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Human Adept - Gold - Solo @ 35:13. 3 Waves Survived. No lolAcolyte, lolHurricane, nor Armored Compartments. And my submission for Speedrun HoF.


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Full vid:  

Build used:  http://kalence.drupa...!13Y54314!GF863

Wave 3: Upload.
Wave 6: Target Elimination.
Wave 10: Devices x4. <_<

Wave10devices, wave10devices, WAVE10DEVICES!!! Aaah! I almost ragequit my own damn solo.

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 25 août 2013 - 01:55 .


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Nice solo. But why no acolyte? How were you managing banshee barriers?

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XFG-65 wrote...

Nice solo. But why no acolyte? How were you managing banshee barriers?


Thanks.  And yeah, I'm just not a fan of the Acolyte.  As far as managing Banshee Barriers, I... don't quite know how to answer your question.  I mean, between Warp, Biotic Explosions, shooting her, and not really prioritizing Banshees, I never really considered that an obstacle. *shrug*

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What was your build?

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Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...

What was your build?


http://kalence.drupa...!13Y54314!GF863

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tetsutsuru wrote...

Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...

What was your build?


http://kalence.drupa...!13Y54314!GF863


I was wondering if you went full fitness.  But, no.  Nice.

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Good job. Why not warp ammo, though?

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Good job. Why not warp ammo, though?


I can kill faster with AP ammo IV versus taking Warp ammo IV.  I am unsure as to why though.  I think it has something to do with the mechanics of the CSMG.  Either that, or I'm nuts and just got lucky.

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 25 août 2013 - 05:38 .


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Oh, wow. I totally misread this thread. I thought that OP was boasting about completing three waves and intentionally dying on the fourth (all in 35 minutes), as well as asking that such a feat be placed in the solo Hall of Fame.

Modifié par TwinWolf954, 25 août 2013 - 06:14 .


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This is almost as good as caineghis's plat solo speedrun attempt

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Nice job. Now try platinum !

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Really good I think... I am pretty sure you will have a much easier time with cyclonicIV and geth scanner, but if you want to make if more difficult... more props to you

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tetsutsuru wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

Nice solo. But why no acolyte? How were you managing banshee barriers?


Thanks.  And yeah, I'm just not a fan of the Acolyte.  As far as managing Banshee Barriers, I... don't quite know how to answer your question.  I mean, between Warp, Biotic Explosions, shooting her, and not really prioritizing Banshees, I never really considered that an obstacle. *shrug*


Yeah he's right actually. I have Solo'd with the Human Adept and even while doing it I realized I didnt need the Acolyte for enemies such as the Banshee as the biotic explosions destroy banshee's outright. The only time I ever really saw the Acolyte shine was on quick kills on unshielded enemies by one shotting the Acolyte, then singularity to disable them and then warp/shockwave to kill them. The Acolyte is not necessary for the Human Adept the way he is now but it is definitely a great tool to have but not necessary on Gold Solo's with this character. He's very powerful as it is.

Edit: Just one other thing that for Speed Runs you probably want to keep the time to sub 20 minutes. Not easy to do but thats the challenge. Keep going.

Modifié par INVADERONE, 25 août 2013 - 12:20 .


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I'm actually surprised you went for 6 ranks in shockwave. I personally don't find the recharge evo nor the lifting evo to be worth it. Excellent job nonetheless :)

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AP rounds? WHY U NO WARP? 

And Instead of Survivor loadout you take Geth Scanenr crutch.  

Also you should take Lift Damage on Singulariry - Recharge speed with 200% CD is pretty useless. 

Modifié par Element 0, 25 août 2013 - 12:36 .


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Cohen le Barbare wrote...

I'm actually surprised you went for 6 ranks in shockwave. I personally don't find the recharge evo nor the lifting evo to be worth it. Excellent job nonetheless :)

 

You need 6 ranks for maximum BE power. 

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Element 0 wrote...

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

I'm actually surprised you went for 6 ranks in shockwave. I personally don't find the recharge evo nor the lifting evo to be worth it. Excellent job nonetheless :)

 

You need 6 ranks for maximum BE power. 


Exactly.

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Nice amount of credits too :devil:

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Bump for video upload complete.  Link in OP.

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 25 août 2013 - 01:58 .


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INVADERONE wrote...

tetsutsuru wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

Nice solo. But why no acolyte? How were you managing banshee barriers?


Thanks.  And yeah, I'm just not a fan of the Acolyte.  As far as managing Banshee Barriers, I... don't quite know how to answer your question.  I mean, between Warp, Biotic Explosions, shooting her, and not really prioritizing Banshees, I never really considered that an obstacle. *shrug*


Yeah he's right actually. I have Solo'd with the Human Adept and even while doing it I realized I didnt need the Acolyte for enemies such as the Banshee as the biotic explosions destroy banshee's outright. The only time I ever really saw the Acolyte shine was on quick kills on unshielded enemies by one shotting the Acolyte, then singularity to disable them and then warp/shockwave to kill them. The Acolyte is not necessary for the Human Adept the way he is now but it is definitely a great tool to have but not necessary on Gold Solo's with this character. He's very powerful as it is.

Edit: Just one other thing that for Speed Runs you probably want to keep the time to sub 20 minutes. Not easy to do but thats the challenge. Keep going.


Gotcha.  My target completion time was to be within the neighborhood of the Xbox and PS3 times on the list in the Speedrun HoF thread (FB:White @ low-30's).  In this run, I just got an upload objective wave that had enemies spawn right next to it which instantly required me to kite, and g**d*** devices for Wave 10.  If RNG gave me pizza or escort, that'd shave a few minutes off the completion time, easily.

But I hear ya -- I'm gonna keep trying, as my ultimate goal with the Human Adept non-Armored Compartments speedrun is actually on FB:Glacier/Reaper.  I just keep getting trolled by Marauder Shields' shenanigans and the occasional Banshee long-range-teleport-into-instagrab. :mellow:

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 25 août 2013 - 02:10 .


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Element 0 wrote...

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

I'm actually surprised you went for 6 ranks in shockwave. I personally don't find the recharge evo nor the lifting evo to be worth it. Excellent job nonetheless :)

 

You need 6 ranks for maximum BE power. 

Even if there is no damage increase with the evo? That sucks imo: .28 seconds doesn't change squat and lifting is pretty much useless as well. Well You learn something new everyday right?

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Cohen le Barbare wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

I'm actually surprised you went for 6 ranks in shockwave. I personally don't find the recharge evo nor the lifting evo to be worth it. Excellent job nonetheless :)

 

You need 6 ranks for maximum BE power. 

Even if there is no damage increase with the evo? That sucks imo: .28 seconds doesn't change squat and lifting is pretty much useless as well. Well You learn something new everyday right?

 

BE power depends on the primer and the detonator levels

6/6 will be the most powerful
6/5 will be less 

Although Shockwave does get a 65% detonation boost, which is pretty sweet.

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Cohen le Barbare wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Cohen le Barbare wrote...

I'm actually surprised you went for 6 ranks in shockwave. I personally don't find the recharge evo nor the lifting evo to be worth it. Excellent job nonetheless :)

 

You need 6 ranks for maximum BE power.


Even if there is no damage increase with the evo? That sucks imo: .28 seconds doesn't change squat and lifting is pretty much useless as well. Well You learn something new everyday right?


Correct.

Eric Fagnan wrote...

Power Combos

The damage of power combo explosions depends on the rank of the source and detonator power, not the stats of the power. So if you combine a rank 6 Pull with a rank 6 Throw, you will get maximum combo damage. Whether you use Throw or Warp to detonate doesn't really matter, except when that power has special upgrades to increase the damage of combos. Even if Warp, by default, does more damage than Throw on a regular impact, this does not affect how much damage is done on power combos - only the rank of the power matters.

This applies for the other combos as well. Using a rank 6 Incinerate to set up a fire combo and detonating with a rank 6 Throw will cause maximum damage. Using a rank 1 Incinerate with a rank 6 Throw does the same damage as using a rank 6 Incinerate followed by a rank 1 Throw, which is less than having max rank in both powers.


Reference:  http://social.biowar...7/index/9822648

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tetsutsuru wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Good job. Why not warp ammo, though?


I can kill faster with AP ammo IV versus taking Warp ammo IV.  I am unsure as to why though.  I think it has something to do with the mechanics of the CSMG.  Either that, or I'm nuts and just got lucky.


Warp ammo would be much more eficiente. Playing Warp before shooting.

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tetsutsuru wrote...


Power Combos


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All that aside a 6/5 Warp Shockwave BE is still very powerful.  Going 5 in Shockwave is a fair choice as far as I'm concerned.