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[ziloe]

We all have that friend we think we know so well, and then they disappear for a few years. Whether it's because they've moved, gone travelling, whatever.

Since Hawke's story, it's been roughly 13 years or so since we've seen our old friend (if you include the books timeline). A lot can happen in that time. For my Warden, he raised his child with Morrigan. He became a father. For others, he became king or continued on his adventures elsewhere. Whatever it was, if our Warden appears and is not the same person we once knew, I'm okay with that. People change; they evolve from their experiences. And there's no doubt my warden is close to the time he'd begin to hear the calling, so with the tear in the veil, the blight has come to him and there may be no need to go to the deeproads at all.

Maybe he'll be in our game, and maybe he won't. But if he is, he's gained a lot more experience without me, and I'd just like to see who he's grown to become.

((Discuss))

[RedWulfi]

To keep everyone happy I don't think she Warden should show up... I mean I personally would love that but It's not for everyone.

We also have to think of the voice acting. I can imagine a lot of people screaming "Maker noooo!" Because they never imagined their warden to sound like that.

There is also personality. We would have no control over his/her actions. They might do something when we (the gamers) would have them do otherwise.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Hah my warden have still 200 years as adventurer so he don't care.

But if they put him in game you can count on revan situation where his fate after game is chosen not like you played him for example they may do him warden commander no matter what even if you said in game that is temporary and don't care about wardens or for example if you played as good character now may be gray or dark and vice versa.

[Fast Jimmy]

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

[Taleroth]

My Warden is doing what every great hero in Thedas should be doing.

Strangling Hawke.

[Nightwing99]

AndersIsLush wrote...

To keep everyone happy I don't think she Warden should show up... I mean I personally would love that but It's not for everyone.

We also have to think of the voice acting. I can imagine a lot of people screaming "Maker noooo!" Because they never imagined their warden to sound like that.

There is also personality. We would have no control over his/her actions. They might do something when we (the gamers) would have them do otherwise.

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[ziloe]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

It's not about having the Warden in Inquisition. It's about the idea that if he/she is, and they act differently compared to how I played them, I'm okay with that because a person can evolve a lot in 13 years. Especially one that may now have the mentality of a father, like in my Warden's case.

Modifié par ziloe, 23 août 2013 - 06:12 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

ziloe wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

It's not about having the Warden in Inquisition. It's about the idea that if he/she is, and they act differently compared to how I played them, I'm okay with that because a person can evolve a lot in 13 years. Especially one that may now have the mentality of a father, like in my Warden's case.

It is imposible to make that for everyone ,warden could have many fates and have many personalities one could be warden commander other could leave them and another be prince or queen and now we have personalities warden could be everything from the messiah to psychopath who hurts other for fun so practically their fate and experience depend on their personalities and what they are doing even such things like romancing someone could change warden fate and be different than exactly that same warden who didn't romance that person. So possibilities are endless and if they put him in game many will be disappointed because that not person they played.   

[Phoenix_Fyre]

Ok haven't kept up with the comics

I know from Origins to DA2 is 10...11...years?

So the books/comics take place 2 years post DAII??

[ziloe]

Phoenix_Fyre wrote...

Ok haven't kept up with the comics

I know from Origins to DA2 is 10...11...years?

So the books/comics take place 2 years post DAII??

I'm reading Asunder now, and it's about a year or so since DA2. But with the new book coming out soon, that may also change. I also read somewhere that the next game took place three years later, though, I can't recall where.

[ziloe]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

It's not about having the Warden in Inquisition. It's about the idea that if he/she is, and they act differently compared to how I played them, I'm okay with that because a person can evolve a lot in 13 years. Especially one that may now have the mentality of a father, like in my Warden's case.

It is imposible to make that for everyone ,warden could have many fates and have many personalities one could be warden commander other could leave them and another be prince or queen and now we have personalities warden could be everything from the messiah to psychopath who hurts other for fun so practically their fate and experience depend on their personalities and what they are doing even such things like romancing someone could change warden fate and be different than exactly that same warden who didn't romance that person. So possibilities are endless and if they put him in game many will be disappointed because that not person they played.   

At the end of the day, regardless of how you played your Warden, he/she was a hero. This wasn't a neutral campaign, where you could walk away from the blight. It was a "hero" campaign.

Even with the ME series, you could make Shepard a complete dick, but he was still following the path of good, if not from his own perspective of what good was.

[DeathScepter]

AndersIsLush wrote...

To keep everyone happy I don't think she Warden should show up... I mean I personally would love that but It's not for everyone.

We also have to think of the voice acting. I can imagine a lot of people screaming "Maker noooo!" Because they never imagined their warden to sound like that.

There is also personality. We would have no control over his/her actions. They might do something when we (the gamers) would have them do otherwise.

argeed

[In Exile]

My Warden wouldn't have been Commander of anything. Bioware derailed that character the second they chose to create DA:A.

[TheKomandorShepard]

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

It's not about having the Warden in Inquisition. It's about the idea that if he/she is, and they act differently compared to how I played them, I'm okay with that because a person can evolve a lot in 13 years. Especially one that may now have the mentality of a father, like in my Warden's case.

It is imposible to make that for everyone ,warden could have many fates and have many personalities one could be warden commander other could leave them and another be prince or queen and now we have personalities warden could be everything from the messiah to psychopath who hurts other for fun so practically their fate and experience depend on their personalities and what they are doing even such things like romancing someone could change warden fate and be different than exactly that same warden who didn't romance that person. So possibilities are endless and if they put him in game many will be disappointed because that not person they played.   

At the end of the day, regardless of how you played your Warden, he/she was a hero. This wasn't a neutral campaign, where you could walk away from the blight. It was a "hero" campaign.

Even with the ME series, you could make Shepard a complete dick, but he was still following the path of good, if not from his own perspective of what good was.

You were hero only for public opinion not rly hero http://tvtropes.org/...thGoodPublicity hero is only title like butcher shepard was bio character game in limited way allow you create your character becuse s/he had many own personality traits even game think as renegade shepard care about alliance game only allow you play as renegade or paragon eventually mix of them but you been punished for that.The warden doesn't have much traits outside these we choose.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 23 août 2013 - 07:42 .

[General Malor]

My Warden? He went to visit Par Vollen with Sten, got into an argument there because he was an uncontrolled Mage, messed up a city and ran off with his Mabari, Leliana and Zevran close by before bidding a fond farewell to Sten. Sten promised to tell the Arishok of his valor, and my Warden gave him a recipe for cookies. He heard that after he left the Arishok sent an expedition after him, but they hit a snag in a city called Kirkwall.

After that he told Leliana and Zevran he must do something alone. After venturing off with his trusty Mabari at his side he went to look for the mother of his child. After finding her and realizing she'll never let him see her, despite their past he gets angry and promises that he will find his child, even if he has to kill the Maker himself and raise up all the Old Gods he will find his child.

After a bit of a cool down period he heads around in search for adventure. He couldn't stay at the Circle, and he ended the possibility of Blights with the Architect... he had nothing left but to try to recapture the glory days when their was a Blight to combat. After a time he ran into a fellow Mage who was drunkenly complaining that he was a great hero and should not have to pay his tab. Then my Warden, reminded of Oghren, takes the young man under his wing. Now with the stranger Hawke my Warden is finding some piece of what he once had.

For kicks he thought about opening up the Fade and killing all the demons, because it would be the only thing to match the Blight. But he wouldn't really do that... would he?

[ziloe]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

It's not about having the Warden in Inquisition. It's about the idea that if he/she is, and they act differently compared to how I played them, I'm okay with that because a person can evolve a lot in 13 years. Especially one that may now have the mentality of a father, like in my Warden's case.

It is imposible to make that for everyone ,warden could have many fates and have many personalities one could be warden commander other could leave them and another be prince or queen and now we have personalities warden could be everything from the messiah to psychopath who hurts other for fun so practically their fate and experience depend on their personalities and what they are doing even such things like romancing someone could change warden fate and be different than exactly that same warden who didn't romance that person. So possibilities are endless and if they put him in game many will be disappointed because that not person they played.   

At the end of the day, regardless of how you played your Warden, he/she was a hero. This wasn't a neutral campaign, where you could walk away from the blight. It was a "hero" campaign.

Even with the ME series, you could make Shepard a complete dick, but he was still following the path of good, if not from his own perspective of what good was.

You were hero only for public opinion not rly hero http://tvtropes.org/...thGoodPublicity hero is only title like butcher shepard was bio character game in limited way allow you create your character becuse s/he had many own personality traits even game think as renegade shepard care about alliance game only allow you play as renegade or paragon eventually mix of them but you been punished for that.The warden doesn't have much traits outside these we choose.

And that's just it, when we're not there to guide him or her, they make their own decisions, similar to when our friends disappear somewhere and we can no longer give them advice, etc. When they come back, they may verywell be a different person altogether.

[Maria Caliban]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

Yes. And none of them should have anything to do with DA:I. It's not like there's a forum just for discussion of DA:O or anything.

[TheKomandorShepard]

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Does there really need to be nineteen threads exactly like this all going at once?

It's not about having the Warden in Inquisition. It's about the idea that if he/she is, and they act differently compared to how I played them, I'm okay with that because a person can evolve a lot in 13 years. Especially one that may now have the mentality of a father, like in my Warden's case.

It is imposible to make that for everyone ,warden could have many fates and have many personalities one could be warden commander other could leave them and another be prince or queen and now we have personalities warden could be everything from the messiah to psychopath who hurts other for fun so practically their fate and experience depend on their personalities and what they are doing even such things like romancing someone could change warden fate and be different than exactly that same warden who didn't romance that person. So possibilities are endless and if they put him in game many will be disappointed because that not person they played.   

At the end of the day, regardless of how you played your Warden, he/she was a hero. This wasn't a neutral campaign, where you could walk away from the blight. It was a "hero" campaign.

Even with the ME series, you could make Shepard a complete dick, but he was still following the path of good, if not from his own perspective of what good was.

You were hero only for public opinion not rly hero http://tvtropes.org/...thGoodPublicity hero is only title like butcher shepard was bio character game in limited way allow you create your character becuse s/he had many own personality traits even game think as renegade shepard care about alliance game only allow you play as renegade or paragon eventually mix of them but you been punished for that.The warden doesn't have much traits outside these we choose.

And that's just it, when we're not there to guide him or her, they make their own decisions, similar to when our friends disappear somewhere and we can no longer give them advice, etc. When they come back, they may verywell be a different person altogether.

They can't because that we created them and their personality as i said they can be everywhere from the messiah to psychopath and still one created psychopath can be different than our second psychopath one warden will make that decison other that and another different.And what you expect that psychopath who doesn't care about wardens or ruthless mercenary who care only about money (we can play this way) will start care about wardens?As i said Shepard will always be in alliance and always will care about alliance no matter which we choose renegade or paragon as warden we can rp more than renegade or paragon our warden doesn't have to care about wardens or antything and may leave them.

[Sanunes]

My Warden would be extremely upset and would want to be eating some brains after waking up from his nap in the Mausoleum at Weisshaupt Fortress.

[DarthLaxian]

AndersIsLush wrote...

To keep everyone happy I don't think she Warden should show up... I mean I personally would love that but It's not for everyone.

We also have to think of the voice acting. I can imagine a lot of people screaming "Maker noooo!" Because they never imagined their warden to sound like that.

There is also personality. We would have no control over his/her actions. They might do something when we (the gamers) would have them do otherwise.

Indeed - IMHO he and Hawke can't show up, because as NPCs we don't control them (and even if you take into account that there personality did change, it can never match what we think or would do, if we controlled them) they are not us anymore, so their decisions will not be ours (which IMHO should not happen)

greetings LAX

[Gold Dragon]

I have four canon Wardens.  Of that number, 50% of them will have no possibility of input beyond Origins.

Theron:  Dalish Elf Hunter and the only male Warden, died suspiciously shortly after the events of Awakening.  All that remains of him is a pile of ash.

Kaliana:  City Elf Rogue.  She did not take Morrigan's offer of the Dark Ritual.  She resides in Weisshaupt's mausoleum with the other wardens that did similar sacrifices.

Elyndra Theirin: Human Noblewoman.  Married Alistair and became Queen.  Seldom far from Alistair and their daughter.

Neria Surana:  Elf Mage.  Channcellor of Ferelden.  Travels from Denerim only on business of the state.  Also a mother, but a certain witty assassin is the father, as her child is elven.

I hate dwarves in DA so I don't play as one.  But the above is what Bioware has to contend with should the Warden (who was commander of the Ferelden wardens even in Origins, since there were only two,. and Alistair didn't want the command) should the Warden return.

Easy way to bypass personality problems freom inport into a new game is to make the Warden Playable only.  Not an NPC.   Just saying.

Modifié par A Golden Dragon, 23 août 2013 - 11:03 .

[Nerevar-as]

My Warden Commander has been years grey wardering Ferelden. His missing status is just a long visit to Morrigan and his son he didn´t shout around.

[canarius]

We should definitly have him as the protagonist again for the games after DAI. Hawke was a pretty cool character but he felt so stupid and weak compared to the might and badassness of The Warden.