Shakes McQueen wrote...
Poisd2Strike wrote...
For those who make the argument that you bought Bioware / MS Points but didn’t get what you paid for, you are clearly mistaken. Unless you purchased but did not receive the points THEMSELVES, you got EXACTLY what you paid for. Purchasing Bioware / MS Points with theINTENTION of purchasing Return to Ostagar with THOSE points is not the same as purchasing Return to Ostagar. If you feel differently, then perhaps you should start a class action lawsuit claiming “consumer fraud” and see how fast you get laughed out of court by any reasonable Judge / Jury. Some have indicated they wouldn’t accept a refund even if one was offered. This shows how unreasonable some of you are.
While this is technically true, it's an incredibly pedantic argument. People don't buy Bioware/MS points, just for the joy of having Bioware/MS points - they are a form of online currency, used to buy things of actual value.
A valid analogy to what some people are having to deal with, wouldbe walking into a store to buy a game, giving the cashier your money, and then them telling you to come back on some unspecified date to get what you paid for.
Is it literally or legally the same? Of course not. But that is irrelevant - people are venting frustration, not lawyering up for a class action lawsuit.
- Scott
No, it is NOT a valid analogy.
The MS or Bioware points are you putting money towards credit, and that credit can be used for future purchases.
The only valid analogy would be like getting a gift card or gift certificate.
You paid $25 for a gift card to Amazon or Gamestop or Borders or wherever, with the intent of using that game card to buy something that was supposed to come out today. But when today rolls around the release date on that something is pushed back. Well, wait, you PAID $25 for that item, right, and now you are being screwed, right? No, you paid $25 for a voucher, a holder, a credit, that you intended to then trade for said item. That is the only valid analogy.
Pre-payments, buying something but them being told it's on back-order, or any other analogy fails to see the two step-process of
1 - Paying money for another form of purhcasing power (like a gift certificate, or in the specific case here the MS or Bioware points)
2 - Using that form of purchasing power to get the actual goods that you want (in this case, the game content that was delayed.)
There are many stores that have a similar set-up, before you start saying that no store does this. I worked at a video rental store when I was in college that you could prepay money onto your account and then when you rented something you could pull the money from your prepaid account. Pretty much every store has gift cards or gift certificates, gas stations and fast food restaurants have cards that you can put money on, etc.
THAT is a comparable analogy to the MS points and the Bioware points.
Now you could argue about the relative intelligence of having a barrier between what you want to purchase and your money (having to get the points first before getting the software), but anyone who uses a credit card or a checking account is ALREADY doing that at one level so it would be something of a "yeah, but I don't want THIS PARTICULAR barrier."
*shrug*
You weren't ripped off. You want the monetary value of your gift card back, go try and argue that with any store that grants gift cards or gift receipts. Depending on the stink your raise and the manager on duty, you MIGHT get your money back - but more often than not you probably won't.
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This argument is so very, very tired.
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