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[rogue1983]

well victor can you tell us why or tell me when I should check back 2 weeks from now a month and half or when awakeing is released?

[Avaricus]

From what I gather, the reason why we aren't getting RtO even though it may "just work fine" is that Bioware has introduced a substantially larger test coverage plan, to which all future updates will be subjected. That includes the title update as well as RtO. This testing may not have been completed yet, and even if it is - it would take sometime to get the contents published. If Bioware releases the DLC before said test coverage is completed, then they would risk publishing yet another broken product, not to mention that it would defeat the whole purpose of having the extended test coverage in the first place.



This speculation, of course, is assuming that Bioware thusfar has been honest and integral in their communication with us. Why do I assume this? Because if they aren't, then any updates given to us from them would have no meaning anyway, so might as well assume that they were telling the truth.



That being said I would greatly appreciate a more substantial situation update, even if it is something like "it won't be done for another 2 weeks at the earliest".

[Retrovertigo187]

I too, feel like a mushroom

[rogue1983]

I guess if this is the response of his early comment. then I bid everyone farewell and goodday I will be cancelling my pre-order and bioware shall never again play me for a fool.

Modifié par rogue1983, 22 janvier 2010 - 11:55 .

[jedimaster52501]

rogue1983 wrote...

but why is RTO delayed if there is no issues with it?

that is what we all want to know, i would like to know as soon as possibl, i doubt it happens by tomorrow.

[jedimaster52501]

i wonder how much i can get for this game and both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 on ebay as a set? Mass Effect 2 would be unopened. no DLC with ME and DAO.

Modifié par jedimaster52501, 22 janvier 2010 - 11:42 .

[addiction21]

rogue1983 wrote...

I guess if this is the response of his early comment. then I bid everyone farewell and goodday I will be selling dao and cancelling my pre-order and bioware shall never again play me for a fool.

Yup that is souch smart and sound business practice. Purposefully going out your way to anger and "fool" your customers. Yup they totally set this up...
Anyway enjoy, I have had over a decade of great games from them, even if this whole fiasco could of been handled better I have no problem giving them a second chance. 
 

[OH-UP-THIS!]

jedimaster52501 wrote...

i wonder how much i can get for this game and both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 on ebay as a set? Mass Effect 2 would be unopened. no DLC with ME and DAO.

opening bids..........start now!!

[DeadJediJamie]

rogue1983 wrote...

I guess if this is the response of his early comment. then I bid everyone farewell and goodday I will be selling dao and cancelling my pre-order and bioware shall never again play me for a fool.

I wouldn't go that far. This is their first post-game DLC release, there are bound to be teething problems. Given that Victor purposefully avoids answering the question about Microsoft delaying the DLC leads me to conclude that there could be legal ramifications for being transparent and that this indeed a case of Microsoft delaying the release of the other DLC until the patch is re-released and gone through the certification process.

Likely they don't want to be last in line.

[rogue1983]

I have loved bioware games for awhile and truthfully probably won't sell my game but I am cancelling my pre-order due to this dlc fiasco but I would like if bioware would just state why if RTO is working why not release it and what is the real reason behind the delay. it does look like the x-box update is behind it all and that is very sad.

[-akujin-]

omg the *iamnotallowedtotalkhereaboutit* version of rto (pc) is working just fine. and it's "out" for some weeks now.

it's a shame that a company like bioware keeps delaying content cuz microsoft tells them to... ~~

[shiney show]

Does any one know when we will have acess to the new dlc content?
As I have bio points and want to play the new dlc 'return to ostagar'
where you learn about the grey wardens what realy happend to them in that battle.

Modifié par shiney show, 23 janvier 2010 - 12:07 .

[OH-UP-THIS!]

-akujin- wrote...

omg the *iamnotallowedtotalkhereaboutit* version of rto (pc) is working just fine. and it's "out" for some weeks now.
it's a shame that a company like bioware keeps delaying content cuz microsoft tells them to... ~~

That's the "bully" microshaft for ya.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Victor Wachter wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...

From this point forward, any discussion of trolls/fanboys will get the poster a 24-hour ban. Flame wars are not allowed, so please review the site rules before continuing, and then do so civilly.

Ok, but what about giving us something that would put such discussions back in the background where they belong? We've gone quite a lot with no news. I thought you guys had some meetings this week about how to improve communication, yet, I don't see such an improvement.

We did. I put forth a proposal. It was accepted, and now we are in the process of getting me access to various databases and whatnot so that I can compile updates on a regular basis. It's coming, but a change in communication processes is not an overnight affair.

Databases? No more excuses, please.

You don't have to talk to your databases. You can just talk to us. Keeping your customers informed about a product that you are not relasing has more to do with common sense and being fair. It's not rocket science.

You just had your chance and what did you do? You walked away. Again.

[Wicked 702]

addiction21 wrote...

rogue1983 wrote...

I guess if this is the response of his early comment. then I bid everyone farewell and goodday I will be selling dao and cancelling my pre-order and bioware shall never again play me for a fool.

Yup that is souch smart and sound business practice. Purposefully going out your way to anger and "fool" your customers. Yup they totally set this up...
Anyway enjoy, I have had over a decade of great games from them, even if this whole fiasco could of been handled better I have no problem giving them a second chance. 
 

Ditto.

Could I so easily turn my back on the people that gave me Neverwinter Nights? No.....

It's going to take something a lot bigger than a bungled patch and some delayed DLC to get me to jump ship. This game's got some big issues but frankly Bioware games tend to be patch heavy anyway because of the sheer level of content and formulas that go into them. The more things that can go wrong....well you know.

As long as they don't give up or stop at least TRYING to fix the problems they deserve a fair shake.

[rogue1983]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...

From this point forward, any discussion of trolls/fanboys will get the poster a 24-hour ban. Flame wars are not allowed, so please review the site rules before continuing, and then do so civilly.

Ok, but what about giving us something that would put such discussions back in the background where they belong? We've gone quite a lot with no news. I thought you guys had some meetings this week about how to improve communication, yet, I don't see such an improvement.

We did. I put forth a proposal. It was accepted, and now we are in the process of getting me access to various databases and whatnot so that I can compile updates on a regular basis. It's coming, but a change in communication processes is not an overnight affair.

Databases? No more excuses, please.

You don't have to talk to your databases. You can just talk to us. Keeping your customers informed about a product that you are not relasing has more to do with common sense and being fair. It's not rocket science.

You just had your chance and what did you do? You walked away. Again.

[DragonRageGT]

I feel like when I watched an interview with a Brazilian politician who was once exiled by the military coup and then became Governor of Rio de Janeiro before trying the presidency, which he lost:

Reporter: What's your name?

Politician: Well, considering the current global conjecture and the post Berlin Wall reconfiguring of the world order, i must say that I believe that it is in the best interest of the people of my country that new researches are done on this subject and that a board of notable and extraordinaire social cientists are gathered to debate the findings before I can give you any answer!

[AngryFrozenWater]

Feraele wrote...

Well if he needs access to databases that he currently doesn't have, in order to compile more information so that it pacifies us..I would guess thats the reason. Seems an honest enough answer to me.

He can reply to posts and he can create threads. Whatever it is he needs more will probably follow when that is ready. Fine. In the meantime he has said tools to start explaining what is going on.

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

AngryFrozenWater wrote...

Feraele wrote...

Well if he needs access to databases that he currently doesn't have, in order to compile more information so that it pacifies us..I would guess thats the reason. Seems an honest enough answer to me.

He can reply to posts and he can create threads. Whatever it is he needs more will probably follow when that is ready. Fine. In the meantime he has said tools to start explaining what is going on.

No he doesn't. That's the point of him trying to get access to the databases. Victor is only part of the community
team like Chris. He's not a developer. If he wants to know what's going
on with RTO and the title update, he either
has to talk to the devs themselves or access specific databases to see
how the products are progressing.

[Fexelea]

Victor Wachter wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

Victor Wachter wrote...

From this point forward, any discussion of trolls/fanboys will get the poster a 24-hour ban. Flame wars are not allowed, so please review the site rules before continuing, and then do so civilly.

Ok, but what about giving us something that would put such discussions back in the background where they belong? We've gone quite a lot with no news. I thought you guys had some meetings this week about how to improve communication, yet, I don't see such an improvement.

We did. I put forth a proposal. It was accepted, and now we are in the process of getting me access to various databases and whatnot so that I can compile updates on a regular basis. It's coming, but a change in communication processes is not an overnight affair.

Indeed not! But very happy to hear that something like this will not happen again.

I will reiterate my opinion that if the more vocal of the fanbase had not pushed about, that proposal might have not been submitted/approved. So Abriael is working for us all!

[Abriael_CG]

Victor Wachter wrote...

We did. I put forth a proposal. It was accepted, and now we are in the process of getting me access to various databases and whatnot so that I can compile updates on a regular basis. It's coming, but a change in communication processes is not an overnight affair.

That's quite good news victor. Hopefully the results will be worth the effort. I'm sure you know what is the piece of info we all are waiting for, and I hope you agree that we waited enough for it.

In the meanwhile, thanks for pushing the issue with your bosses

Fexelea wrote...
I will reiterate my opinion that if the more
vocal of the fanbase had not pushed about, that proposal might have not
been submitted/approved. So Abriael is working for us all!

There's no need to hand out medals. If Victor will indeed improve the communication channel between Bioware and us, then he's the one that will have to be praised. I'm not the one that went to their marketing managers with a proposal in hand.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 23 janvier 2010 - 01:56 .