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[Bionuts]

LiL Reapur wrote...

Str8 up my dude

[LiL Reapur]

Bionuts wrote...

LiL Reapur wrote...

Str8 up my dude

I have "LiL" in my name. I'm a "little" ghetto

[Secretlyapotato]

Bionuts wrote...

Secretlyapotato wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

He has the stereotypical black guy lines, he talks in a seriously stereotypical black guy way.

I don't see anything wrong with how he talks, he doesn't sound like he's out of the ghetto or anything.

Nothing wrong with ghetto talk.<_<

I just meant I don't think he talks stereotypically. >.>

[KaiserShep]

What is this nonsense about Jacob's manner of speech being "stereotypical" and him being the token in the Cerberus lot? Wonders never cease. Of all the complaints to be made about this character, this is definitely the worst.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 22 août 2013 - 08:18 .

[Bionuts]

Most African-Americans speak normal English. Them being dark-skinned doesn't change this fact.

Jacob speaks like a stereotypical American.

[Reorte]

Fixers0 wrote...

I never really got the hate for Jacob, or the fact that people are trying to make fun of him, on the contrary he comes over to me as the most "normal" and level headed companion of Mass Effect 2, he has issues of course, but compared to some of the characters, he's pretty reasonable.

I'm pretty much the same. He's one of the few characters I wouldn't run a mile from if he was real. I can understand a dislike if you romanced him then found out he cheated on you but as a MaleShep player none of that side of him was apparent. As has been said, just less interesting than the rest, which would be good in reality but makes a less interesting fictional character. I'd be happy to have a beer with him, which is more than I can say for some of them.

[Br3admax]

Bionuts wrote...

Most African-Americans speak normal English. Them being dark-skinned doesn't change this fact.

Jacob speaks like a stereotypical American.

I'm both black and American. He's steretyopical. 

[LiL Reapur]

StreetMagic wrote...

Jacob's a bit on the "normal" side, but I still like him. It helps to have a grounded character. He's more interesting than Kaidan, I guess, for stirring up things in the Alliance and having a slightly more rebellious attitude. Also, Kaidan looks like a metrosexual Elvis impersonator. Which is kind of annoying.

Look at this you will agree with that statement even more.

[Bionuts]

Br3ad wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Most African-Americans speak normal English. Them being dark-skinned doesn't change this fact.

Jacob speaks like a stereotypical American.

I'm both black and American. He's steretyopical. 

I'm referring to his speech.

[AresKeith]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

He's not a bad character, as far as I'm concerned, he's just over shadowed by a whole bunch of much better ones.

Also, I don't think the writers really knew what to do with him. They wanted another Cerberus character alongside Miranda that was a little more sympathetic but they didn't invest enough into it. He's sort of jumbled and made up of a few too many unerdeveloped ideas. Traumatic experiences at Eden Prime, a drive to do good but not finding it in the Alliance, some concerns over Cerberus, pride in his work, an absent father; there's a lack of definition to make him stand out. Compare him to Thane, who has a clearly defined character and background.

Pretty much this

[Br3admax]

Bionuts wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Most African-Americans speak normal English. Them being dark-skinned doesn't change this fact.

Jacob speaks like a stereotypical American.

I'm both black and American. He's steretyopical. 

I'm referring to his speech.

And I too his mannerism. Plus some of his dialogue is really, really bad. No denying. 

[Clayless]

People who think Jacob is stereotypical REALLY need to see Cole from Gears of War.

Anyway the problem with Jacob is, seemingly after the beginning, they just sort of dropped him. He barely speaks and closes up. Why this happens is beyond me, look at Vega for example, who basically boils down to "Alliance grunt" yet is incredibly interesting and well written.

Jacob is like the fallen Alliance who is a bit lost, they had many ways they could have taken his story or made him interesting. He's also a nice guy who would risk his life to protect others, another good trait about him that they could have spun. Instead he's just, well, dull. And how no one at Bioware saw the borderline racist undertones of making him run away and knock up a woman at the first chance he got is beyond me. Making him cheat on FemShep was a terrible, terrible decision.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Jacob certainly does sound like a stereotypical African American.

"Commander, drive core just lit up like a christmas tree!"
"Let's finish these metal-bastards!"
"GRAVITY'S ONE MEAN MOTHER, HUH??"

Nobody talks like that normally. It's forced swagger, which you won't see out of a character of any other ethnicity. LOL!

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 22 août 2013 - 09:10 .

[Reorte]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Jacob certainly does sound like a stereotypical African American.

"Commander, drive core just lit up like a christmas tree!"
"Let's finish these metal-bastards!"
"GRAVITY'S ONE MEAN MOTHER, HUH??"

Nobody talks like that normally. It's forced swagger, which you won't see out of a character of any other ethnicity. LOL!

I'd say only the last of those fits that accusation, the rest of it sounds like typical action film talk from any character.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Reorte wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Jacob certainly does sound like a stereotypical African American.

"Commander, drive core just lit up like a christmas tree!"
"Let's finish these metal-bastards!"
"GRAVITY'S ONE MEAN MOTHER, HUH??"

Nobody talks like that normally. It's forced swagger, which you won't see out of a character of any other ethnicity. LOL!

I'd say only the last of those fits that accusation, the rest of it sounds like typical action film talk from any character.

Not really. I don't hear other Mass Effect characters using cliched catch-phrases or trite metaphors like Jacob does.

BUT THE PRIIIIZE.

WE LIIIVE. WE GET LOUDDD! SPILL DRINKS ON THE CITADEL!!!

Not to say we'll go out and have a beer when this is done, we're going to "spill drinks" on the Citadel. WTF?

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 22 août 2013 - 09:21 .

[LiL Reapur]

HYR 2.0 wrote...
"It's forced swagger"

Exactly but i agree the other two are normal but yea pretty bad

@Robo yea Cole is WAY worse

[Kataphrut94]

I got nothing against Jacob; him and me, we're mates. The banter on his Citadel DLC date thing was beautiful. I like his role in Mass Effect 2 as the deliberately normal guy to contrast all the eccentric personalities; people underappreciate that.

I don't hold anything against him for cheating on Shepard because that never happened to me personally, so I'm not going to go blaming him for something his evil alternate universe counterpart did. There are alternate versions of Wrex & Legion who flat out try to kill Shepard, but I don't hold that against them either.

[IntelligentME3Fanboy]

Jacob is awesome.Dat six pack

[Br3admax]

Kataphrut94 wrote...

I got nothing against Jacob; him and me, we're mates. The banter on his Citadel DLC date thing was beautiful. I like his role in Mass Effect 2 as the deliberately normal guy to contrast all the eccentric personalities; people underappreciate that.

I don't hold anything against him for cheating on Shepard because that never happened to me personally, so I'm not going to go blaming him for something his evil alternate universe counterpart did. There are alternate versions of Wrex & Legion who flat out try to kill Shepard, but I don't hold that against them either.

The difference between genocide and nothing is immeasurable.

[AlexMBrennan]

don't hold anything against him for cheating on Shepard because that never happened to me personally, so I'm not going to go blaming him for something his evil alternate universe counterpart did.

That's not true though - the alternative choices show what Jacob would have done if he had been in that situation, whereas an "evil alternate universe counterpart" would have acted differently in the *same* situation.

If Alice would strangle a kitten given the chance then that does say something about her character regardless of whether she actually comes across any kittens to kill.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 22 août 2013 - 10:00 .

[Bionuts]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

don't hold anything against him for cheating on Shepard because that never happened to me personally, so I'm not going to go blaming him for something his evil alternate universe counterpart did.

That's not true though - the alternative choices show what Jacob would have done if he had been in that situation, whereas an "evil alternate universe counterpart" would have acted differently in the *same* situation.

If Alice would strangle a kitten given the chance then that does say something about her character regardless of whether she actually comes across any kittens to kill.

Very true, but you'll see long debates about this in other threads, because some posters don't like the idea of (insert character) doing what they did.

[Display Name Owner]

To be honest, I like that he's just 'a guy'. He's not my favourite, but I like him well enough. He's a good stabilising element, a nice contrast to the drama and emotional blah blah of squaddies like Thane and Jack (who I do like. Well, not Thane so much, he bores me).

I never tried his romance, but I know what happens, and you know what? I strangely like that at least one LI doesn't just keep Shepard at the centre of their universe. I mean, it's still kind of dickish, but hey.

[ShallowlLife9871]

Ah, Jacob….
To me, the reason I don’t like him is: he never gives you anything more than cliff notes about himself. And yeah, I real life there are people who don’t talk much about themselves. But this is a video game. Evan ice queen Miranda and miss ‘I have trust issues a mile long.’ Jack tell you about themselves: if you make the effort.

But Jacob?
He gives you hints of some of the things he’s done… but nothing more behind: I was a…..
And even if you do become friends with him, it’s mainly adds up too: let’s get drinks! You never get the feeling you connect with him as you do with the other characters. This point feels more like collouges after work.

Hell, I even feel more for Liara and I hate her.

As for the romance….. the less said the better…