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#326
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CronoDragoon wrote...

iakus wrote...
Immediately after the results were publiched.  I mean, like within a day.  Bioware was shown the results first (they requested that), so they knew what they would say before they were "officially" released.


Source? I can't just take these claims on faith, especially since one of the things you said is already contradicted by MikeC99 in the EC survey thread in which the document is posted: they approached BW with the EC survey results, but BW declined to review them on account that they were definitively finished with the endings.

Edit: my source: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/14226254




Well, you are asking details about an event that took place over a year ago.  But I was right that they approached Bioware first, right?

At any rate:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12740340/1

Modifié par iakus, 27 août 2013 - 08:26 .


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Eterna5 wrote...


The only thing I set out the prove was that the EC was mostly positively recieved and thus a sucess. Therefore that 90% poll is even more worthless than it used to be. The study confirms my claim, it accomplished what it set out to do for the most part. 


If this is success, I'd hate to see failure.

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iakus wrote...
Well, you are asking details about an event that took place over a year ago.  But I was right that they approached Bioware first, right?


Not sure if they sent it to BW before posting the thread as I don't believe it's mentioned in that thread. As far as I can tell, though, BW was not interested in the EC survey results.

At any rate:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12740340/1


She said that the BSN is a good sample of the core base but not the entire playerbase, and that this is reflected in the differences between the survey-takers (much higher femshep base) and the population of her data. It doesn't sound so bad when you present it neutrally, does it? Wrong and irrelevant have such a better ring.

(ps, thanks for source)

iakus wrote...

If this is success, I'd hate to see failure.


Oh, I'm sure you remember the BSN original ending survey. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 27 août 2013 - 08:45 .


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CronoDragoon wrote...


She said that the BSN is a good sample of the core base but not the entire playerbase, and that this is reflected in the differences between the survey-takers (much higher femshep base) and the population of her data. It doesn't sound so bad when you present it neutrally, does it? Wrong and irrelevant have such a better ring.


Still sounds an awful lot like "You're not an important enough group to bother with" to me.

(ps, thanks for source)


No problem

Oh, I'm sure you remember the BSN original ending survey. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]


Meh, still feels like different degrees of failure.

Like the ME3 endings :D

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How did I want it to end? Satisfyingly. If Bioware was going to end Shepard's story (which they are constantly insisting that they did), they'd better make it one hell of a conclusion. But they didn't and it wasn't. It was a thrown-together-at-the-last-minute-let's-make-this-as-much-like-deus-ex-as-we-possibly-can pseudo-conclusion written literally on scatch paper with the goal "Speculation for Everyone!" scribbled hastily at the bottom. If I wanted speculation, I wouldn't have even bought ME3. I wanted to see what Shepard's hard work was going to earn him/her at the end.

Granted, the EC did a lot to at least make this ending palatable, but still... ME3's conclusion could have been so much more. I can only hope things can be made right with ME4.

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I wanted a bittersweet ending where the relays and all mass effect technology blow up, but I also wanted the ending to takes its time with the storytelling. I mostly got what I wanted, but the ending felt rushed.

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I would keep the ending with the addition that if your war assets are high enough if you choose Refusal you break the starchild's bull**** and activate the Crucible to ONLY destroy the Reapers.

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Scorpion1O1 wrote...

I would keep the ending with the addition that if your war assets are high enough if you choose Refusal you break the starchild's bull**** and activate the Crucible to ONLY destroy the Reapers.


That would be kind of funny. In destroying the power conduit, somehow the Crucible's dispersal of energy is less refined, thus killing all synthetics, but allowing it to power up with everything intact takes out the reapers alone. The problem is how such a thing would occur. Having it just happen with perfect timing after giving the refuse speech would be kind of silly.

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If everything could be done over, I'd have to go back all the way to the start of ME2.

Shepard doesn't get spaced, nor is there a Project Lazarus. Instead Shep gets marooned and hurt badly. The first part of the game might've been some fun survival based antics and Shep trying to patch her/himself up alone on a planet. I'd give it 6 months, surviving alone. At the end, he'd grow a long beard and start talking to a volleyball. "Wilsssson!!". (See, Wilson is a volleyball. Not the Cerberus medical technician from ME2).

And then Legion shows up. For the same motivations he had in ME2. He ends up helping Shepard and makes him aware of the Heretic problem. And the dark energy problem, more importantly. The first part of this story would be Shep getting used to the idea of a talking Geth, and his warnings about dark energy and how it's connected to defeating the Reapers (this will also tie things closer to Tali later). After all of this, Shepard manages to get back to the Citadel with Legion's help. At this point though, the Council and Alliance had counted Shepard for dead and said it was due to a Geth attack. Now Shepard shows up with a Geth and starts talking about allying with them.

The whole Virmire Survivor situation would revolve around conflicting on this, rather than Cerberus. People suspect Shepard isn't really Shepard anymore and some rebuilt cyborg.. a ploy of the Geth. They arrest him and want to do further tests.

Shepard breaks out with Legion's help...

Actually.. I'm going to stop here. It's an entirely different premise and would take too long to write. Needless to say, I'd have Cerberus as the enemy right away in the second game. I'd have Shepard a fugitive, suspected of being a Geth clone, an enemy of humanity... Shepard would still assemble a ragtag team all the same, but for different reasons. And he wouldn't have the Normandy SR-2. It'd be a Geth ship. Eventually Joker would come on board, but there'd be no EDI. It'll be Joker and Legion instead.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 31 août 2013 - 09:33 .


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I would have liked a full spectrum of available endings ranging from total defeat to triumphant victory.

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I wanted to do some dark energy "investigation" with Giana Parasini.

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With a big ol' fanbase meltdown.

Okay, okay, for really realsies, I wanted ME3 to end in a way that you could still tell stories in that universe even without Shepard, something I think the Extended Cut did well. The original ending more confused me than it did anger me, mostly because there was so much unexplained.

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I think the ending is quite a complex matter. I had played through Leviathan and From Ashes and had the EC installed so for me it all sort of clicked.

Sure, I would've like a more happy ending for Shepard but since I got the litle flash with Shepard twitching I can still add that myself hehe.

I can understand a lot of people being confused and not getting it and perhaps that's what the biggest mistake was but then at the other hand, how would I've done it differently? I wouldn't know really.

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LI finding Shepard. I know it happens in the red ending. But it happens off-screen. I wanna see it on-screen. Or blue ending Shepard decides to communicate with LI through reaper tech or some sort, and at least they can continue to have contact somehow. Or maybe blue ending leads to a 'God Emperor of Dune' situation of sorts, where the people know that Shepard has become the master of Reapers (akin to how Leto II became 'deified'), and Shep doesn't just stay hidden in the shadows. I don't know. But something a bit more descriptive of the 'after'.