age, there will also be non-story related places you can expore if you so choose to. 

They've also made it clear in the video that they're intent on keeping the same story/party based formula that DA is built around rather than shift to limitless open world exploration, so it seems like you're just cherry picking their statements to portray it in as negative a light as possible. 

Modifié par TheBlackAdder13, 21 août 2013 - 08:03 .

[fchopin]

Exploration looks great, this will be one of my favourite things in the game.


One thing i like to say to Keith Warner is don't make it easy for us to find treasures.

Thank you for the link op.

[Wulfram]

shinobi602 wrote...

......what are you guys talking about exactly?

I don't like exploration.  Exploration is apparently going to be at the heart of the game.  I think this is bad.