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[Nerevar-as]

If by distinct you mean looking like there has been too much interbreeding going on, I guess the DA2 elves were.

[UltraManLeo]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Look at the bone structure of the head in the different pictures. Elves are distinct. What they aren't any more is ugly. I guess some might see that alone as becoming too human again, but I think it's a vast improvement over DA2's design.

i fully agree with this. the point of the redesign for inquisition is to make them look somewhat in the middle of the origins  and dragon age 2 design, which i support. i think most people can agree that the elves from dragon age 2 were a bit over the top..

[Ozzy]

Let's try and make this more coherent... 

I understand why Bioware wanted to give elves a more distinct look and move away from the whole 'humans with pointy ears' thing that was repeatedly brought up. The thing is, appearance wise, elves are essentially humans with pointy ears when talking about traditional sources. They're just like us with certain aspects that make them more majestic and alien. These aspects are usually related moreso to their behaviours and demeanour. 
 
I recall in one of the early dev diaries for Origins that Bioware stated that they wanted to bring these recognisable, fantasy archetypes into their world and then subvert our expectations of them. They've succeeded in that endeavour for the most part. Considering that they wanted to bring these recognisable groups into the game, there was no need for the drastic redesign that occured in DA2. They really could have just continued with their original approach that was presented in their early videos. 

Modifié par AstusOz, 24 août 2013 - 02:38 .

[Magdalena11]

osbornep wrote...

I think it would have been interesting if DA had, from the get-go, gone with something like the DA2 look for elves (or something similarly strange-looking), and then had the in-universe perspective among the people of Thedas be that elves were, in fact, ugly rather than beautiful. Cultural standards of beauty tend to reflect the interests of the more privileged social groups, so it stands to reason that the people who are stereotyped as being associated with violence and poverty would also be regarded as having the less desirable physical features. Also, it would make the elves-as-oppressed minority angle a better challenge to the player's commitment to liberal values like equality and toleration. After all, it's much easier to be sympathetic to beautiful natives (*cough* Avatar *cough*) than to folks you find to be rather homely.

There have always been people who find the exotic attractive, regardless of society's conception of attractive.  In The Stolen Throne, Maric realizes why some people are attracted to elves, with their alien eyes (by alien I mean strange.)  By that I infer that not everyone felt that way.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Sorry but If my PC is going to be an elf, I do NOT want to look like DA2's version of elf at all.

[Tarek]

they looked like crap in DA2

[Reidbynature]

 DA:I elves are a big improvement over DA2's mutant giraffes.  Now let's never mention those abominations again. 

[Gileadan]

DA:I elves are three steps forward - one from DA:O and two from DA2.

[Nefla]

If elves were going to be ugly from the start, I would have been fine with it. If the lore had said they were twisted and deformed I wouldn't have thought twice about the Da2 designs but they were always supposed to be "beautiful." DA2 elves never seemed original to me either, they looked like the artist was trying to capitalize on the popularity of Avatar and probably anime as well but the results weren't good. Also elves and humans can breed and create viable offspring so of course they should be more similar. You can't have babies with something that is very different such as a horse+deer.

[Ianamus]

I don't think Dragon Age 2's stylised elves would have worked with Inquisitions more realistic graphics. That coupled with the fact that they need to look appealing if they are going to be playable race meant they needed to be changed.

Modifié par EJ107, 24 août 2013 - 02:49 .

[Deverz]

DA2 elves looked like malnourished aliens. DAI is a big step forward, imo.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

a Step Forward:

[CaptainBlackGold]

I think the new look is a great step forward. Personal tastes aside, it shows that the Devs listened to the multiple complaints about how the elves looked in DA2 and have tried to respond to their fans.

Their new design for elves have guarenteed a pre-order from me because it shows that they are learning, they are responding to legitimate criticism and therefore, if they carry this through other aspects, this game just might be the best of the three.

[Huntress]

DA2 elves looked Fungly.
they should go back to DAO style or J. R. R. Tolkien style.

and like others have said I want them to use shoes.

[werewoof]

i still liked the da2 design. it was awkward but thats kind of why i liked it, they looked like a different race rather than just pretty pointy eared people. and yeah thats the original myth or whatever but that hardly means theres no room for innovation. ive said it plenty of times but i am not a fan of the lotr look of the new ones, but they are an improvement over da:o (although origins had wonky graphics all around) and its good to see theyre listening to their fans. so even if i personally dont like it much, its a good sign for bioware.

that being said i dont quite get the whining over the elves not wearing shoes. it makes sense for the dalish at least, cultural things, etc.

[Jorji Costava]

Magdalena11 wrote...

osbornep wrote...

I think it would have been interesting if DA had, from the get-go, gone with something like the DA2 look for elves (or something similarly strange-looking), and then had the in-universe perspective among the people of Thedas be that elves were, in fact, ugly rather than beautiful. Cultural standards of beauty tend to reflect the interests of the more privileged social groups, so it stands to reason that the people who are stereotyped as being associated with violence and poverty would also be regarded as having the less desirable physical features. Also, it would make the elves-as-oppressed minority angle a better challenge to the player's commitment to liberal values like equality and toleration. After all, it's much easier to be sympathetic to beautiful natives (*cough* Avatar *cough*) than to folks you find to be rather homely.

There have always been people who find the exotic attractive, regardless of society's conception of attractive.  In The Stolen Throne, Maric realizes why some people are attracted to elves, with their alien eyes (by alien I mean strange.)  By that I infer that not everyone felt that way.

Interesting. I haven't read The Stolen Throne myself (or any of the expanded universe material), but my understanding was that elves are widely considered attractive in Thedas. I remember Zevran saying something about this being the reason why the Antivan Crows heavily recruit elves, for instance.

[drake heath]

If anything in DA2 was a "step forward" than it was a step forward off a cliff, because hardly anything in that game was worth keeping for DA3.

[RogueWriter3201]

Have to throw me meager two cents behind those not completely thrilled with the design change from Dragon Age 2 to Inquisition in regards to the Elves. Their DA2 design set them apart from humans and even gave them the appearance of having a distinctly different evolutionary origin, feline or perhaps even avian. That was a brilliant choice.

And, no, contrary to some they weren't all ugly (just because you didn't like the design or how Zevran looked, don't be myopic). Some were unattractive, yes; but that should go for any race with humanoid characteristics. Honestly, it makes less sense for them to be a race of impossibly beautiful people (ala Tolkien) and have them be depicted as often reviled second class citizens.

Were they a race of perfect beauty or incredibly similar to humans except with pointed ears, having humans ostracize them at every turn seems far less logical in the context of the Dragon Age Universe. The Dragon Age 2 design gave their stance in human society and the world far more substance and believability.

Modifié par glenboy24, 24 août 2013 - 04:29 .

[dado500]

As long as they're not anorexic I am happy.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Get out!

[Cainhurst Crow]

Da2 set them apart from humans? Set them apart how? They still look like short, pointy eared humans. Only now the majority of them look like ugly, short, cartoonishly pointy eared humans. If they had looked like the more finished characters lime merril, fenris, even zevren, than I wouldn't care at all, the redesign would have barly altered anything and made them look more stylized like the eest of the artwork.

But no, instead, we have this.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

No.

[TheChris92]

Heck no - I think their design is a vast improvement over the DA2 elves.

Modifié par TheChris92, 24 août 2013 - 04:53 .

[dreamgazer]

Yes, they took a step back. From ridiculousness.

The elves' redesign looks like a solid fusion of the first two games, distinct but appealing. I approve.

[fchopin]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Though... I don't really get why one would be passionate about the way elves look.

Because we want to play an elf in DAI and if they look like DA2 elf's then no person will play them. I don't play ugly bones.