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As for some of the full offial story given from the dev's from threads about this topic that I followed that I think got a little lost in the shuffle. here are the links to just the Dev's comments.




social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/9/index/655509&lf=8

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/9/index/608506&lf=8

Modifié par darkshadow136, 22 janvier 2010 - 04:48 .


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AlaskanHusky

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What happened to the RTO thread. Seems like if you just came into this forum you won't know there is RTO even. no?

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AlaskanHusky wrote...

What happened to the RTO thread. Seems like if you just came into this forum you won't know there is RTO even. no?


Closed because it was "redundant" with this one (like Xbox 360 is the only platform here, meh).

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Victor,

Thank you very much for the info. Admittedly I was probably one of the more vocal parties in the forums. I understand the dificulties involved in testing prior to release etc. While I do not write game program code I do write code for other industries that are just as demanding at times. The main frustration was that most of us felt as though we had been abandoned by what many of us probably fell is one of the better game designers out there.



In some posts people mentioned that there was a pirated copy that was put out on xbox live market place. I am having trouble buying that.



One thing I have discovered when I started a brand new character is that for some reason the specializations were present. I have heard that they disappear once the character hits lev 14 or so. Guess I will find out. Are you aware of anything like this?




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So.. Is RTO canceled? Is there any chance at all we are getting an update before next week to fix the update that breaks the game?

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I mean at least bioware is saying yes they realise they screwed up with setting our expectations an not communicating enough. At least admitting is part one of improving. But then what comes after that? More apologies? I hope not. And come on. How are people supposed to know Xbox 360 means RTO?

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yeah no kidding, like anything to do with 360 is worth looking into

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ohupthis wrote...

yeah no kidding, like anything to do with 360 is worth looking into


if you mean the xbox 360 version of this game I agree, but the console in itself is very worth looking into, I'm playing forza motorsport 3 right now, and it's quite awesome.

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Abriael_CG wrote...

Feraele wrote...
"Fernando Melo:No, it has nothing to do with platforms themselves. It's a quality issue where, literally, at the last minute, we spotted something that had made it through our own testing, EA's testing and was at Microsoft already. But it applies to all three platforms; it wasn't something specific to Microsoft, we just happened to catch it there first. We probably could have gone with it, but it's something that was serious enough that we felt it impacted the quality [of the DLC] and we made the choice to delay it to give our fans the best experience with it."


A quality issue sounds like something that wasn't good looking or fun to play enough. On the other hand, how does such an issue have anything to do with testing? it has to do with design mostly.
The more I read what they wrote, and apply it to what I know about the game's architecture, the more puzzled I am, to be honest.


I don't pretend to understand it completely but sounds like a few issues combined, that made them pull it for more testing ie: the new testing method as well as some sort of quality upgrade.  Don't forget too..that those that got the early version, state there is a missing quest...I think to do with *spoiler* *spoiler* Duncan.

I put spoiler there...because this is a no spoiler thread and..I haven't seen it yet, being a PC user.

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Joush wrote...

So.. Is RTO canceled? Is there any chance at all we are getting an update before next week to fix the update that breaks the game?


Other than that last post by Victor a couple days ago we haven't heard anything..so no far as we know its not cancelled.   If that changes I am sure they will alert us.

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DD_74 wrote...

Victor,
Thank you very much for the info. Admittedly I was probably one of the more vocal parties in the forums. I understand the dificulties involved in testing prior to release etc. While I do not write game program code I do write code for other industries that are just as demanding at times. The main frustration was that most of us felt as though we had been abandoned by what many of us probably fell is one of the better game designers out there.

In some posts people mentioned that there was a pirated copy that was put out on xbox live market place. I am having trouble buying that.

One thing I have discovered when I started a brand new character is that for some reason the specializations were present. I have heard that they disappear once the character hits lev 14 or so. Guess I will find out. Are you aware of anything like this?


There was and is a pirated version but the moderators and Devs would prefer that we not converse about it continually.   We've been told about it.

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Joush wrote...

So.. Is RTO canceled? Is there any chance at all we are getting an update before next week to fix the update that breaks the game?


No man. Delayed, yes. Cancelled, almost impossible. There's no reason for that, not after all the effort they have already done. And the devs would let us know if this would (unlikely) happen :blush:


Edit: Hi Feraele! =]

Modifié par MrHimuraChan, 22 janvier 2010 - 06:03 .


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MrHimuraChan wrote...

Joush wrote...

So.. Is RTO canceled? Is there any chance at all we are getting an update before next week to fix the update that breaks the game?


No man. Delayed, yes. Cancelled, almost impossible. There's no reason for that, not after all the effort they have already done. And the devs would let us know if this would (unlikely) happen :blush:


Edit: Hi Feraele! =]


LOL!  *waves*

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A new thread - wow!... Is that the only news?

Has it been said when the RTO will print to a PC or is it just 360 news?

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AlaskanHusky wrote...

What happened to the RTO thread. Seems like if you just came into this forum you won't know there is RTO even. no?



I think Bioware are trying to forget this whole DLC debacle ever happened.

We're at the tail-end of January and we're back to where we were in November; "Coming Soon". Those people who mentioned the DLC might be getting rolled into Awakenings might not have been far off the mark.

This is disappointing.

:mellow:

On the bright side... Mass Effect 2! Hurrah!

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What is now? I spent my money for this DLC and nothing else. I am not interested in ME or ME2. At the moment there is no more future DLC for DA in sight and it comes to my mind that I wasted my money for nothing.

Great.

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Bioware and their awesome track record of DLC.



Never again will i trust the "2 years of DLC" BS again.


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A new thread - wow!... Is that the only news?



Has it been said when the RTO will print to a PC or is it just 360 news?

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AndersB wrote...

A new thread - wow!... Is that the only news?

Has it been said when the RTO will print to a PC or is it just 360 news?


no only xbox version RtO talk here
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pc and ps3 "shut up"?
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and wait until someone from bw say something about pc+ps3 version RtO
at least this my point of view of this "thing"
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Gamemakers should just forget consoles and concentrate on PC versions:)

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Cream_Poof wrote...

Gamemakers should just forget consoles and concentrate on PC versions:)


Agreed Consoles can only go so far before you have to buy a new one to employ better engines,Where as you can always upgrade a comp to support the new ones alot cheaper than buying a new 600$ system every 2-3 years^_^

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DragonKingZul wrote...

Cream_Poof wrote...

Gamemakers should just forget consoles and concentrate on PC versions:)


Agreed Consoles can only go so far before you have to buy a new one to employ better engines,Where as you can always upgrade a comp to support the new ones alot cheaper than buying a new 600$ system every 2-3 years^_^


RFLMAO
600 every 2-3 years??? LOL LOL LOL

#873
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Indeed when they come up with the little upgrades for the systems but sell them over with a higher price. Much like the Ipods. Reguardless still no RTO on the PC.

#874
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You really have no idea of what you are talking about do you?



I have had my ps3 since 2007, it cost me a grand total of 200 usd even then because I got the promotion period, and there are no "little upgrades" whatsoever after, and I will not need to upgrade this machine for a good time to come, as its lifespan will last at least another 2 years. (I can identify games that are being developed for this machine that will come in late 2011)



If you don't like consoles for whatever, great. Just don't go around pontificating when you are clueless yourself.


#875
DragonKingZul

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Heh, I 'm sorry for offending your Console or your self, I spoke of Consoles in General not the PS3.