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Big step backwards, but hey people round here wont be happy till DA is just Witcher light with no actual individuality, so what ever

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MerchantGOL wrote...

Big step backwards, but hey people round here wont be happy till DA is just Witcher light with no actual individuality, so what ever


Implying that Elves are only in the Witcher

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[quote]AresKeith wrote...

[quote]MerchantGOL wrote...

Big step backwards, but hey people round here wont be happy till DA is just Witcher light with no actual individuality, so what ever[/quote]

Implying that Elves are only in the Witcher

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I was referrign to more then elves, But elves are just the major thign i see people want tot go back to being generic.

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The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

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The main thing I hated about the DA2 elves wasn't their ugly faces (I actually like Skyrim elf faces despite them being ugly) but their bodies. The shoulders were way too narrow, especially on the females where the head-to-shoulder width was comparable to a toddler's. The necks were way too long and yet they were very thick when compared to the arms, legs, and body. It just didn't mesh well and looked like an unnatural failure. I would much rather keep "beautiful humans with pointy ears and no facial/body hair" than a light bulb with fish eyes on a stick body.

It's different from the usual but that doesn't make it unique, it's an almost straight ripoff of Avatar, just done very badly.

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AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Modifié par MerchantGOL, 29 août 2013 - 04:33 .


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MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB

Modifié par cjones91, 29 août 2013 - 04:36 .


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cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.

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MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.

But why can't be there a middle ground like what DA:I is doing?Also Zevran had a major case of uncanney valley and butterface,if my Elven Female Mage Warden saw what he looked like in DA2 then she would find some sort of spell to change him back.

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MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.


Yea because having elves look like what they are (humans with pointy ears) is a bad thing

When you have dwarves who are nothing but small humans <_<

And Zervran suffered the same issue as the other DA2 elves

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AresKeith wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.


Yea because having elves look like what they are (humans with pointy ears) is a bad thing

When you have dwarves who are nothing but small humans <_<

And Zervran suffered the same issue as the other DA2 elves

I've asked that question many times yet received no answer.

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AresKeith wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.


Yea because having elves look like what they are (humans with pointy ears) is a bad thing


It is a a bad thign cause thats not what they are. They are a diffrent race.


When you have dwarves who are nothing but small humans



They arent that ether, their bone structures and head structures are clearly diffrent. almost all Dwarves have more bulbus noses, and smaller eyes, they all look distinct, they don't just look like a short human they have a unique phisiology.

Modifié par MerchantGOL, 29 août 2013 - 04:48 .


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MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.


Yea because having elves look like what they are (humans with pointy ears) is a bad thing


It is a a bad thign cause thats not what they are. They are a diffrent race.


If they were a completely different race then elves would'nt be able to breed with humans and have children.

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cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.

But why can't be there a middle ground like what DA:I is doing?

It dosen't look like a middle ground to me.

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cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.


Yea because having elves look like what they are (humans with pointy ears) is a bad thing


It is a a bad thign cause thats not what they are. They are a diffrent race.


If they were a completely different race then elves would'nt be able to breed with humans and have children.

/magic dood magic, whent hey breed with a human it results in a human, not a highbrid.

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cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.


Yea because having elves look like what they are (humans with pointy ears) is a bad thing


It is a a bad thign cause thats not what they are. They are a diffrent race.


If they were a completely different race then elves would'nt be able to breed with humans and have healthy children.

fixed.

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I'm fairly satisfied with Elves. But Dwarves really shine the most.

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MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.

But why can't be there a middle ground like what DA:I is doing?

It dosen't look like a middle ground to me.

How so?Their facial structure looks completely different and there is this strange glow to their eyes that makes the elves look exotic.

You don't have to turn them into mutants in order for elves to look different which is something some people seem to be obessed over.

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cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.

But why can't be there a middle ground like what DA:I is doing?

It dosen't look like a middle ground to me.

How so?Their facial structure looks completely different and there is this strange glow to their eyes that makes the elves look exotic.

You don't have to turn them into mutants in order for elves to look different which is something some people seem to be obessed over.

there facial structure looks just like a human, and the "glow" is barley noticble.

They didn't look like mutants they just looked distincly non human, they looked better when they didn't look like every other elf in fiction.

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MerchantGOL wrote...

It is a a bad thign cause thats not what they are. They are a diffrent race.


When you have dwarves who are nothing but small humans



They arent that ether, their bone structures and head structures are clearly diffrent. almost all Dwarves have more bulbus noses, and smaller eyes, they all look distinct, they don't just look like a short human they have a unique phisiology.


Being a different race doesn't change anything, Elves has always been referred to as "humans with pointy ears" in certain setting

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MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

cjones91 wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

The elves don't look generic, they look like a medium between DAO and DA2

They were terribly designed in DA2

They look like generic elves dood.

In Da2 they looked alien but still pretty (merril & zev)

Why must they look alien in order to not be generic?And DA2 Zevran was butt ugly.Image IPB


They don't havee to look alien but it was a good way to not look generic, 

zev looked fine.


Yea because having elves look like what they are (humans with pointy ears) is a bad thing


It is a a bad thign cause thats not what they are. They are a diffrent race.


If they were a completely different race then elves would'nt be able to breed with humans and have children.

/magic dood magic, whent hey breed with a human it results in a human, not a highbrid.

 Human/Elf hybrid have slightly pointed ear.The point is elves can have children with humans which means they aren't that different biologically.

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MerchantGOL wrote...


They didn't look like mutants they just looked distincly non human, they looked better when they didn't look like every other elf in fiction.



Image IPB

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How so?Their facial structure looks completely different and there is this strange glow to their eyes that makes the elves look exotic.

You don't have to turn them into mutants in order for elves to look different which is something some people seem to be obessed over.[/quote] there facial structure looks just like a human, and the "glow" is barley noticble.

They didn't look like mutants they just looked distincly non human, they looked better when they didn't look like every other elf in fiction.
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What is with this obsesssion with making DA elves more "special" than other elves?Why not complain about humans or dwarves,hell why not complain about dragons?Why single out elves when those three are just as generic?

Modifié par BioWareMod05, 29 août 2013 - 06:38 .


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Human/Elf hybrid have slightly pointed ear.The point is elves can have children with humans which means they aren't that different biologically.[/quote]since when?

Allister Dosen't , the kid in DA2 didn;t.

Biolgicaly dosen't mean any thign since its magic, it has been stated that there ofspring aren't hybrids, they are human, Elves are/were beings of magic, there genetics are only magic if ther epure, if you dilute it with human blood all you get is a human.

Modifié par BioWareMod05, 29 août 2013 - 06:31 .


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What is with this obsesssion with making DA elves more "special" than other elves?Why not complain about humans or dwarves,hell why not complain about dragons?Why single out elves when those three are just as generic?[/quote] DAO did a real good job at makign the dwarves unique Culturaly and Phiscaly, dragons could be an issue, but here just beasts to kill not a race we actualy interact with. Humans by there nature need to be gneric so we can relate to them.

Modifié par BioWareMod05, 29 août 2013 - 06:34 .