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[Angrywolves]

Obviouly a lot of male players liked Morrigan .
She's the prototypical bad girl nerdy type guys would have liked to have lost their virginity to.
The way she walks as she discusses the dr with the warden is very sexy, at least for me.
Whether we see more of that in DAI remains to be seen.
I feel Gaider has sort of reversed himself on the OGB for PLAYERS WHO PERFORMED THE DARK RITUAL.
I expect we'll learn more about OGB than we thought we would.

[Phoenix_Loftian]

Nerevar-as wrote...

AelixVII wrote...

Erm, hang on a sec. I'm pretty sure I remember Morrigan saying the Warden shouldn't think of the OGB as an actual child or anything like that. That part of him was destroyed as soon as the Archdemon was. He's more of a tool in whatever she is ultimately planning. For my Warden, he was the key to staying alive to continue his life with his LI however he pleased.

In Witch Hunt she comments he´s an innocent boy, and he´s being taken care of.

There´s also another possibility, sleeping with Morrigan but refusing DR results too in getting her pregnant with a normal baby. I´m a bit surprised she both had and kept him though.

Why? Morrigan isn't a monster. If anything, it's Leliana for being a Chantry plant and lying to the Warden throughout the entire Origins story. Even the part about Orlais and Marjoline was a bunch of half-truths. First opportunity I get, I'm gutting her. 

[TheKomandorShepard]

Phoenix_Loftian wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

AelixVII wrote...

Erm, hang on a sec. I'm pretty sure I remember Morrigan saying the Warden shouldn't think of the OGB as an actual child or anything like that. That part of him was destroyed as soon as the Archdemon was. He's more of a tool in whatever she is ultimately planning. For my Warden, he was the key to staying alive to continue his life with his LI however he pleased.

In Witch Hunt she comments he´s an innocent boy, and he´s being taken care of.

There´s also another possibility, sleeping with Morrigan but refusing DR results too in getting her pregnant with a normal baby. I´m a bit surprised she both had and kept him though.

Why? Morrigan isn't a monster. If anything, it's Leliana for being a Chantry plant and lying to the Warden throughout the entire Origins story. Even the part about Orlais and Marjoline was a bunch of half-truths. First opportunity I get, I'm gutting her. 

Well i don't think that she was spying through origins it wouldn't make sense marjolene watched she received any messages or even leave and she spend there 2 years because everyone knows her there including hawke , carver , bethany and aveline.Now devs have to confirm whether leliana song was that what's actually happening or just changed by leliana version of events. 

[Xenomorphine]

canarius wrote...

I agree with the OP. My Warden would
never leave Morrigan. And no he can't be taking care of the baby. My
Warden is "The Warden", the most badass character in all of Thedas, he
defeated the archdemon and Flemeth, he killed Loghain, he ended the
blight, he saved all of Thedas. He is not just some babysitter who would
take care of the baby while the mommy is in danger.

And Morrigan is Morrigan. No matter how awesomely badass you think your character was (who was a Grey Warden for less time than Alistair), they'll never be Flemeth... And if Morrigan is willing to do whatever it takes to stand up to her, your character is relatively trivial by comparison.

Morrigan does as she pleases because she can. Independence is what she values, above all other things. Even if she evolves (or devolves, depending on your points of view) into a person who comes to fall in love with someone, she will never surrender that basic principle.

Besides which, we have no idea how time functions on the other side of that portal. For all we know, Morrigan could be several thousands of years old by now - and your character long since having turned to dust. She did warn you not to follow her through, after all.

Angrywolves wrote...

Never played ME2.
Bet practically all male players who had a male warden romanced Morrigan.
Claudia Black's been around since Farscape.
A long time.
She's got fans.

A lot of them did, but it's more to do with her being the 'seductive, attractive female' option. The bard symbolised more of an obvious romance. Most male players were probably casual gamers and they would have got into that game by way of the hype about combat. They'd be mostly interested in casual sex with a 'hot witch' who's pretty much offering it up on a platter.

It helps that Claudia does awesome voice acting (and how I wish Admiral Xen had played a bigger part in a certain other game series), but witch and bard could have had their respective actors switch places and most male gamers would've probably still gone down that road. Especially with an awful lot of them being teenagers, too.

As for me, my characters never did any romances.

sandalisthemaker wrote...

Didn't Morrigan repeatedly say she was going to leave your Warden? Why would you expect them to be together?
To Morrigan, power and her agenda > love.

Not everyone romanced her anyway, you know.

It may not be her agenda she's following. Remember how she stops herself after beginning to say, "What I want is..." Whatever the reasons for the ritual, it seems to be an obligation she's under. A much larger picture.

Lord Raijin wrote...

You are the mother of
my son and therefor you are my wife.

That would be the point when Morrigan halts your character and reminds them, in her sharp-witted way, of her views about marriage, yes? 

I was happy to see that Morrigan will be in DA3. Why? Because It gives my PC Inquisitor an opportunity to confront her at where shes stashed my wardens 10 year old son at, and force her to disclose his location.

One does not simply force Morrigan to do anything.

Whatever you think you can do to her, Flemeth's undoubtedly threatened, arranged or even done a lot worse.

Modifié par Xenomorphine, 28 août 2013 - 08:24 .

[artsangel]

There's no reason why the Inquisitor would even be aware of any OGB, and therefore would have zero reason to ask Morrigan about it. Anyone who hopes to be able to confront her about it better check their expectations.

[Ieldra]

@Xenomorphine:
Thank you for being one of the few who don't want to downsize Morrigan.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 28 août 2013 - 01:11 .

[Annihilator27]

I would like to see Morrigan and my Warden together again. I went through the mirror as well....and then left for the bachelor life!!

[CynicalShep]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Also, can you really imagine Morrigan living with the Warden and the child like your standard family? I would find this very odd. Disappointing, really. It goes against the reason why I found Morrigan's romance compelling in DAO: that you love each other but each have your own plans which might make it necessary to go your own way for a while before you meet again. Or do you really want to bind your Warden to Morrigan's destiny, in a reversal of the typical role of a protagonist's companion?

Can you imagine Morrigan dating someone? Can you imagine her making confessions to someone or, an even crazier concept - can you imagine her revealing her agenda/plans to anyone? Me neither.
Everything is impossible until it's been done once. I've seen more ruthless people become "domesticated" in RL. Not saying she's the "kitchen" type but I don't see why you think 'tis impossible.

[xarthas2]

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[Jaulen]

canarius wrote...

I agree with the OP. My Warden would never leave Morrigan. And no he can't be taking care of the baby. My Warden is "The Warden", the most badass character in all of Thedas, he defeated the archdemon and Flemeth, he killed Loghain, he ended the blight, he saved all of Thedas. He is not just some babysitter who would take care of the baby while the mommy is in danger.

See....now my canon non-dead warden made a promise to hunt her down.....and make sure Alistair's baby isn't up to no good.

Another Warden slept with Morrigan, but didn't do the DR, died, Morrigan was seen in the mountains with child (no OG baby for her!!!).....imported him into Morrigan DLC (being dead and all was kind of funny) and didn't go with her.

Another warden didn't sleep with Morrigan, didn't do the DR, and didn't do the Morrigan DLC, a mage fitting her description was seen at the court in Orlais....

So I don't have a Warden that 'would never leave Morrigan's side'.....and I don't care that if Morrigan is there that we see the Warden.....the Warden and Hawke have disappeared....I'm okay with that.
 
And the kid now would be around 10 years old, old enough to be a Thedas latch-key kid.


And @xenomorphine's post *nods and claps* well put.

Modifié par Jaulen, 28 août 2013 - 04:51 .

[Jaulen]

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Why would the Warden even come up in conversation with Morrigan? Will she look directly at the screen and say "hey grrl, I know wassup" before talking about how manly and proficient a lover The Warden is? Or would she care to mention that she's got a child with the soul of an Old God? Why would she tell the Inquisitor (or anyone in Orlais) any of this?

As cool as it'd be to get a cameo for the Warden, or for her to name drop the Warden, I don't see how or why they would. There's no real justification for it. She's in Orlais, working in the Empress's court (most likely speculation anyhow), and it's full of thieves, bandits, murderers, and even worse, politicians. Why would she share anything truthful about herself to any of them, let alone she's a mage?

My guess is if she mentions the OGB or the Warden at all, it'll be in a passing, vague comment that only people who played Origins would get. I just don't see how or why she'd tell anyone anything about her family (if she has one in your game).

^This x100

[Thresh the Qunari]

didn't they say the grey wardens where up to something.the first thing i thought was the warden had something to do with it.

[Angrywolves]

uh no.
Tired of having to say this but Bioware considers the warden irrelevant .
Maybe someday we'll learn the warden's fate.
Flemeth never had to threaten Morrigan.
She has precognition, she knew what Morrigan would do before Morrigan decides to do it.
So while Morrigan manipulates her way through Orlesian society to satisfy her own ambitions she's somehow unbeknowst to Morrigan satisfying Flemeth's ambitions as well.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Angrywolves wrote...

Obviouly a lot of male players liked Morrigan .
She's the prototypical bad girl nerdy type guys would have liked to have lost their virginity to.
The way she walks as she discusses the dr with the warden is very sexy, at least for me.
Whether we see more of that in DAI remains to be seen.
I feel Gaider has sort of reversed himself on the OGB for PLAYERS WHO PERFORMED THE DARK RITUAL.
I expect we'll learn more about OGB than we thought we would.

The idea of impregnating a woman sounds very sexy to you?

[In Exile]

canarius wrote...

I agree with the OP. My Warden would  never leave Morrigan. And no he can't be taking care of the baby. My  Warden is "The Warden", the most badass character in all of Thedas, he  defeated the archdemon and Flemeth, he killed Loghain, he ended the  blight, he saved all of Thedas. He is not just some babysitter who would take care of the baby while the mommy is in danger.

Women are not property. Maybe Morrigan wants to be left alone to do her own thing. 

[Merengues 1945]

Well, assuming the warden survived, I'm sure he will make an appearance.... I dont' think Morrigan killed the warden if he crossed the Eluvian, in order to do so, you need the full romance (banging her + killing flemeth + giving her a child). Morrigan it's selfish and evil, but she is loyal if you take the time to befriend her, so I'm sure the warden will be back.

In the end, he or she must be back (provided that the ritual was done or Alistair/Loghain gave the final blow to the archdemon), there can't be no damned world war with the top players in the bench.

[BlueMagitek]

Why does the Warden care at all about what's going on outside Ferelden? There's even less motivation for a Dwarf Warden (surfacers have been proven to be mad as a blighted duster and should be avoided).

Also, for all you know, the Warden is doing something - in Ferelden or near the Ferelden borders.

In Exile wrote...
Women are not property. Maybe Morrigan wants to be left alone to do her own thing.

Well considering the Warden basically told her mother that Morrigan wanted her dead, returned and told Morrigan the truth, let Loghain take the final blow and then stab-stabbitied her through a mirror, I imagine they are on less than pleasant terms. :/

[Angrywolves]

The way Morrigan walked was sexy.
I have children one turned 18 a few months back, the other is 26 years old.
So I know what impregnation does.
rotfl.