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[GwenWasTheFirstGaGa]

canarius wrote...

GwenWasTheFirstGaGa wrote...

Morrigan. Morrigan. Morrigan. Why is she the Marcia Brady of DA? What about all the straight lady Wardens? What are their flames up to? No cameo from Zevran? Alistair obviously not because he's tied to his throne. Did all you people seriously fall under the witch's charm and bed her? Sinful.

The character already looks hot. When you add Claudia Black's voice to that, it was very had for my Warden to resist .

So I take it you were immediately turned on by that one Quarian Admiral from ME2 then?

[septembervirgin]

I think it goes without any more statements that the Warden's presence will be felt in the upcoming game. As to whether or not "the Warden" makes an appearance, I don't care but it's just as likely as Hawke making an appearance. I hope we have an opportunity to kill the Warden and Hawke although I doubt that choice will be granted to us.

[Angrywolves]

Never played ME2.
Bet practically all male players who had a male warden romanced Morrigan.
Claudia Black's been around since Farscape.
A long time.
She's got fans.

[Mummy22kids]

GwenWasTheFirstGaGa wrote...

Morrigan. Morrigan. Morrigan. Why is she the Marcia Brady of DA? What about all the straight lady Wardens? What are their flames up to? No cameo from Zevran? Alistair obviously not because he's tied to his throne. Did all you people seriously fall under the witch's charm and bed her? Sinful.

I'm not much for playing male characters if I have a choice, but I did play a male warden once to romance Morrigan.  I liked her character so much as a friend to my female warden that I wanted to try the romance path with her character as well. I think she was very well written and far more complex than just her looks and voice.

[Reidbynature]

Raging Nug wrote...

I don't think it will involve reading into every decision our warden made in order to extrapolate some kind of personality that he can roleplay offscreen.

I never said it would.

[Raging Nug]

Reidbynature wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...

I don't think it will involve reading into every decision our warden made in order to extrapolate some kind of personality that he can roleplay offscreen.

I never said it would.

No, but you did say that some Wardens might react differently to Morrigan's scheme than others despite having followed her through the portal. All I meant to do was illustrate that it might be difficult for David and the others to make that call while also staying true to your interpretation of your character's in-game decisions. ie, you can track the decisions, but not the reasoning for the decisions - at least not without a heavy investment of ressources. 

[KC_Prototype]

I hope to God he is. He is my favorite DA character and I want to see him again. My theory is Flementh has something to do with his and Hawke's disappearance. But the Coryheus theory is a possibility.

[Ieldra]

greekmonkey95 wrote...
If Morrigan is in Dragon Age: Inquisition, it would only make sense if the warden is. My warden went through the Eluvian and raised a child with her. If she shows up and they are not together, that wouldn't make too much sense unless he died somehow. He couldn't really be doing warden business because when he walked through the mirror, he kinda left the wardens for his new family. I really hope Morrigan didn't end up just backstabbing my character and leaving him and taking the child.

The only thing you really know is that your Warden followed Morrigan through the eluvian. What happened after is unknown.

I don't think the Warden will appear, for exactly the reason that if he appears, then it will destroy some people's headcanon and there is no reason to do that because the Warden isn't part of DAI's story. I'm fine with that. There are all sorts of reasons why the Warden may be temporarily absent when we meet Morrigan. There's also the fact that DAI likely won't be able to import the Warden's face from DAO, and if he doesn't look like my Warden I don't want to see him.

What I do expect is that we hear *of* him, in a very vague way that basically says nothing more than he's alive, still doing stuff and maybe that he's still with Morrigan.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 août 2013 - 06:18 .

[Ieldra]

Also, can you really imagine Morrigan living with the Warden and the child like your standard family? I would find this very odd. Disappointing, really. It goes against the reason why I found Morrigan's romance compelling in DAO: that you love each other but each have your own plans which might make it necessary to go your own way for a while before you meet again. Or do you really want to bind your Warden to Morrigan's destiny, in a reversal of the typical role of a protagonist's companion?

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 août 2013 - 06:31 .

[GwenWasTheFirstGaGa]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Also, can you really imagine Morrigan living with the Warden and the child like your standard family? I would find this very odd. Disappointing, really. It goes against the reason why I found Morrigan's romance compelling in DAO: that you love each other but each have your own plans which might make it necessary to go your own way for a while before you meet again. Or do you really want to bind your Warden to Morrigan's destiny, in a reversal of the typical role of a protagonist's companion?

Quick. Everyone create a mental picture of Morrigan in a strawberry pink pin-up dress with white polka dots and matching frilly apron. Pearls around her neck. Pointed white high heels with scarlet red bows. "Welcome home, honey! Supper's on the table! Warden Jr. missed you!"

[Marakov7]

Mummy22kids wrote...

canarius wrote...

I agree with the OP. My Warden would never leave Morrigan. And no he can't be taking care of the baby. My Warden is "The Warden", the most badass character in all of Thedas, he defeated the archdemon and Flemeth, he killed Loghain, he ended the blight, he saved all of Thedas. He is not just some babysitter who would take care of the baby while the mommy is in danger.

Obviously you don't have kids.  Killing the Archdemon?  A cake walk compared to trying to calm a screaming baby at 3am.

My warden and Morrigan's baby cry? Never...he's too tough for that. In my mind, my warden is training the baby how to be a spectacular shield-warrior along with the magic skills the child learned from Morrigan - he'll end up being the Lamborghini of Arcane Warriors...a REAL Battlemage. If Morrigan ever gets in too much danger, the ring will let him know and he can show up if needed...although he is confident she can handle things on her own.

[Reidbynature]

Raging Nug wrote...


No, but you did say that some Wardens might react differently to Morrigan's scheme than others despite having followed her through the portal. All I meant to do was illustrate that it might be difficult for David and the others to make that call while also staying true to your interpretation of your character's in-game decisions. ie, you can track the decisions, but not the reasoning for the decisions - at least not without a heavy investment of ressources. 

I'm not asking for a specific interpretation of the Warden based on every decisin I made in game.  I'm just saying they should recognise the larger decisions like entering the mirror or not destroying Andraste's ashes and act appropriately.  I don't need or want to see a Warden that acts with a nuanced personality that's specifically based on my specific playthrough, but I don't think it's an impossible task to simply recognise some of the more relevant previous decisions made and have that scenario play out.

Unless Bioware are going to put their foot down and do another Leiliana and set one scenario as canon then I don't see why that's such an impossible task.

[In Exile]

Maria Caliban wrote...

So your Warden is just going to abandon his 10-year-old son?

Or are you going to drag along a child when you know the Fade is breached and demons are pouring out?

A real hero is an absentee father. 

[Angrywolves]

People are asking for too much.
Bioware considers the warden and hawke irrelevant now.
They warden isn't off playing house with Morrigan or tending to the OGB.
The warden is nowhere.
Hawke is nowhere .
Maybe someday Gaider will let us know their fates if he is so inclined .
He's under no obligation to do so.
So we might never learned what happened to the warden and hawke.
shrugs.

[The Elder King]

There's nothing to worry folks. The Wardens that left with Morrigan in the Eluvian returned, but met Corypheus and were possessed, and Morrigan is forced to ask the Inquisitor to stop the Warden in the only known way. Killing him.
Something similar happens for every Warden that did the DR. Only the ones who make the US are safe.

[Rolling Flame]

GwenWasTheFirstGaGa wrote...

Morrigan. Morrigan. Morrigan. Why is she the Marcia Brady of DA? What about all the straight lady Wardens? What are their flames up to? No cameo from Zevran? Alistair obviously not because he's tied to his throne. Did all you people seriously fall under the witch's charm and bed her? Sinful.

Some Wardens would rather not die.

[TK514]

hhh89 wrote...

There's nothing to worry folks. The Wardens that left with Morrigan in the Eluvian returned, but met Corypheus and were possessed, and Morrigan is forced to ask the Inquisitor to stop the Warden in the only known way. Killing him.
Something similar happens for every Warden that did the DR. Only the ones who make the US are safe.

i could live with that.  I could also live with Corypheus controlling the Tainted Old God Baby and having it kill the Warden.

[Urazz]

Reidbynature wrote...

Raging Nug wrote...


No, but you did say that some Wardens might react differently to Morrigan's scheme than others despite having followed her through the portal. All I meant to do was illustrate that it might be difficult for David and the others to make that call while also staying true to your interpretation of your character's in-game decisions. ie, you can track the decisions, but not the reasoning for the decisions - at least not without a heavy investment of ressources. 

I'm not asking for a specific interpretation of the Warden based on every decisin I made in game.  I'm just saying they should recognise the larger decisions like entering the mirror or not destroying Andraste's ashes and act appropriately.  I don't need or want to see a Warden that acts with a nuanced personality that's specifically based on my specific playthrough, but I don't think it's an impossible task to simply recognise some of the more relevant previous decisions made and have that scenario play out.

Unless Bioware are going to put their foot down and do another Leiliana and set one scenario as canon then I don't see why that's such an impossible task.

Pretty much what I feel.  They should pretty much recognize the larger decisions like going with Morrigan into the mirror.  Hell, an explanation like the Warden is watching the OGB while Morrigan is doing her thing in DA:I is a good enough answer for me.

[sandalisthemaker]

Didn't Morrigan repeatedly say she was going to leave your Warden? Why would you expect them to be together?
To Morrigan, power and her agenda > love.

Not everyone romanced her anyway, you know.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 25 août 2013 - 12:59 .

[GwenWasTheFirstGaGa]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Didn't Morrigan repeatedly say she was going to leave your Warden? Why would you expect them to be together?
To Morrigan, power and her agenda > love.

Not everyone romanced her anyway, you know.

When she confessed her mother's past and motives to you, that should have been the red flag moment where you get the hell out of dodge. 

[Angrywolves]

Doesn't matter anymore anyway.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Didn't Morrigan repeatedly say she was going to leave your Warden? Why would you expect them to be together?

To Morrigan, power and her agenda > love.

Not everyone romanced her anyway, you know.

Well, she had her chance at the Eluvian mirror. Morrigan could have entered it and the Warden would have been helpless to stop her from leaving forever. She waited on him, though. And it makes sense on a practical level to stay with him: he is powerful in his own right, and having him at her side will help further her agenda.

As to the OP: I think they should just keep that open-ended. The Warden is not going to be part of the game, anyway, so I rather they leave it to us as to why, as opposed to contriving something cheap (dead) or out-of-character for a reason.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 25 août 2013 - 02:53 .

[Magdalena11]

Angrywolves wrote...

People are asking for too much.
Bioware considers the warden and hawke irrelevant now.
They warden isn't off playing house with Morrigan or tending to the OGB.
The warden is nowhere.
Hawke is nowhere .
Maybe someday Gaider will let us know their fates if he is so inclined .
He's under no obligation to do so.
So we might never learned what happened to the warden and hawke.
shrugs.

This.

Morrigan, if she's got any sense (and she has,) left the OGB in the care of an anonymous and responsible family who has raised the child as their own in the Arthurian tradition.  It is only when he reaches adulthood that the secret of his origin will be discovered and thus DA5, the end of an age.

Really, folks, Morrigan never intended to have children, let alone raise them.  The warden has other stuff on his mind and fades to black.  Maybe he's stuck forever pursuing his lost love or whatever.  His story is told.  If the warden was female even more reason.  Alistair's got a lot on his mind with the kingdom and all and Loghain's an old man, or alternatively either is dead.

Morrigan exists in her own right other than as the mother of a potential OGB.  Obviously, she's still got a story to tell and I'm looking forward to hearing what it is.

Hawke's story is also told.  His or her struggles ended when the final conflict with the mages and templars began and we should grant them their retirement.  They've both earned it.

[canarius]

GwenWasTheFirstGaGa wrote...

canarius wrote...

GwenWasTheFirstGaGa wrote...

Morrigan. Morrigan. Morrigan. Why is she the Marcia Brady of DA? What about all the straight lady Wardens? What are their flames up to? No cameo from Zevran? Alistair obviously not because he's tied to his throne. Did all you people seriously fall under the witch's charm and bed her? Sinful.

The character already looks hot. When you add Claudia Black's voice to that, it was very had for my Warden to resist .

So I take it you were immediately turned on by that one Quarian Admiral from ME2 then?

Well, she had the voice but we cant know what she looks like behind that mask.

[Alex1412]

My warden followed her through the eluvian, but I honestly think that she ended up ditching him and I'm ok with that, because I always felt that she had her own stuff, her own story, her own DESTINY, Morrigan/Warden relationship feelt kinda "our destinies are intertwined but never joined".

Whether my Warden has been kidnapped, is raising the now boy or dead, doesn't matter, either Gaider will give us some closure and i trust the guy or everything will be left to headcanons, im also cool with that.