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No sillier than whats going on here, to be honest.


I agree, its absolutely silly that an hour long DLC is almost a month late and we still pretty much have no new information on it than we did 3 weeks ago.

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Modifié par Feraele, 25 janvier 2010 - 08:41 .


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CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

Thats a pretty silly thing to say. Having an opinion is one thing,
but when it completely contradicts standard business practice for the
entire industry you're talking about, expect to be debated on it.

 


and of course you know the entire legal system regarding the entire industry of business, correct?
hyperbole.-_-

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and of course you know the entire legal system regarding the entire industry of business, correct?
hyperbole.-_-


Obviously I meant the game industry in regards to release dates. Since you know, Bioware makes video games,  Which isn't really debatable as a retailer like Gamestop or Amazon for example does not offer presales on sku items they don't at least have a tentative release date for.

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sprybry wrote...
this is true.  once the release window has been set, then retailers will start the preorders.  of course, the product can still be delayed past the window...


And if that happens, the developer will give them a new one, otherwise the retailers will eat their face :D


unfortunately, most delays (whether music, movies, or games) are not announced by the developer or distributor until the last minute (which is why the last minute pullout by bioware on jan. 4th didn't surprise me).  and sometimes the new release date is another window, not a specific date.  the retailer simply posts notification of the delay, and deals with any disgruntled customers.  this happens all the time with all types of media.

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CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

You can't have it both ways Fera. Retailers don't start offering preorders unless they at least have a tentative release date.


Some websites in NZ actually put games like Diablo III on their websites with a release date of Dec 2010 (they can't go into the next year it seems) even though we know that won't be the case....

eg: http://www.mightyape...lo-III/1563171/

:D

Modifié par MprezdNZ, 24 janvier 2010 - 02:47 .


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But the customer can cancel the preorder right? From what I gather, people cannot get their Bioware points back as easily.

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Double post so editing

So from the post below me, it would seem that the core comparisson between a pre-order and what happened with the Bioware points and announced and canceled release is not really relevant.

The main point would be that Bioware mislead (even if not deceived) their customers to think that they would be buying the product that very day, which made said customers buy the points. This is the real point of disagreement, it seems.

Modifié par Fexelea, 24 janvier 2010 - 02:54 .


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Fexelea wrote...

But the customer can cancel the preorder right? From what I gather, people cannot get their Bioware points back as easily.


yes, preorders can be cancelled.  actual product is different from a points system.

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MprezdNZ wrote...

CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

You can't have it both ways Fera. Retailers don't start offering preorders unless they at least have a tentative release date.


Some websites in NZ actually put games like Diablo III on their websites with a release date of Dec 2010 (they can't go into the next year it seems) even though we know that won't be the case....

eg: http://www.mightyape...lo-III/1563171/

:D


They can in the US, not sure if theres a rule against that in Euro teritories though.

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CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

n0y0ki wrote...


and of course you know the entire legal system regarding the entire industry of business, correct?
hyperbole.-_-


Obviously I meant the game industry in regards to release dates. Since you know, Bioware makes video games,  Which isn't really debatable as a retailer like Gamestop or Amazon for example does not offer presales on sku items they don't at least have a tentative release date for.


youve been the one all about facts and said comments, i simply went by what you yourself said.:whistle:

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youve been the one all about facts and said comments, i simply went by what you yourself said.:whistle:


Sorry didn't realize you needed it explicately spelt out for you. I often forget that common sense is a rariety these days.

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Double post so editing

So from the post below me, it would seem that the core comparisson between a pre-order and what happened with the Bioware points and announced and canceled release is not really relevant.

The main point would be that Bioware mislead (even if not deceived) their customers to think that they would be buying the product that very day, which made said customers buy the points. This is the real point of disagreement, it seems.


yeah for someone on a console it probably isn't as big of a deal as they (360 users especially) have a ton of content they can get. Whereas pc users are really stuck - especially if they don't want ME2 at all. 

A lot of people wouldn't have bought the points if they had known it would not have been out yet. I bought points but I am not too concerned as I will get it whenever it comes. And if it doesn't, you will be able to use the points for Awakening anyway. 

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MprezdNZ wrote...

yeah for someone on a console it probably isn't as big of a deal as they (360 users especially) have a ton of content they can get. Whereas pc users are really stuck - especially if they don't want ME2 at all. 

A lot of people wouldn't have bought the points if they had known it would not have been out yet. I bought points but I am not too concerned as I will get it whenever it comes. And if it doesn't, you will be able to use the points for Awakening anyway. 


I wouldn't have thats for sure. Kinda stinks for me personally since I'll be playing ME2 on the 360 since thats the platform my ME1 saves are.

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Wow....I mean....wow. Still the same......vocal.....minority complaining. Do you people seriously have nothing better to do on a saturday night but sit here in the forums ****ing about 5 bucks and a 1 - 2 hour dlc? /facepalm



Well, I'm going dancing....have fun with your F5 key.


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It's Sunday Morning. Better than Church.

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CoS Sarah Jinstar wrote...

MprezdNZ wrote...

yeah for someone on a console it probably isn't as big of a deal as they (360 users especially) have a ton of content they can get. Whereas pc users are really stuck - especially if they don't want ME2 at all. 

A lot of people wouldn't have bought the points if they had known it would not have been out yet. I bought points but I am not too concerned as I will get it whenever it comes. And if it doesn't, you will be able to use the points for Awakening anyway. 


I wouldn't have thats for sure. Kinda stinks for me personally since I'll be playing ME2 on the 360 since thats the platform my ME1 saves are.


I would have thought they would have made it so that you could use the bioware points - I mean it is a Bioware game. I understand it would be a logistical nightmare, but still some way of easily crediting them over and tagging that they only be used for Bioware games would have been good. I'll be getting ME2 on the 360 as well. I don't have any saves worth porting over, but I just feel it plays better as a console game than a pc game. Even though it feels like KOTOR, which I personally hated on the xbox and thought was great on the pc, it must be the sole shooter aspect of it or that you are actively holding shoot - not point and clicking. If it had swords I would probably want the pc version though ^_^

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_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow....I mean....wow. Still the same......vocal.....minority complaining. Do you people seriously have nothing better to do on a saturday night but sit here in the forums ****ing about 5 bucks and a 1 - 2 hour dlc? /facepalm

Well, I'm going dancing....have fun with your F5 key.


I don't. I am a social retard. Thanks for pointing it out and bringing up the painful memories of being ridiculed at parties and social events. 

You`re a real star

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MprezdNZ wrote...

I would have thought they would have made it so that you could use the bioware points - I mean it is a Bioware game. I understand it would be a logistical nightmare, but still some way of easily crediting them over and tagging that they only be used for Bioware games would have been good. I'll be getting ME2 on the 360 as well. I don't have any saves worth porting over, but I just feel it plays better as a console game than a pc game. Even though it feels like KOTOR, which I personally hated on the xbox and thought was great on the pc, it must be the sole shooter aspect of it or that you are actively holding shoot - not point and clicking. If it had swords I would probably want the pc version though ^_^


Its prolly a Microsoft thing since I'm sure its mandatory they have  their piece of the pie. I agree though. I felt ME played much better on a console but then again the 360 was the lead sku so its not all that suprising.

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_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow....I mean....wow. Still the same......vocal.....minority complaining. Do you people seriously have nothing better to do on a saturday night but sit here in the forums ****ing about 5 bucks and a 1 - 2 hour dlc? /facepalm

Well, I'm going dancing....have fun with your F5 key.



Yeah, I enjoy dancing in front of my computer too, but it doesn't mean I'm going anywhere.

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oh well, so much for this sub-forum, moving on.

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_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow....I mean....wow. Still the
same......vocal.....minority complaining. Do you people seriously have
nothing better to do on a saturday night but sit here in the forums
****ing about 5 bucks and a 1 - 2 hour dlc? /facepalm

Well, I'm going dancing....have fun with your F5 key.


So this is you :D I get it now...


On a side note, I always love the ones that come on forums screaming "I have a real life! Look at me! I'm going dancing with my beautiful blonde bombshell girlfriend! I have a real life! I'm not like you all!  Pay me attention!" :innocent:

I can almost feel the smell of basement dwelling and unwashed armpits all the way from their homes to here :whistle:

Modifié par Abriael_CG, 24 janvier 2010 - 03:43 .


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_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow....I mean....wow. Still the
same......vocal.....minority complaining. Do you people seriously have
nothing better to do on a saturday night but sit here in the forums
****ing about 5 bucks and a 1 - 2 hour dlc? /facepalm

Well, I'm going dancing....have fun with your F5 key.


So this is you :D I get it now...


On a side note, I always love the ones that come on forums screaming "I have a real life! Look at me! I'm going dancing with my beautiful blonde bombshell girlfriend! I have a real life! I'm not like you all!  Pay me attention!" :innocent:

I can almost feel the smell of basement dwelling and unwashed armpits all the way from their homes to here :whistle:


as he calls up, "Ma, what's for dinner?"

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sprybry wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow....I mean....wow. Still the
same......vocal.....minority complaining. Do you people seriously have
nothing better to do on a saturday night but sit here in the forums
****ing about 5 bucks and a 1 - 2 hour dlc? /facepalm

Well, I'm going dancing....have fun with your F5 key.


So this is you :D I get it now...


On a side note, I always love the ones that come on forums screaming "I have a real life! Look at me! I'm going dancing with my beautiful blonde bombshell girlfriend! I have a real life! I'm not like you all!  Pay me attention!" :innocent:

I can almost feel the smell of basement dwelling and unwashed armpits all the way from their homes to here :whistle:


as he calls up, "Ma, what's for dinner?"



Don't mind the empty bottles of Mountain Dew and crusty plates.

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DeadJediJamie wrote...

sprybry wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

Wow....I mean....wow. Still the
same......vocal.....minority complaining. Do you people seriously have
nothing better to do on a saturday night but sit here in the forums
****ing about 5 bucks and a 1 - 2 hour dlc? /facepalm

Well, I'm going dancing....have fun with your F5 key.


So this is you :D I get it now...


On a side note, I always love the ones that come on forums screaming "I have a real life! Look at me! I'm going dancing with my beautiful blonde bombshell girlfriend! I have a real life! I'm not like you all!  Pay me attention!" :innocent:

I can almost feel the smell of basement dwelling and unwashed armpits all the way from their homes to here :whistle:


as he calls up, "Ma, what's for dinner?"



Don't mind the empty bottles of Mountain Dew and crusty plates.



lol...and the moldy, half-eaten spam sandwiches  Posted Image