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[rogue1983]

since RTO has been delayed for more than a month I was thinking that if they sell us another hour long dlc it would totally make up for the delay and everything else. since they have different teams working on dlc and if they have another hour long dlc in works that could be ready it would I think earn fan support back for this whole fiasco if they sold another hour long dlc. they would still make more money and make the fans happy. but it was just a thought if you disagree there is no need for bashing.

[n0y0ki]

Abriael_CG wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...
but you seem not to get the point, because it doesnt coinside with your views,
that you repeat the same claptrap over and over again ad nauseum.

You have done the exact same thing. Pot meet kettle.

It's quite simple. If no results are achieved, you can either drop it, or you can continue asking until you achieve something. I don't like dropping complaints that I feel legit, and so I don't. It's really that simple.

We have been promised a change. This means something was wrong.
If no one raises his voice, change will never come.

agreed, but raising your voice and repeating the same arguement over and over, with no result, has to register something, doesnt it?
as said over and over, they are doing what they can , how they can , when they can.
and all your crowing and spouting isnt making things better, faster, or different.

things take time, no matter how we wish they would "change" faster.
you have intelligence, this youve shown, you have to reconize this as truth.
want all you wish, it doesnt make things change or happen any faster then they happen.

edit: really, you and sarah need to come up with new "catch " phrases.
kettle calling pot and so on are over used by you 2 now.

Modifié par n0y0ki, 23 janvier 2010 - 08:11 .

[GorKahn]

No kettles or pots here just thoughts. Since buying into RTO over a month ago with no relief insight does help me to question future project and releases. I doubt that I will buy into another one without knowing it works and is out in the future.

[Abriael_CG]

n0y0ki wrote...
agreed, but raising your voice and repeating the same arguement over and over, with no result, has to register something, doesnt it?

The "no result" part happens to be quite debatable, doesn't it? 

[Serenade]

I really dont care anymore, because Mass Effect 2 is out soon. For me it looks like a much more polished game. And when im done with that (hopefully i wont get any game-brakers in that game) we console users should get at least one patch that actually works.

[n0y0ki]

Abriael_CG wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...
agreed, but raising your voice and repeating the same arguement over and over, with no result, has to register something, doesnt it?

The "no result" part happens to be quite debatable, doesn't it? 

that depends now doesnt it.
either you are satisfied with the results, and need not go on about it.
or your not, which means you got no results.
which is it?

[PanosSmirnakos]

GorKahn wrote...

No kettles or pots here just thoughts. Since buying into RTO over a month ago with no relief insight does help me to question future project and releases. I doubt that I will buy into another one without knowing it works and is out in the future.

Yeap. Delaying the first DLC 3 times wasn't the best way from them to give my money so easily from now on. Bioware or not.

[Abriael_CG]

n0y0ki wrote...
that depends now doesnt it.
either you are satisfied with the results, and need not go on about it.
or your not, which means you got no results.
which is it?

We saw the promise of a result. Now we will have to see how that pans out

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

n0y0ki wrote...
that depends now doesnt it.
either you are satisfied with the results, and need not go on about it.
or your not, which means you got no results.
which is it?

Holy pretentiousness batman! I could have sworn folks agreed already they agreed to disagree. Personally I am happy with the results if in the future a similar situation is handled better with a quicker response time. Which in the grand scheme of things should make everyone happy. Regardless of what side of the arguement you happen to side on.

[n0y0ki]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...
that depends now doesnt it.
either you are satisfied with the results, and need not go on about it.
or your not, which means you got no results.
which is it?

Holy pretentiousness batman! I could have sworn folks agreed already they agreed to disagree. Personally I am happy with the results if in the future a similar situation is handled better with a quicker response time. Which in the grand scheme of things should make everyone happy. Regardless of what side of the arguement you happen to side on.

holy useless post catwoman, meow.
if you agree to disagree, why post?

Modifié par n0y0ki, 23 janvier 2010 - 08:54 .

[n0y0ki]

Abriael_CG wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...
that depends now doesnt it.
either you are satisfied with the results, and need not go on about it.
or your not, which means you got no results.
which is it?

We saw the promise of a result. Now we will have to see how that pans out

agreed again, does that mean the insistant call for ceos to answer, and calls for update news every 30 minutes are over?
then i bow to you ser, and respect your intelligence.

[Insurgence]

ohupthis wrote...

Insurgence wrote...

I'm not trying to be a jerk, but it will probably going to come out that way anyways. So I'm sorry if it does.

Simply put. Not having access to databases and whatnot should not stop you from digging up additional information that can be released and posting it in a timely fashion. Even if it requires the standard disclaimer of "This isn't a promise or a guarantee", which pretty much everything should be announced and taken that way unless it is done.



Edited for bad cut/paste formating

Don't worry, not taken the wrong way, the easiest way to put this, is the fact there are so many different areas of management/directors, that to compile all the info wouldn't be a "Quickfix".

And please don't think I'm trying to deflect any hard feelings away from this, it's just tiring ya know?

From what I can tell, Bioware is trying to extend the life of Dragon with Downloadable content. Not much different from what an MMO does between expansion packs (I play a lot of World of Warcraft). Of course unlike an MMO, we only pay for the content but not a subscirption. Now the reason why I make that comparison is largely because updates are one of the best ways to keep peoples interest in something. While they are not a subscription based MMO, the idea is generally the same, to provide additional content to extend the life of the original product, thus with the extremely nice benefit of bringing in more income. Problem with this strategy is, if you are not going to provide, or are unable to provide new content, then you need to do something to keep peoples interest in the product that is available, even if they are not actively play in it. A good way to do that is to keep it on everyones mind. Problem is, that only delays the inevitable loss of interest people are going to have in the product.

As far as internal communication is concerned though, I do understand how much of a pain all that communication can be. Having worked at Intel on and off for a while now, I have gotten used to how a company can work. At one point I was in validation, and was responsible for keeping test procedures upto date (going for XP to prerelease Vista - this was yuck on so many levels), and redirecting test results to the right areas (ie third party software/hardware, Windows, or Intel hardware/software). We also had a team in Asia, of which I am not bilingual, nore did I have a bilingual person readily on hand. Yeah, communication was a mess, but I still got my job done. So I do understand how it can be hard, especially when you are dealing with multiple teams.

But having said all that, I also have to say that in this case I am a consumer first, and I need my fix.

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

n0y0ki wrote...

holy useless post catwoman, meow.
if you agree to disagree, why post?

Gee I dunno maybe because as a paying customer, I have just as much right as anyone else to post? 

[n0y0ki]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...

holy useless post catwoman, meow.
if you agree to disagree, why post?

Gee I dunno maybe because as a paying customer, I have just as much right as anyone else to post? 

but of course, as someone paying money for a right to post nothing, continue, please.

[awsome_robot]

don't bother CoS Sarah Jinstar, n0y0ki's "train has left the station".

[n0y0ki]

awsome_robot wrote...

don't bother CoS Sarah Jinstar, n0y0ki's "train has left the station".

and you have some brilliant insight to share other than nothing?

[addiction21]

And now its time for the daily warning from a mod...

[awsome_robot]

n0y0ki wrote...

awsome_robot wrote...

don't bother CoS Sarah Jinstar, n0y0ki's "train has left the station".

and you have some brilliant insight to share other than nothing?

are you talking about me or you? (but in case you did decide to skip across the forum pages, i gave my latest input on page 46).

[CoS Sarah Jinstar]

n0y0ki wrote...

but of course, as someone paying money for a right to post nothing, continue, please.

Look I get it, you don't share my point of view, however being insulting is prolly not the best way to go about it.

[n0y0ki]

awsome_robot wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...

awsome_robot wrote...

don't bother CoS Sarah Jinstar, n0y0ki's "train has left the station".

and you have some brilliant insight to share other than nothing?

are you talking about me or you? (but in case you did decide to skip across the forum pages, i gave my latest input on page 46).

naaa, talking about myself would dictate therapy.
and no, i havent  skipped anything, this thread or the other 146+ that got locked.
your posts are about the same as the others, give or take a few.

[n0y0ki]

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...

but of course, as someone paying money for a right to post nothing, continue, please.

Look I get it, you don't share my point of view, however being insulting is prolly not the best way to go about it.

my apologies, i wasnt meaning to be insulting.
i felt you were casting sarcasim, so i simply replied with the same.
i hold no grudge with you , abe, are anyone else.
i just think some of the posts are..well..redone.
but anyways, i do apologise if you think i was insulting you personally, i was not.

Modifié par n0y0ki, 23 janvier 2010 - 09:56 .

[rogue1983]

http://social.biowar...726417/1#728232

[Kurokenshi]

addiction21 wrote...

And now its time for the daily warning from a mod...

Why dude why?

Anyway back on topic, I actually have nothing to rant about. Happy to hear changes are in the works.

[n0y0ki]

Kurokenshi wrote...

Why dude why?

Anyway back on topic, I actually have nothing to rant about. Happy to hear changes are in the works.

yay indeed.
btw, ill have to give your sig a try and see if waffles are the cure all end all :happy:

[Abriael_CG]

n0y0ki wrote...
agreed again, does that mean the insistant call for ceos to answer, and calls for update news every 30 minutes are over?
then i bow to you ser, and respect your intelligence.

They have been for a while. What I wrote today was just a reply to someone that barged on the thread insulting the intelligence of everyone that dared to question bioware's actions

I STILL think that an apology would be in order, given that the only apology I see was directed to 360 users, like they were the only ones affected, It'd be, at the very least, a sign of good will and of the fact that they know that they screwed up badly in front of their customer base.
But alas. If  better communication AND a well warranted public apology is not an option, between better communication with no apology and nothing, i will (begrudgingly) chose the former. It's definitely better than nothing.

I can only HOPE that Bioware will have the humility to learn something from this communication debacle (the communication part is much more serious, in my opinion, than the actual performance issue). They will definitely need this learning experience when they'll tackle the MMO market, unless they want their KOTOR mmorpg go the way of the dodo.

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 23 janvier 2010 - 10:11 .