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Women players, What is your femshep ideal romanceable human male like?


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StreetMagic wrote...

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 It makes me smile to think of all the guys in-universe lusting over this beautiful valkyrie warrior woman that none of them could ever have a shot at landing.


You are evil.......
:devil:


I do try... and your avatar makes me say again that Jack (and to a lesser degree Miranda) should have been available for F/F relationships, but especially Jack who has experience in the area.


Agreed. I'm glad I have the Jack option as a male, but she'd work either way. This way you get two Biotic bisexuals. One meek and one destructive.

edit: Oh wait, they added Kaidan to that group. Doesn't stand out from Liara though.


She would supplant Liara as my favorite LI for femshep.

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Jukaga wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Jukaga wrote...

LiL Reapur wrote...

Jukaga wrote...
 It makes me smile to think of all the guys in-universe lusting over this beautiful valkyrie warrior woman that none of them could ever have a shot at landing.


You are evil.......
:devil:


I do try... and your avatar makes me say again that Jack (and to a lesser degree Miranda) should have been available for F/F relationships, but especially Jack who has experience in the area.


Agreed. I'm glad I have the Jack option as a male, but she'd work either way. This way you get two Biotic bisexuals. One meek and one destructive.

edit: Oh wait, they added Kaidan to that group. Doesn't stand out from Liara though.


She would supplant Liara as my favorite LI for femshep.


Only if samantha becomes bi as well i may be a Jackolyte, but dat Traynor.......
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Only if samantha becomes bi as well i may be a Jackolyte, but dat Traynor.......
:blink:


Oh, I love Sam, she just doesn't have enough screentime to become a personal canon LI. She has some great content in the Citadel DLC, but never having her on a mission kinda sucks and she has nothing much to say beyond 'Commander.' other than her few scripted conversations.

I should have prefaced my Jack comment by saying if they made Jack bi and a squadmate in ME3 she would supplant Liara as my prefered femshep LI.

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Jukaga wrote...

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Only if samantha becomes bi as well i may be a Jackolyte, but dat Traynor.......
:blink:


Oh, I love Sam, she just doesn't have enough screentime to become a personal canon LI. She has some great content in the Citadel DLC, but never having her on a mission kinda sucks and she has nothing much to say beyond 'Commander.' other than her few scripted conversations.

I should have prefaced my Jack comment by saying if they made Jack bi and a squadmate in ME3 she would supplant Liara as my prefered femshep LI.


Wanting Jack as a squadmate is a given, romance or not. :whistle:

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My FemShep is with Liara, but I have a bit of hots for Vega aswell. I hope the next Mass Effect game introduces poly-relationships. And it'd be great to have some D/s-dynamics options in the relationships aswell. If there would've been some D/s-options in the ME-trilogy, my renegade femShep would've so dominated her relationships. And my paragon maleShep would've been a submissive cutiepie. The games are rated 18, make that mean something! ^_^


That's going too far. They don't need to be covering what fetishes your protag may be into.


I don't want to derail the discussion, but for me RPGs are about the freedom of choices. D/s is not a fetish, it's a relationship dynamic. I think RPGs could have different kind of relationship dynamics. Renegade/paragon Shepards could have more drastically different personality types as far as it comes to close relationships. And I would not mind if I had the chance to choose what kind of dynamics my Shepard wants to go for. That's all I'm saying.

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My FemShep is with Liara, but I have a bit of hots for Vega aswell. I hope the next Mass Effect game introduces poly-relationships. And it'd be great to have some D/s-dynamics options in the relationships aswell. If there would've been some D/s-options in the ME-trilogy, my renegade femShep would've so dominated her relationships. And my paragon maleShep would've been a submissive cutiepie. The games are rated 18, make that mean something! ^_^


That's going too far. They don't need to be covering what fetishes your protag may be into.


I don't want to derail the discussion, but for me RPGs are about the freedom of choices. D/s is not a fetish, it's a relationship dynamic. I think RPGs could have different kind of relationship dynamics. Renegade/paragon Shepards could have more drastically different personality types as far as it comes to close relationships. And I would not mind if I had the chance to choose what kind of dynamics my Shepard wants to go for. That's all I'm saying.


I'll play along. From the way I see it, Shepard, whether male or female, renegade or paragon would always be a 'dominant' personality simply from the non-negotiable parts of who and what they are, namely a bad-ass marine commander who takes the galaxy by the scruff of the neck and saves it depite all the kicking and screaming. How could this person ever be 'submissive' and gotten to the pinnacle of their careers.

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Yeah, Jack should have been available for all of my femsheps :(

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Jukaga wrote...

RainbowDazed wrote...

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My FemShep is with Liara, but I have a bit of hots for Vega aswell. I hope the next Mass Effect game introduces poly-relationships. And it'd be great to have some D/s-dynamics options in the relationships aswell. If there would've been some D/s-options in the ME-trilogy, my renegade femShep would've so dominated her relationships. And my paragon maleShep would've been a submissive cutiepie. The games are rated 18, make that mean something! ^_^


That's going too far. They don't need to be covering what fetishes your protag may be into.


I don't want to derail the discussion, but for me RPGs are about the freedom of choices. D/s is not a fetish, it's a relationship dynamic. I think RPGs could have different kind of relationship dynamics. Renegade/paragon Shepards could have more drastically different personality types as far as it comes to close relationships. And I would not mind if I had the chance to choose what kind of dynamics my Shepard wants to go for. That's all I'm saying.


I'll play along. From the way I see it, Shepard, whether male or female, renegade or paragon would always be a 'dominant' personality simply from the non-negotiable parts of who and what they are, namely a bad-ass marine commander who takes the galaxy by the scruff of the neck and saves it depite all the kicking and screaming. How could this person ever be 'submissive' and gotten to the pinnacle of their careers.


True, but I still kind of see my Colonist Shep as having a lot of sadness and probably needs to be vulnerable with someone.. even if that's not usually the case. I kind of like how Jack plays out with this guy. No one is dominant in this pairing. They both occassionally tell each other to shape the f*ck up.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 23 août 2013 - 09:53 .


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Yeah, Jack should have been available for all of my femsheps :(


Samantha should've been available for Maleshep.

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Yeah, Jack should have been available for all of my femsheps :(


Samantha should've been available for Maleshep.


I don't see how one follows the other. Jack tells you about her pervious bisexual past, Traynor is a lesbian. I'm not automatically opposed to Samantha being bi, but a better example would be 'if Miranda is available for femsheps, then Samantha should be for sheploo'.

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They'd probably get complaints like they did with Dragon Age for not having straight up lesbian/gay LIs (i.e. everyone's bisexual). It kind of diminishes the unique orientation/circumstances of both gay and bi.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 23 août 2013 - 10:18 .


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Erezike trolling? Now I've seen everything

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If we're including the novels.... Anderson..... Keith David is great. You must remember I'm older. Alas, Anderson was not available.

The flings with Kaidan and Jacob were flings with the pool boy age-wise.

Thane was closer, but he's not human. Garrus did know how to Tango, but again he's not human, and he's spiky and his skin looks very rough. And that's why I went for Liara in all my other play-throughs of the series -- she was 106, much older than Shepard .... :runs and hides:

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RainbowDazed wrote...

Jukaga wrote...

I don't want to derail the discussion, but for me RPGs are about the freedom of choices. D/s is not a fetish, it's a relationship dynamic. I think RPGs could have different kind of relationship dynamics. Renegade/paragon Shepards could have more drastically different personality types as far as it comes to close relationships. And I would not mind if I had the chance to choose what kind of dynamics my Shepard wants to go for. That's all I'm saying.


I'll play along. From the way I see it, Shepard, whether male or female, renegade or paragon would always be a 'dominant' personality simply from the non-negotiable parts of who and what they are, namely a bad-ass marine commander who takes the galaxy by the scruff of the neck and saves it depite all the kicking and screaming. How could this person ever be 'submissive' and gotten to the pinnacle of their careers.


It's also possible that the idea of public submissiveness would be off the table in such a setting if Shepard did roll for a D/S relationship. That way she didn't have to put her career at risk. Anyway, there are plenty of people out there who are dominate that love being put into submissive rolls. To me, I could easily see Shep being into it. Gives her the opportunity to give control to someone else for a change since she has so much of it.

Thinking about this, her behavour, language, and posture always struck me as very assertive or aggressive when it came to instigating relationships in the game. One thing I would have loved was if some relationships were eased into. Like over time, during mission critical zones with potential LI's, dialog was bounced back and forth that could be later explored and developed. This could work with certain characters, but not with others. It would hinge on that LI's personality. Let me use Garrus as an example since 1) he was in my party in nearly every mission in all 3 games and 2) was my LI. Given their history and the fact Garrus was always 'star struck' by Shepard, I thought her pitch about blowing off steam was... out of place. I had the same, "Whoa, uh... well now." reaction that the turian did. lol If he had a crush, there could have been playful banter during one of their missions where his comments became unintentionally flirtatous. After that mission, Shepard could talk to him about what he said and proceed to advance with romance or continue with friendship. To be honest, the dialog pitched in the game felt like "sex first! then relationship" which isn't how I see them working.

I don't know, if I had it my way, the romancing part for all characters would be a lot more involved so that there are many ways a player could approach the romances. But that would probably add another gig to the game with so many different variables, voice acting, and cut scenes. :P I'm still a touch jaded there was no awkward turian sex scene. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

Also, maybe Shep isn't as forward with all LI's though so perhaps be a bit off base with my aggressive remark earlier (I'm a newbie to the games - Just started playing and finished my first full run about a week ago).

To answer the original question posed, personally I thought the romancable humans were "yawn". While Kaiden did eventually grow on me by the middle of the third game, he's not the right LI to the femshep I played. Only the "bird" was able to fillful her romantic needs. <3

Modifié par Moshing Tick, 24 août 2013 - 12:08 .


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Jukaga wrote...

RainbowDazed wrote...

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My FemShep is with Liara, but I have a bit of hots for Vega aswell. I hope the next Mass Effect game introduces poly-relationships. And it'd be great to have some D/s-dynamics options in the relationships aswell. If there would've been some D/s-options in the ME-trilogy, my renegade femShep would've so dominated her relationships. And my paragon maleShep would've been a submissive cutiepie. The games are rated 18, make that mean something! ^_^


That's going too far. They don't need to be covering what fetishes your protag may be into.


I don't want to derail the discussion, but for me RPGs are about the freedom of choices. D/s is not a fetish, it's a relationship dynamic. I think RPGs could have different kind of relationship dynamics. Renegade/paragon Shepards could have more drastically different personality types as far as it comes to close relationships. And I would not mind if I had the chance to choose what kind of dynamics my Shepard wants to go for. That's all I'm saying.


I'll play along. From the way I see it, Shepard, whether male or female, renegade or paragon would always be a 'dominant' personality simply from the non-negotiable parts of who and what they are, namely a bad-ass marine commander who takes the galaxy by the scruff of the neck and saves it depite all the kicking and screaming. How could this person ever be 'submissive' and gotten to the pinnacle of their careers.


There are actually plenty of powerful people who prefer being submissive in the bedroom. My Sheploo is a Renegade through and through, ruthless profile, almost always go with the renegade options et al. Yet I consider him quite submissive to Kaidan at times and I love it. Like during their love scene when Kaidan pushes him to the bed. Or when Kaidan would grab him from behind in the Citadel DLC. :wub: Being submissive in the bedroom or with a partner is something totally different than a career environment.

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Fan fiction will always be able to do a much better job with that sort of a thing than developers will.

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Agreed, David.

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Yeah, I don't see devs including dominatrix fantasies in their games any times soon, either.

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Yeah, I don't see devs including dominatrix fantasies in their games any times soon, either.


Well gee, just crap all over our hopes and dreams, why don't you...

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Plenty of D/S fanfic on the web, KaiserShep. The Aria/Tevos ones are pretty good.

I mean, or so I've heard. From people. Other people. Who've read them. So they say. Never read them myself or anything, no way. Never even heard of the kink meme. 

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I mean, or so I've heard. From people. Other people. Who've read them. So they say. Never read them myself or anything, no way. Never even heard of the kink meme. 

 

:?

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lol.. I'm oblivious. Didn't know the conversation shifted to dominatrix fetishes. I thought you all were talk about simple dominant/submissive relationship dynamics.

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KaiserShep wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Yeah, I don't see devs including dominatrix fantasies in their games any times soon, either.


Well gee, just crap all over our hopes and dreams, why don't you...


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Plenty of D/S fanfic on the web, KaiserShep. The Aria/Tevos ones are pretty good. 

I mean, or so I've heard. From people. Other people. Who've read them. So they say. Never read them myself or anything, no way. Never even heard of the kink meme. 


Not enough Tevos/mShep, tbh. Or that's what I've heard anyways. On the radio, that is.

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CynicalShep wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Yeah, I don't see devs including dominatrix fantasies in their games any times soon, either.


Well gee, just crap all over our hopes and dreams, why don't you...


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Lol :D!

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Rich.

- a legit female gamer.

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If I could upvote this, I would.

As far as the OP is concerned, I had real fun with Traynor in ME3. But I was super disappointed with the options for Vega. I understand that he was one of those FWB characters, but I think a full on, no-holds-barred romance with him would've been sweet. It'd be a 'fluffy teddybear of steel' kinda deal with lots of punches thrown, both physically and verbally.