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[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

An entire race is a massive asset.

You wouldn't get the perfect ending.

One of the reasons I think it's necessary to require it is that a perfect ending would be the obvious choice to canonize. Some players would object to it, but not that many. And so all the races need to be alive so they can exist in ME 4.

What's the perfect ending?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

They're free to think whatever they please. However, that doesn't mean they have any justification to demand that the narrative must agree with them.

Just as you have no justification to demand that it agrees with you.

[David7204]

A conventional victory, with the nonconventional solution preferably not going to waste somehow. All races, all squadmates, and Shepard unambiguously survive. Relays intact. The Reapers defeated in a single moment of great skill, willpower, or courage from Shepard.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

A conventional victory, with the nonconventional solution preferably not going to waste somehow. All races, all squadmates, and Shepard unambiguously survive. Relays intact. The Reapers defeated in a single moment of great skill, willpower, or courage from Shepard.

Ok. 

I disagree with that being perfect. 

I believe conventional victory should be impossible, I believe several races ought to go extinct, I definitely believe many squadmates should no longer be breathing by the end of the game, I think Shepard should live, and I think that the Reapers should be defeated by the combined effort of the galaxy, not just Shepard.

See, different opinions.

[David7204]

That's nice. Maybe you should write some fan fiction.

Modifié par David7204, 27 août 2013 - 02:57 .

[Steelcan]

I've already posted my ideal ending

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

That's nice. Maybe you should write some fan fiction.

I don't need to. I can do everything I said I'd get in a perfect ending without fanfiction.

You can't. Have fun in la-la land.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 27 août 2013 - 03:00 .

[SlottsMachine]

David7204 wrote...

That's nice. Maybe you should write some fan fiction.

Already am, my homie. 

Modifié par General Slotts, 27 août 2013 - 02:59 .

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

That's nice. Maybe you should write some fan fiction.

With the way the narrative is structured in ME3, "conventional victory" would actually be the fan fiction.

[David7204]

Which is exactly why it would require a significantly different structure.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

That's nice. Maybe you should write some fan fiction.

With the way the narrative is structured in ME3, "conventional victory" would actually be the fan fiction.

And the relays being intact.... and all the squadmates surviving.... and Shepard being heroic.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 27 août 2013 - 03:01 .

[CynicalShep]

I don't quite know how I wanted it to end but I'm not exactly happy with what I've got.

[Sebby]

dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

That's nice. Maybe you should write some fan fiction.

With the way the narrative is structured in ME3, "conventional victory" would actually be the fan fiction.

Yep, the narrative is clear about the use of the crucible being the only way to beat them.

David should pay better attention to it.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Which is exactly why it would require a significantly different structure.

Why does it require anything you want?

[CynicalShep]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

In my perfect ending, Shep and co. defeat the Reapers by using the Elements of Harmony.

Shooting lazors of friendship and understanding from the thresher maw gun.

[Steelcan]

Now I'm interested,

How would you restructure ME3 to allow for such a victory, no altering ME1/2

[David7204]

To make things ideal, some changes to ME 1 and 2 would be necessary.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

To make things ideal, some changes to ME 1 and 2 would be necessary.

Like what?

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

To make things ideal, some changes to ME 1 and 2 would be necessary.

building off of your idea for ME2's ending, how would you change ME3?

[CynicalShep]

David7204 wrote...

To make things ideal, some changes to ME 1 and 2 would be necessary.

Then you'd have to go into it knowing that you're making a trilogy. Writers didn't have that privilege. 

[CynicalShep]

iakus wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

M25105 wrote...

I wanted it to end by blowing up the reapers, toasting beer over their corpses, some funeral scene for Anderson and a speech about honouring the dead. Then a big party following Shepard walking of with Liara back to his place.

You know, a normal sane ending.

By normal and sane you mean terribly boring and cliche. 

And borderline illogical, given the scale of the enemies.

Guess I should quit my playthrough of the Baldur's Gate games now then, since by the end I'll be slaying ancient dragons, demon princes, and demigods.

Such a totally illogical ending, what was I thinking!

Most videogames wouldn't exist if realism was to be implemented. Still, there is "unlikely" and there is the realm of "lolwut". Beating the Reapers conventionally would be more of the second if ME1 is anything to go by.

[spirosz]

CynicalShep wrote...

David7204 wrote...

To make things ideal, some changes to ME 1 and 2 would be necessary.

Then you'd have to go into it knowing that you're making a trilogy. Writers didn't have that privilege. 

Wait, they did know.  Losing and getting new writers is the problem, IMO. 

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

To make things ideal, some changes to ME 1 and 2 would be necessary.

Hah! Well, if that's the case ... 

[David7204]

Making heavy changes to the Battle of the Citadel. Reworking the collectors a bit in ME 2. Change Arrival to better justify the Reaper invasion and the beginning of ME 3.

If possible, add a few levels in ME 2 showing off shipyards, planetary shields, electronic warfare equipment, that sort of thing. Give the player a sense of the progress being made. Alter a lot of dialogue with Council.

Modifié par David7204, 27 août 2013 - 03:10 .