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Gay Qunari companion?

Débuté par Zeta42 , août 25 2013 04:51

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:32

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ME3 BioWares's romances were are complete ****.

Fixed that up for ya

No you didn't. I have no issue with the nature and content of any specific romance. What I object to in Mass Effect is the ridiculous imbalance in favour of content for straight males.

hmmm they got... Ashley, Miranda if romanced in 2, Jack if romanced in 2, Tali if romanced in 2.

Liara, Kelly Chambers, Diana Allers.

Seven potential sex partners for straight male Shepard. Four for lesbian Shepard and only two each for straight female Shepard and gay male Shepard.


Come on now, Diana Allers is nowhere near worthy of being called a romance 

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:33

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BasilKarlo wrote...

Could we please stop reducing every character to their sexual orientation? It's REALLY starting to anger me.


^ This. How about just focusing on just good quality characters and fixing the mistakes of the previous games rather than pestering Bioware on making the followers avaiable for sex

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:34

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Well, why do people want a Qunari companion in the first place, if for no other reason than "Qunari are cool"? Even more so, why do some want a romancable female Qunari? They want fanservice, man. That, and humans/dwarves/elves have been in so many franchises they aren't interesting anymore - at least it isn't easy to make them interesting. Qunari, however, are something exclusive to DA.
What I can't quite put my finger on is why Bioware makes certain companions gay and not others. Why Leliana and Zevran, and not Alistair or Morrigan? And why are some companions non-romancable at all? I don't know what goes through their heads when they write romances, but I don't see a romancable Qunari too stretched for their standards. Not even if the Qunari is gay.


And if I recall correctly, Gaider refused the "female Qunari" request. The term I heard used by OTHER people here at BSN was "fetish." If Gaider had said "okay" to that, you'd be fine. But he didn't.

And as for whether they're gay or not, that's his decision.

The most important question is why you're doing it. If it's just because you want to have gay/straight/goat sex in a game...that's probably a problem. If it adds to the character, builds on who they ALREADY ARE, that's another story.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:34

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:35

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AresKeith wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

ME3 BioWares's romances were are complete ****.

Fixed that up for ya

No you didn't. I have no issue with the nature and content of any specific romance. What I object to in Mass Effect is the ridiculous imbalance in favour of content for straight males.

hmmm they got... Ashley, Miranda if romanced in 2, Jack if romanced in 2, Tali if romanced in 2.

Liara, Kelly Chambers, Diana Allers.

Seven potential sex partners for straight male Shepard. Four for lesbian Shepard and only two each for straight female Shepard and gay male Shepard.


Come on now, Diana Allers is nowhere near worthy of being called a romance 


If anything, she should be counted as -1 in the list

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:36

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Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

ME3 BioWares's romances were are complete ****.

Fixed that up for ya

No you didn't. I have no issue with the nature and content of any specific romance. What I object to in Mass Effect is the ridiculous imbalance in favour of content for straight males.

hmmm they got... Ashley, Miranda if romanced in 2, Jack if romanced in 2, Tali if romanced in 2.

Liara, Kelly Chambers, Diana Allers.

Seven potential sex partners for straight male Shepard. Four for lesbian Shepard and only two each for straight female Shepard and gay male Shepard.

Those three are also romancable by FemShep so they don't count

You seem to have missed the "straight" female part.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:36

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AresKeith wrote...
Come on now, Diana Allers is nowhere near worthy of being called a romance 


This. And even including her how is that ratio imbalanced? We're talking about less than 5% of the population here. The numbers in Mass Effect work out quite well for you.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:37

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Annaka wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

ME3 BioWares's romances were are complete ****.

Fixed that up for ya

No you didn't. I have no issue with the nature and content of any specific romance. What I object to in Mass Effect is the ridiculous imbalance in favour of content for straight males.

hmmm they got... Ashley, Miranda if romanced in 2, Jack if romanced in 2, Tali if romanced in 2.

Liara, Kelly Chambers, Diana Allers.

Seven potential sex partners for straight male Shepard. Four for lesbian Shepard and only two each for straight female Shepard and gay male Shepard.

Those three are also romancable by FemShep so they don't count

You seem to have missed the "straight" female part.

He said straight male

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:38

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Seraph Cross wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Could we please stop reducing every character to their sexual orientation? It's REALLY starting to anger me.


^ This. How about just focusing on just good quality characters and fixing the mistakes of the previous games rather than pestering Bioware on making the followers avaiable for sex


LRN2BSN.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:38

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Why? Just because gay and just because Qunari? Is that really all the justification needed for a companion, for an NPC you'll be spending 50 game hours with?

That said, I agree with you on player-sexuality, and honestly if they get rid of that I wouldn't mind this at all. I just dislike the notion of "let's have a gay Qunari just so I can romance him." Seems gimmicky to me.


why not? i think itd be good to have an actual gay companion/li which we havent gotten yet in dragon age, and itd be interesting to see how that would work with qunari culture, what that character might go through, etc. gives us a romance option we havent seen yet and addresses an aspect of the dragon age world that hasnt much been addressed. 

Seraph Cross wrote...

BasilKarlo wrote...

Could we please stop reducing every character to their sexual orientation? It's REALLY starting to anger me.


^ This. How about just focusing on just good quality characters and fixing the mistakes of the previous games rather than pestering Bioware on making the followers avaiable for sex


representation is an important thing, i think its plenty valid. 

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:38

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Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

ME3 BioWares's romances were are complete ****.

Fixed that up for ya

No you didn't. I have no issue with the nature and content of any specific romance. What I object to in Mass Effect is the ridiculous imbalance in favour of content for straight males.

hmmm they got... Ashley, Miranda if romanced in 2, Jack if romanced in 2, Tali if romanced in 2.

Liara, Kelly Chambers, Diana Allers.

Seven potential sex partners for straight male Shepard. Four for lesbian Shepard and only two each for straight female Shepard and gay male Shepard.

Those three are also romancable by FemShep so they don't count

Nonsense, of course they count. Them being bisexual doesn't take away from the options for straight males. 

My problem is that straight male gamers get nearly twice as many options as everyone else.

Even if all the characters were made bisexual, you'd still have a problem because there are twice as many romanceable women as there are men.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:39

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Plaintiff wrote...

ME3's romances were complete ****.

The Laura one was good. :)

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My problem is that straight male gamers get nearly twice as many options as everyone else.

Ahh, I thought you meant the quality of the specific romances and not the total imbalance.

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AresKeith wrote...
Come on now, Diana Allers is nowhere near worthy of being called a romance 

I said sex partners.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:40

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Nonsense, of course they count. Them being bisexual doesn't take away from the options for straight males. 

My problem is that straight male gamers get nearly twice as many options as everyone else.

Even if all the characters were made bisexual, you'd still have a problem because there are twice as many romanceable women as there are men.

Those options are not accesible in game for most playthoughs.  If I romanced Jack in 2, I can't romance Miranda/Tali in 3. 

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why not? i think itd be good to have an actual gay companion/li which we havent gotten yet in dragon age, and itd be interesting to see how that would work with qunari culture, what that character might go through, etc. gives us a romance option we havent seen yet and addresses an aspect of the dragon age world that hasnt much been addressed. 


If you're just doing it so he's gay--if he is defined by his sexuality as another said--it's a bad move.

And as an aside I doubt it matters very much in Qunari culture outside of reproduction. They don't strike me as particularly moralistic. As long as you contribute your two children to the glorious Qun you can probably bang who you want to bang.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

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ME3's romances were complete ****.

The Laura one was good. :)

Laura?

I'm sure they were. The romance content I experienced was high quality, in my opinion. My issue is with the gross imbalance of content in favour of heterosexual men.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:42

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Plaintiff wrote...

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Come on now, Diana Allers is nowhere near worthy of being called a romance 

I said sex partners.


First you talk about romance, now you go sex partners

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:42

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Gay Qunari?

Sure. I'm all for it. So long as the romance ends with your PC suffering from rectal prolapse and dying from internal bleeding. You might as well be asking for your horse to be a potential LI.

In other words....


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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:43

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Plaintiff wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

ME3's romances were complete ****.

The Laura one was good. :)

Laura?

I'm sure they were. The romance content I experienced was high quality, in my opinion. My issue is with the gross imbalance of content in favour of heterosexual men.

The romance content for Miranda and Jack is laughable at best.  Don't act like they got special treatment or anything

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Nonsense, of course they count. Them being bisexual doesn't take away from the options for straight males. 

My problem is that straight male gamers get nearly twice as many options as everyone else.

Even if all the characters were made bisexual, you'd still have a problem because there are twice as many romanceable women as there are men.

Those options are not accesible in game for most playthoughs.  If I romanced Jack in 2, I can't romance Miranda/Tali in 3. 

An irrelevent semantic detail. The difficulty of accessing content is not the issue, the problem is that there is no equivalent for members of the audience who are not straight men.

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Plaintiff wrote...
I'm sure they were. The romance content I experienced was high quality, in my opinion. My issue is with the gross imbalance of content in favour of heterosexual men.

A gross imbalance which does not exist when you consider the percentages of human population in regards to sexual orientation.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:45

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Steelcan wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

ME3's romances were complete ****.

The Laura one was good. :)

Laura?

I'm sure they were. The romance content I experienced was high quality, in my opinion. My issue is with the gross imbalance of content in favour of heterosexual men.

The romance content for Miranda and Jack is laughable at best.  Don't act like they got special treatment or anything

Miranda's was fine. Jack's is the one with issues.

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Posté 25 août 2013 - 05:45

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Plaintiff wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

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Nonsense, of course they count. Them being bisexual doesn't take away from the options for straight males. 

My problem is that straight male gamers get nearly twice as many options as everyone else.

Even if all the characters were made bisexual, you'd still have a problem because there are twice as many romanceable women as there are men.

Those options are not accesible in game for most playthoughs.  If I romanced Jack in 2, I can't romance Miranda/Tali in 3. 

An irrelevent semantic detail. The difficulty of accessing content is not the issue, the problem is that there is no equivalent for members of the audience who are not straight men.

That's not what semantics are
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