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[Modius Prime]

Mass Effect 1 is definitely moving in terms of RPG aspects in video games and the introduction of improved aspects within its genre, with improved character interaction and choices/story that actually felt meaningful. I think Mass Effect should be really high, but I'm a little indifferent. I think it should be recognized or having such avid fans, as for its creative development in terms of the universe that BioWare constructed, ect.

[N7 Shadow 90]

Dragon Age is winning by only 4 votes! Very close!
If anyone didn't know, you can hover over the percentage bars to see how many votes each series has.

[DesioPL]

Ehhh fanboys...

[stonbw1]

Hmmm. Bioshock vs. KOTOR will be facing off. Those two could be my personal #1 & #2, respectively, of the last decade.

[N7 Shadow 90]

Dragon Age is falling behind a little.

[Eterna]

FlamingBoy wrote...

well I know who I am voting against

Why do you even post here if that is how you feel? I don't get it, are you like a masochist? 

Modifié par Eterna5, 26 août 2013 - 08:47 .

[Nole]

Eterna5 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

well I know who I am voting against

Why do you even post here if that is how you feel? I don't get it, are you like a masochist? 

Where else can a nerd without a life feel important?

[Riot Inducer]

Kind of strange the games they did choose for this. I mean Geometry wars is a lot of fun but it's still just an arcade game. Also some games seem to be loosing just by virtue of how old they are, Neverwinter Nights newest entry was in 2006, a lot of the voters probably weren't even gaming at that point.

At any rate, for the BioWare entries, it's looking like Neverwinter Nights, and probably mostly due to it's age and the demographics of it's competition. Mass Effect vs. Resident Evil, I think ME has a solid chance to win that one. Likewise Bioshock vs. KOTOR should be interesting. I would like to see the popularity contest of ME vs KOTOR though, who's the favorite BioWare sci-fi game?

[LinksOcarina]

Good thing these arbitrary tourney polls don't matter much in the grand scheme of things.

I remember seeing one from Gamespy which named Diablo II the greatest game ever made, beating out Half-Life, in the final round.

So yeah...good luck and have fun voting.

[N7 Shadow 90]

Just under 10 minutes until round 2. Looks like Dragon Age is gonna lose out.

[Cornughon]

Why is the Witcher series missing anyway?

I love that two of the number #1 X360 franchises have been trampled over

[Ajensis]

Cornughon wrote...

Why is the Witcher series missing anyway?
(...)

Probably because it hasn't existed for a decade yet

I feel bad for Dragon Age, losing out to Dead Space like that. And I wonder if Mass Effect can beat BioShock in the next round?

[Armass81]

Resident Evil? In the state it is now?

All too easy...

[FlamingBoy]

WittingEight65 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

well I know who I am voting against

Why do you even post here if that is how you feel? I don't get it, are you like a masochist? 

Where else can a nerd without a life feel important?

Your both delightful individuals

Yes that was indeed sarcasm

[Cornughon]

Ajensis wrote...

Cornughon wrote...

Why is the Witcher series missing anyway?
(...)

Probably because it hasn't existed for a decade yet

Neither do Gears of War, Portal, Dead Space, 'Souls', Left 4 Dead, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Dead Rising, Forza, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Batman Arkham, Saints Row, Guild Wars, Trials, Resistance, Dragon Age, Company of Heroes, Skylanders, Wii Sports, Little Big Planet, Crysis and DiRT.

So maybe not popular enough then? And maybe it'll change when Witcher 3 sees the light...

[N7 Shadow 90]

Things are going well for ME, but not so much for KOTOR.

[Armass81]

N7 Shadow 90 wrote...

Things are going well for ME, but not so much for KOTOR.

Kotor 2 pretty much took care of that... thanks obsidian.

[shepskisaac]

Armass81 wrote...

N7 Shadow 90 wrote...

Things are going well for ME, but not so much for KOTOR.

Kotor 2 pretty much took care of that... thanks obsidian.

Yes, thx Obsidian for creating the best Star Wars stories ever and one of the very bbest written games in history. Seriously, even the rushed ending can't undermine the strenght of KOTOR2's story & characters. Besides, it's not like with barely 2 entires in the saga KOTOR franchise had much of a chance. And before you say "but Half-Life", let's not forget how much more popular Half-Life has always been and how modding, multiplayer and community has kept it forever alive. KOTOR never had that

[AllThatJazz]

Cornughon wrote...

Ajensis wrote...

Cornughon wrote...

Why is the Witcher series missing anyway?
(...)

Probably because it hasn't existed for a decade yet

Neither do Gears of War, Portal, Dead Space, 'Souls', Left 4 Dead, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Dead Rising, Forza, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, Batman Arkham, Saints Row, Guild Wars, Trials, Resistance, Dragon Age, Company of Heroes, Skylanders, Wii Sports, Little Big Planet, Crysis and DiRT.

So maybe not popular enough then? And maybe it'll change when Witcher 3 sees the light...

Could it be because the first Witcher game was PC only and maybe didn't shift as many copies as equivalent XBox or PS3 exclusives? For 360 players, there has really been only one Witcher game, and that was Witcher 2. And for PS3 players, there is yet to be a Witcher game at all.

Otherwise dunno. Just seen as too much of a niche title, maybe? Like you say, that may change with Witcher 3.

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 02 septembre 2013 - 03:54 .

[AlanC9]

IsaacShep wrote...
Yes, thx Obsidian for creating the best Star Wars stories ever and one of the very bbest written games in history. Seriously, even the rushed ending can't undermine the strenght of KOTOR2's story & characters. Besides, it's not like with barely 2 entires in the saga KOTOR franchise had much of a chance. And before you say "but Half-Life", let's not forget how much more popular Half-Life has always been and how modding, multiplayer and community has kept it forever alive. KOTOR never had that

I mostly agree, but KotOR 2 opens with the most egregious trashing of a previous game's finale that I've ever seen. It's also somewhat hostile to the Star Wars lore, which is a problem if you really, really like SW.

[o Ventus]

GameSpot is a real group of bastards, making me choose between Batman: Arkham and Dead Space.

[shepskisaac]

AlanC9 wrote...

I mostly agree, but KotOR 2 opens with the most egregious trashing of a previous game's finale that I've ever seen. It's also somewhat hostile to the Star Wars lore, which is a problem if you really, really like SW.

As in railroading the good/evil endings into 1 "ohh but then Revan abandoned good/evil thing he did at the end and went to Unknown Regions"? Not like it's not a legitimate complaint, however, it was actually a proto-attempt to not straight out ignore/retcon choices between multiple installements of a franchise.

People love to hate on Mass Effect choices not having big/any consequences in some cases across the trilogy save transfer or barely having a text mention, yet the older RPGs ignored, retconned or canonized 1 version of choices all the time. C&C was often much better executed withing the structure of invidiual games than in mass Effect franchise but as soon as it came to sequels, choices didn't matter. Obsidian clearly attempted to try to change that, and railroading the two main KOTOR 1 endings into one in order to  not completly invalidate either/both was one of the things they did. They also made an in-game quastionare to establish whether Revan was male/female and generic good/evil which created some cutscene and conversation flavour differences later in the game.

So honestly, IMO it was better then what was happening in RPG world before that, even if it still was a form of ignoring the choices.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 02 septembre 2013 - 04:20 .

[SNascimento]

KoTOR2 was great, it has a very interesting take on the Star Wars universe and it was a worth sequel to KoTOR, even if it wasn't as grand.

Modifié par SNascimento, 02 septembre 2013 - 08:00 .

[N7 Shadow 90]

Mass Effect vs Bioshock it is!

[_RT]

IsaacShep wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I mostly agree, but KotOR 2 opens with the most egregious trashing of a previous game's finale that I've ever seen. It's also somewhat hostile to the Star Wars lore, which is a problem if you really, really like SW.

As in railroading the good/evil endings into 1 "ohh but then Revan abandoned good/evil thing he did at the end and went to Unknown Regions"? Not like it's not a legitimate complaint, however, it was actually a proto-attempt to not straight out ignore/retcon choices between multiple installements of a franchise.

People love to hate on Mass Effect choices not having big/any consequences in some cases across the trilogy save transfer or barely having a text mention, yet the older RPGs ignored, retconned or canonized 1 version of choices all the time. C&C was often much better executed withing the structure of invidiual games than in mass Effect franchise but as soon as it came to sequels, choices didn't matter. Obsidian clearly attempted to try to change that, and railroading the two main KOTOR 1 endings into one in order to  not completly invalidate either/both was one of the things they did. They also made an in-game quastionare to establish whether Revan was male/female and generic good/evil which created some cutscene and conversation flavour differences later in the game.

So honestly, IMO it was better then what was happening in RPG world before that, even if it still was a form of ignoring the choices.

So they disregarded the wildly different endings in order to not disregard them? Yeah, makes perfect sense.

KotOR II has a lot of flaws: it's basically unfinished (and no, I don't care who is to blame for that) with a lot of plot threads that go nowhere and the mother of all "Wait, and that's it?" endings and while the writing is good, the story is basically a rip-off of Avellone's own Planescape: Torment. So yeah, best Star Wars game? No way in heaven, hell or purgatory.

Modifié par RT, 02 septembre 2013 - 11:57 .