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[David7204]

Really? That's an interesting conclusion. Mass Effect 4 is going to take, at the very least, three years to complete and likely more. So from that evidence, you conclude that the series is 'on it's way to becoming' a pumped-out-a-year franchise. Could you walk me through that thought process?

You see, generally, when I see developers spending more time on their games, I don't conclude that they're on a trend of spending less times on their games. You apparently don't agree.

Modifié par David7204, 24 août 2013 - 06:38 .

[David7204]

No, I was responding to Hanar.

[AresKeith]

David where's this info that Mass Effect is getting 3 or more development time?

[David7204]

Logic. If ME 4 gets released the day after DA:I, that's still over two and a half years of development. The chances of ME 4 being released within six months of DA:I are incredibly low, so we can safely conclude it will have at least three years of development and likely more.

[Hey]

nah, i at least need a screenshot. you gotta tease me a little first.

[CynicalShep]

EntropicAngel wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

Except CDProjectRed released a game every 3-4 years as opposed to EAs yearly releases. Half the number of employees and 4 times the amount of time they have to work on a game. That would be the equivalent of DICE having to release a game every other year. 
And juggling a multitude of projects is harder than working on one single project at a time. 
That being said, the Witcher was far from perfect and buggy as hell, especially right after the release (and I rather liked the game)

EA doesn't do yearly releases except on the sports games, which as you mentioned are the same basic game. Not a valid comparison. In actuality it's around a two-year cycle, with twice the amount of people--which sounds like it adds up.

The Battlefield series had 11 games and 12 expansion packs since 2002. DICE really has significantly less time to work on their games than CDProjectRed.

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

Logic. If ME 4 gets released the day after DA:I, that's still over two and a half years of development. The chances of ME 4 being released within six months of DA:I are incredibly low, so we can safely conclude it will have at least three years of development and likely more.

Okay. I can see that logic. But it's still just speculative guestemation that shouldn't be held to any sort of seriousness.

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

Logic. If ME 4 gets released the day after DA:I, that's still over two and a half years of development. The chances of ME 4 being released within six months of DA:I are incredibly low, so we can safely conclude it will have at least three years of development and likely more.

Implying that the game is in development now, which it's probably not and they're still building the team

[David7204]

It's absolutely in development now. Do you think the team at Montreal is paid to go in and drink beer all day? It might not be in production yet, but that's perfectly normal, particularly considering the new engine and hardware.

Not to mention the numerous tweets and assurances by the staff that the game is indeed in development.

Modifié par David7204, 24 août 2013 - 06:47 .

[The Heretic of Time]

David7204 wrote...

Really? That's an interesting conclusion. Mass Effect 4 is going to take, at the very least, three years to complete and likely more. So from that evidence, you conclude that the series is 'on it's way to becoming' a pumped-out-a-year franchise. Could you walk me through that thought process?

You see, generally, when I see developers spending more time on their games, I don't conclude that they're on a trend of spending less times on their games. You apparently don't agree.

I was not talking about pumped-out-a-year franchises specifically, I was talking about milked "golden goose" franchises. You know, stuff like Assassin's Creed. That's the way Mass Effect is heading, and it has nothing to do with development time.

Also, you have absolutely no info on how long it's going to take for ME4 to be developed. You're basically pulling that info out of your arse, like you usually do.

Not to mention that you completely forget the fact that BioWare has to build a new Mass Effect from the ground up in terms of... well.... everything (engine, story, graphics, characters, setting, etc. etc.). It's only logical that ME4, like DAI, is going to take a bit longer to develop.

But we'll see how it goes with Mass Effect after their first "next-gen Mass Effect" is released. Personally I expect a lot of milking and nickel-and-diming.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 24 août 2013 - 06:47 .

[CynicalShep]

David7204 wrote...

I fail to see how raking in cash for years on and end and having it eventually dry up is getting "bitten in the @ss.:D" It seems to me like a much better alternative then getting no cash at all.

As I said, PES is far from perfect. If they were to put more effort in FIFA it would have been off the market a long time ago. As it stands - they're losing more and more ground every year. Thing is, the cash wouldn't have "dried up" if EA bothered to make quality sports games. 

[CynicalShep]

StreetMagic wrote...

They managed to pull off ME2 with kinks in their funding, a global financial crisis, and half of the team getting a serious flu (or something). I still have faith they've still "got it".

Whether they pull that off quickly is another issue. Good thing is, a lot of the back end is done (engine).

I always get sick when I work more than 60-70 hrs per week. Fatigue is a mean b*tch.

[Mr.House]

StreetMagic wrote...

They managed to pull off ME2 with kinks in their funding, a global financial crisis, and half of the team getting a serious flu (or something). I still have faith they've still "got it".

Whether they pull that off quickly is another issue. Good thing is, a lot of the back end is done (engine).

ME2 sucked, so this does not reassure me.

[CynicalShep]

StreetMagic wrote...

CynicalShep wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

They managed to pull off ME2 with kinks in their funding, a global financial crisis, and half of the team getting a serious flu (or something). I still have faith they've still "got it".

Whether they pull that off quickly is another issue. Good thing is, a lot of the back end is done (engine).

I always get sick when I work more than 60-70 hrs per week. Fatigue is a mean b*tch.

No, I think they had A1 H1 (swine flu). Can't remember where I heard that though.

I didn't hear anything like that myself. Being overworked does f*ck up your immune system, though.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Heretic_Hanar wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Really? And here I thought a year was 12 months. Interesting that the next game is being 'pumped out' and yet we've yet to hear a thing about it 18 months after ME 3's release.

Hence I said "on it's way to become" and not "already is".

Learn to read.

How dare you insult the messiah!

Actually reading what other people post is for you unheroic slobs!

[Ieldra]

David7204 wrote...
You know, given that you support Synthesis, I'm curious to hear how you think such a thing could ever have worked at all without "pseudomystical crap."

I support the outcome. The implementation does indeed have too much pseudomystical crap.

[NeonFlux117]

Not really.

[Lenimph]

I'm playing it right now. It's called Saints Row IV

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Lenimph wrote...

I'm playing it right now. It's called Saints Row IV

This human understands!

[Dean_the_Young]

EntropicAngel wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I seem to remember a fair amount of pseudomystical crap in ME1 as well.

Let's not forget the first one--this magical beacon that gives Shepard a vision. And of course Sovereign's conversation is always a favorite--pretty much the definition of pseudomystical.

Me? I love the post-Thorian encounter with Shiala, as gives the Asari philosophy mindmeld speach to the backdrop of flames and flickering shadows.

Could they have gone any more with the sacred feminine if they had tried?