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[Zu Long]

1. That the disappearance of the Warden and Hawke will either be addressed not at all, or will be addressed in a summary and unsatisfying manner. (i.e. were killed off screen).

2. That those who prefer the possibility of best of all worlds outcome (a happy ending, as it were) will be ignored in favor of "artistry" as we were in ME3.

[Obrusnine]

Zu Long wrote...
That those who prefer the possibility of best of all worlds outcome (a happy ending, as it were) will be ignored in favor of "artistry" as we were in ME3.

Having to experience something like that again would kill me on the inside.

Why not just indirectly ask the player how they prefer a story to end? Then we have the best of both worlds...

[Zu Long]

Obrusnine wrote...

Zu Long wrote...
That those who prefer the possibility of best of all worlds outcome (a happy ending, as it were) will be ignored in favor of "artistry" as we were in ME3.

Having to experience something like that again would kill me on the inside.

Why not just indirectly ask the player how they prefer a story to end? Then we have the best of both worlds...

No kidding. 

I always thought whether or not Shepard died at the end of ME3 should depend on a dialogue decision during the conversations with your squadmate. They would ask Shepard if, in her heart, she really thought she was coming back from this mission. Shepard's response would determine what ending you got. It would allow the player the ability to tailor the ending as they wished.

Obviously, there were other problems with ME3's ending, but that sounds like the kind of thing you're talking about.

[Obrusnine]

It indeed was. Obviously the player would answer that question with what they would want from the ending. If they want to respect the gravity of the situation then they obviously prefer endings that come at a significant cost, if they don't then they obviously want sunshine and roses (which is my preference).

I would prefer it to be a bit more direct then that though, just to make sure. Like one of the characters asking you how you like a book to end. In the example of Dragon Age, Varric could come up to you and ask.

"How do you like your endings? Do you like them sad or happy?"

Obviously with more body to it but you get the gist. It would just feel so much better to get the kind of ending I want. I want a happy ending where after everything that my character has been through he gets what he wants in the end. You know, gets the girl/guy, gets married if they like, bla bla bla. To provide even more custom tailoring to the ending, it would be great if your LI or someone else would also ask you other indirect questions about what you were going to do when this was over, are you going to get married, have kids, etc. etc.

Speaking of kids I think it's a colossal injustice that after all of the sleeping with other people in Bioware games that not once has a child actually been directly bought into the equation... And I don't just mean the god-child you could possibly have with Morrigan, which I think will see interesting conclusion in this game, but what about everyone else. Why doesn't my Queen character have an heir with Alistair (which it annoys me is the only LI you can actually MARRY so far), or get married and have children with Leliana.

[Zu Long]

Speaking of kids I think it's a colossal injustice that after all of the sleeping with other people in Bioware games that not once has a child actually been directly bought into the equation... And I don't just mean the god-child you could possibly have with Morrigan, which I think will see interesting conclusion in this game, but what about everyone else. Why doesn't my Queen character have an heir with Alistair (which it annoys me is the only LI you can actually MARRY so far), or get married and have children with Leliana.

In the case of Queen/Alistair, I think it was specifically stated that Grey Wardens are less "potent" in terms of creating children and that it was only Morrigan's preparations plus the fact that she isn't a Grey Warden that let anyone conceive with her. A child by two Grey Wardens would be nearly impossible. That doesn't mean there's any reason a child couldn't have been adopted though. Until Bioware decided the Warden has disappeared, I always figured that my warden and Lelianna had done just that. There would have been no shortage of war orphans running around after the Blight, that's for sure.

Modifié par Zu Long, 26 août 2013 - 04:06 .

[Obrusnine]

Zu Long wrote...

Speaking of kids I think it's a colossal injustice that after all of the sleeping with other people in Bioware games that not once has a child actually been directly bought into the equation... And I don't just mean the god-child you could possibly have with Morrigan, which I think will see interesting conclusion in this game, but what about everyone else. Why doesn't my Queen character have an heir with Alistair (which it annoys me is the only LI you can actually MARRY so far), or get married and have children with Leliana.

I think in the case of Queen/Alistair, I think it was specifically stated that Grey Wardens are less "potent" in terms of creating children and that it was only Morrigan's preparations plus the fact that she isn't a Grey Warden that let anyone conceive with her. A child by two Grey Wardens would be nearly impossible. That doesn't mean there's any reason a child couldn't have been adopted though. Until Bioware decided the Warden has disappeared, I always figured that my warden and Lelianna had done just that. There would have been no shortage of war orphans running around after the Blight, that's for sure.

Actually I thought something along those lines too. But I just replayed through Dragon Age Origins recently, and I was actually searching for a mention of that. But I think it was just an assumption, because at no point did someone say anything like that.

I mean, the Warden has a kid with Morrigan after all depending on your choices.

I just looked it up and Gaider apparently says "normally" a child between two Grey Wardens is impossible (but that Grey Warden's were not entirely sterile, just that it was more difficult), probably meaning that magic can cut through such problems. Considering Alistar is the King of Fereldan, I don't think it would be two hard for the Circle or some hired mage to fix that problem for them.

Apparently Alistar also hints to something at some point, but I swear I cannot remember that so I find it weird. Maybe we'll get a clearer answer on this at some point.

Either way I see no reason my FemHawke and Anders can't have kids, haha

Especially considering they're both mages.

Modifié par Obrusnine, 26 août 2013 - 04:12 .

[werewoof]

- hawke/the warden will actually show up. all of mine are pretty modded and no doubt theyd look ridic swapped over into a different game on another engine.

- no good male love interests. yeah i'm one of those icky fans who plays the games mostly for the romance, blah blah blah no gamer integrity or whatever. but given the chances of cullen (conventionally attractive fandom darling that i really really dont wanna bang) being one of the two guys, and my lack of interest in any of the others except that handsome older bearded fellow (who if hes even a follower at all probably wont be an li because he's older-looking), theres a good chance i wont get nothin this time around.

- tallis returning. i realllly do not like felicia day, i dont like her voice and i dont like her "quirky sassy gamer girl" shtick and i dont like tallis's crap self-insert writing and i dont like ea shoving it in my face that im supposed to like her while she practically plays the game for me ("ha ha i could have unlocked this the whole time but we needed a cutscene where your companions say two lines before i shut them up") and i dont like her self-righteous "hurr stop the violence" thing and the main point i am getting at here is that i do not care for tallis and i do not wish for her to be in the next game unless its so i can tell her to please go away

- too many whiteys. and dont tell me its realistic or whatever, this is a fictional world it aint real medieval europe and its remarkable how closely this alleged realism coincides with what straight white dudes wanna see in their games.

- too many gat dang skeletons i have said it before and i will say it again i am damn sick of fighting those skeletons in fantasy games. stop it theyre annoying. (in all due seriousness i actually just dont want boring enemies)

clearly i have a ton of faith in bioware right now

[Obrusnine]

tiktac wrote...

- hawke/the warden will actually show up. all of mine are pretty modded and no doubt theyd look ridic swapped over into a different game on another engine.

- no good male love interests. yeah i'm one of those icky fans who plays the games mostly for the romance, blah blah blah no gamer integrity or whatever. but given the chances of cullen (conventionally attractive fandom darling that i really really dont wanna bang) being one of the two guys, and my lack of interest in any of the others except that handsome older bearded fellow (who if hes even a follower at all probably wont be an li because he's older-looking), theres a good chance i wont get nothin this time around.

- tallis returning. i realllly do not like felicia day, i dont like her voice and i dont like her "quirky sassy gamer girl" shtick and i dont like tallis's crap self-insert writing and i dont like ea shoving it in my face that im supposed to like her while she practically plays the game for me ("ha ha i could have unlocked this the whole time but we needed a cutscene where your companions say two lines before i shut them up") and i dont like her self-righteous "hurr stop the violence" thing and the main point i am getting at here is that i do not care for tallis and i do not wish for her to be in the next game unless its so i can tell her to please go away

- too many whiteys. and dont tell me its realistic or whatever, this is a fictional world it aint real medieval europe and its remarkable how closely this alleged realism coincides with what straight white dudes wanna see in their games.

- too many gat dang skeletons i have said it before and i will say it again i am damn sick of fighting those skeletons in fantasy games. stop it theyre annoying. (in all due seriousness i actually just dont want boring enemies)

clearly i have a ton of faith in bioware right now

I hate to break it to you, but I'm guessing a majority of that is going to happen. Also considering the complete lack of good female interests DA2, I almost hope there aren't any good male ones, haha

I shall get revenge! xD

Also, Tallis was cool, and Felicia Day is great. Shame on you.

[werewoof]

Obrusnine wrote...

tiktac wrote...

- hawke/the warden will actually show up. all of mine are pretty modded and no doubt theyd look ridic swapped over into a different game on another engine.

- no good male love interests. yeah i'm one of those icky fans who plays the games mostly for the romance, blah blah blah no gamer integrity or whatever. but given the chances of cullen (conventionally attractive fandom darling that i really really dont wanna bang) being one of the two guys, and my lack of interest in any of the others except that handsome older bearded fellow (who if hes even a follower at all probably wont be an li because he's older-looking), theres a good chance i wont get nothin this time around.

- tallis returning. i realllly do not like felicia day, i dont like her voice and i dont like her "quirky sassy gamer girl" shtick and i dont like tallis's crap self-insert writing and i dont like ea shoving it in my face that im supposed to like her while she practically plays the game for me ("ha ha i could have unlocked this the whole time but we needed a cutscene where your companions say two lines before i shut them up") and i dont like her self-righteous "hurr stop the violence" thing and the main point i am getting at here is that i do not care for tallis and i do not wish for her to be in the next game unless its so i can tell her to please go away

- too many whiteys. and dont tell me its realistic or whatever, this is a fictional world it aint real medieval europe and its remarkable how closely this alleged realism coincides with what straight white dudes wanna see in their games.

- too many gat dang skeletons i have said it before and i will say it again i am damn sick of fighting those skeletons in fantasy games. stop it theyre annoying. (in all due seriousness i actually just dont want boring enemies)

clearly i have a ton of faith in bioware right now

I hate to break it to you, but I'm guessing a majority of that is going to happen. Also considering the complete lack of good female interests DA2, I almost hope there aren't any good male ones, haha

I shall get revenge! xD

Also, Tallis was cool, and Felicia Day is great. Shame on you.

personally i liked the female lis for da2, even if i tend to lean towards male lis. out of 4 theres bound to be one i like regardless of gender so heres to hoping. 

at least they delayed it a year so i will be 21 by the time its realeased because i will probably need to be drunk to buy this game 

[snackrat]

That we'll go back to having to choose between two equally terrible choices - not because they're morally grey with their own pros and cons+, but because those on both sides are both the epitome of stupid evil and neither side has redeeming features. (Ye Olde Templar vs Mage choice in DAE)

Modifié par Karsciyin, 26 août 2013 - 05:25 .

[Star fury]

tiktac wrote...
- too many whiteys. and dont tell me its realistic or whatever, this is a fictional world it aint real medieval europe and its remarkable how closely this alleged realism coincides with what straight white dudes wanna see in their games.

[Spectre slayer]

1. We don't find out why the warden or hawke vanished or the reason is completely ridiculous

2. Unlikable companions

3. To many bi romances, and romances are to easy to achieve even if you don't want them to happen and didn't really do anything to activate them

3. Our choices from previous games don't mater at all, and nothing in the game matters in the end

4. Multi player having a big focus and has an impact on how the game ends

5. Getting another cliffhanger ending or a deus ex machina ending that makes no sense and negates all of our choices from the series

6. The combat animations return, combat become some low grade mix of a bunch of different games

7. The reactivity doesn't work well

8. Dialogue wheel is restricted to 3 main things and get werid outcomes

9. Glitches and other graphical errors

10. No moral choices and being good or evil doesn't matter

11. Lame boss battle

12. The inquisitor mysteriously vanishes for absolutely no reason and gets mentioned in dlc 

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 26 août 2013 - 06:16 .

[daaaav]

Star fury wrote...

tiktac wrote...
"Gross generalisations" 

*Fry*

Just BSN. I'm sure plenty of thought went into it...

Modifié par daaaav, 26 août 2013 - 08:28 .

[adayaday]

My greatest fear is that morrigen's "god child" is a distant relative of certain glowing god child...

[l7986]

Just thought of another one. We see some insanely awesome power like blood mage hawke using those demon hands in the trailer to rip the Arishok in half, and said power is nowhere to be found in the game.

[satunnainen]

adayaday wrote...

My greatest fear is that morrigen's "god child" is a distant relative of certain glowing god child...

Anakin?

/duck

[TheGreatDayne]

The inability to be a douchebag... It was what made Origins fun, for me! Too bad giving companions gifts would make them like me, again... Oh well, I was rich, and I manipulated them with items...

[Dianjabla]

Reading the forums before playing the game through at least once. Preferably twice if I actually enjoy it the first time around.

[Miltialdes]

1) - Kill the Warden and Hawke in the Peace meeting in the begining of the game. Easy way to sastify some they won't their come back and ****** me a lot. Because I want a big plot about the disappearance and also an alliance at the end of the game of the three protagonists and their team in a big fight at the final of the game.
2) - Non sense out of charachter of the old companions and actions stupid.

[Linkenski]

Retcons.

[Nyneve]

The only fear I have right now is that the international version won't be playable in English. Can't deal with synchronisation, ugh.

[Elhanan]

Perhaps mini-games could be added to my list.

For me, a better answer to such was in ME where medi-gel could be used as an option to bypass having to play them. As long as there are such options; fine, but when these things become mandatory to continue the game (eg; KOTOR gunnery), then they become a huge problem for me. Only played KOTOR once due to this; a real shame for such a memorable story.

Modifié par Elhanan, 26 août 2013 - 02:46 .

[Jilinna]

No black emporium I loved that thing. It really added to the game for me. I hope it makes a return in DA:I.

[Dubozz]

1.DAI will end like ME3 or something.
2.There will be no suicide mission/battle for amaranthine/denerim
3.There will be no cross class combos and mixed spells
4.There will be no pretty characters (i'm that shallow)

and, oh yeah
5. there will be no meaningful choices with consequences
6. insane difficulty level will not be insane

Modifié par Dubozz, 26 août 2013 - 03:03 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mine would be multiplayer.