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[Dr. Doctor]

I'd like a one-handed warhammer that I could use with a shield and sword warrior build. Longswords, axes, and maces are great but having a little more variation is always good.

[metatheurgist]

...one handed falchion...

Pretty sure those are called scimitars.

...mace with chains...

Yeah, those are flails. Morningstars are spikey maces.

...short sword...

We call those daggers in Thedas.

[The Spirit of Dance]

Well first off The return of Vigilance



Next we can use atleast a couple new weapon types like chain sickle AKA Kusarigama


and some Bladed Tonfa


My last suggestion is the Video game debut of the Gatlock Cannon

[MaraGriffyn]

Blades that actually look sharp and aren't as thick as my arm would be nice...

Also I'd be much more inclined to play the warrior class if they included poleaxes or halberds of some kind.

[scotty0927]

How about some form of early muskets after all if the qunari have begun usiing "gun powder" in battles it would only take one defeat  before the "secret of the gatlock" would be realized by the tevinters, or orleasians, or free marchers.    

[Lokiwithrope]

Fun Fact: People didn't use dual wielding in the middle ages.

[Huntress]

Lokiwithrope wrote...

Fun Fact: People didn't use dual wielding in the middle ages.

The 'Book of the MacSweeneys' was written in the first half of the 16th Century to extol an important family of medieval mercenary warriors in Ireland.

In it an ancestor from the late 13th Century is called 'Eoin na Laimhe Maithe', or 'Owen of the Good Hand'. It says that,

"He carried two swords and with equal dexterity he smote every opponent. He made three portions of every man he hit, and he was the last man in Ireland and in Scotland who employed two swords as with two right hands."

This passage suggests that by the 16th Century dual wielding was seen as simply legendary in Ireland and Scotland.

To carry several weapons is not necessarily to use two of them at once. There's a description of a holmgang from one of the Icelandic sagas in which one of the combatants carries three swords: one in his hand, one at his belt and another dangling from his wrist by a thong. But he also carries a shield, and uses only one at a time. ( There seems to have been a tendency for swords to dull or bend, hence the "backups". )

If I remember correctly, in fact, he started the duel with a spear in addition to the words...

Miyamoto Musashi's Niten Ichi-Ryu. That is the most obvious dual-weilding style.

Musashi only advocated the use of two swords in training, to teach one how to use the long sword one-handed, and against multiple opponents. The name of the school ("Two swords, one school") refers more to the short and long swords of the daisho, as symbolic of the way his strategy covers both the long and the short sword, duels and battles, all combat big and small, rather than to the two long swords used together.


There WERE a few 16th century Italian masters who describe the use of two sideswords (Manciolino, Marozzo, diGrassi, et. al.) who describe using two swords. It is often called 'case of rapiers' but the swords they were describing are Cut & thrust (equally good at doing each). However, it is mostly portrayed as a feat of skill. The masters all say that one must be able to wield a single sword equally well in each hand before using two at once.

[Undead Han]

Polearms

Modifié par Han Shot First, 27 août 2013 - 05:32 .

[Vaeliorin]

Volus Warlord wrote...
Aztec Club(Sword?)

That's a macuahuitl, and, so far as I know, it's used as a sword. It's wood with obsidian along the edges.

As for weapons I'd like to see, the first thing that springs to mind that I don't recall seeing mentioned so far is the quarterstaff.

Just as long as I'm never stuck wielding a khopesh, though, I'll be happy. I know they're a real weapon, but I just think they look silly.

Modifié par Vaeliorin, 27 août 2013 - 05:33 .

[Thresh the Qunari]

polearms maybe for the mage so they have someing other then just staffs

Modifié par Thresh the Qunari, 27 août 2013 - 05:36 .

[Phate Phoenix]

Thresh the Qunari wrote...

polearms maybe for the mage so they have someing other then just staffs

They kind of did this in DA2, didn't they? Sort of. It was all very pretty slicing with their bladed staffs. But I do agree with this: a primarily melee polearm for mages would be awesome. Something that maybe gave a character a hit to, say, willpower or magic but boosted strength.

I just really want polearms, guys.

[Jarlan23]

It would be cool to have Spears. Maybe a spear and a shield. Though I won't get my hopes up, there's hardly any spears in RPGs. I guess they aren't worth the effort to animate most of the time.

[Volus Warlord]

Vaeliorin wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...
Aztec Club(Sword?)

That's a macuahuitl, and, so far as I know, it's used as a sword. It's wood with obsidian along the edges.

As for weapons I'd like to see, the first thing that springs to mind that I don't recall seeing mentioned so far is the quarterstaff.

Just as long as I'm never stuck wielding a khopesh, though, I'll be happy. I know they're a real weapon, but I just think they look silly.

Maybe have a group use them as improvised weapons? *shrugs*

[Undead Han]

Redgoon23 wrote...

It would be cool to have Spears. Maybe a spear and a shield. Though I won't get my hopes up, there's hardly any spears in RPGs. I guess they aren't worth the effort to animate most of the time.

It is kind of interesting in a way that spears and other polearms are so underrepresented in both film and video games. Historically polearms have been far more common weapons on the battlefield than swords.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Pikes, classy and effective. Spears are crappy and Halberds are over-powered.

[Volus Warlord]

Han Shot First wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

It would be cool to have Spears. Maybe a spear and a shield. Though I won't get my hopes up, there's hardly any spears in RPGs. I guess they aren't worth the effort to animate most of the time.

It is kind of interesting in a way that spears and other polearms are so underrepresented in both film and video games. Historically polearms have been far more common weapons on the battlefield than swords.

At first, because metals weren't high enough quality to make a reliable sword. After that, mostly because they were cheaper. 

Everyone wants to be top notch.

[Volus Warlord]

Also, this is what a staged spear fight look like. Not all too entertaining. Note that they transition to swords as soon as possible.

Modifié par Volus Warlord, 27 août 2013 - 05:52 .

[Abraham_uk]

SergeantSnookie wrote...

Just...nothing like this anymore...

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130311212317/dragonage/images/6/6e/Hayder's_Razor.png

Please.

Throw me into the realistic looking weapon group too.

Reminds me. I need a shave.

[Undead Han]

Volus Warlord wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

It would be cool to have Spears. Maybe a spear and a shield. Though I won't get my hopes up, there's hardly any spears in RPGs. I guess they aren't worth the effort to animate most of the time.

It is kind of interesting in a way that spears and other polearms are so underrepresented in both film and video games. Historically polearms have been far more common weapons on the battlefield than swords.

At first, because metals weren't high enough quality to make a reliable sword. After that, mostly because they were cheaper. 

Everyone wants to be top notch.

Polearms are indeed cheaper to manufacture than swords since less metal is involved, but they are no less effective than swords. The bit about swords being a better weapon that replaced polearms as metalworking improved is also a bit of a popular myth. Some of the most famous soldiers of the Renaissance period, a period which was the twilight of melee weapons, were armed with pikes. The Swiss Landsknechte are a prime example. In Asia during the same period the samurai also predominatlly fought with polearms, rather than swords. It was gunpowder, and not swords, that finally rendered polearms obsolete.

Even warriors from some earlier periods that people tend to imagine as being armed with swords, like the Vikings or German barbarians who fought against Rome...were predominantly armed with spears. In fact one popular theory for the origin of the Latin word Germani, was that it was derived from the Old High German word Gêr, which meant spear, and Man, which retains its ancient meaning even today. If that theory is correct than Germania (Germany) quite literally means land of the spear men.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 27 août 2013 - 06:17 .

[Volus Warlord]

Han Shot First wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Redgoon23 wrote...

It would be cool to have Spears. Maybe a spear and a shield. Though I won't get my hopes up, there's hardly any spears in RPGs. I guess they aren't worth the effort to animate most of the time.

It is kind of interesting in a way that spears and other polearms are so underrepresented in both film and video games. Historically polearms have been far more common weapons on the battlefield than swords.

At first, because metals weren't high enough quality to make a reliable sword. After that, mostly because they were cheaper. 

Everyone wants to be top notch.

Polearms are indeed cheaper to manufacture than swords since less metal is involved, but they are no less effective than swords. The bit about swords being a better weapon that replaced polearms as metalworking improved is also a bit of a popular myth. Some of the most famous soldiers of the Renaissance period, a period which was the twilight of melee weapons, were armed with pikes. The Swiss Landsknechte are a prime example. In Asia during the same period the samurai also predominatlly fought with polearms, rather than swords.

Even warriors from some earlier periods that people tend to imagine as being armed with swords, like the Vikings or German barbarians who fought against Rome...were in fact predominantly armed with spears.

Swords were a rich man's weapon, and peeps wanna feel rich! 

[Steelcan]

Kopis

[Steelcan]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Also, this is what a staged spear fight look like. Not all too entertaining. Note that they transition to swords as soon as possible.

Emphasis on "staged".


Also, they don't transition to sword as soon as possible, the destroy the spear as soon as possible, for good reason.

Also, if we get polearms, please no spear'n'shield style. That is reserved for formation warfare, single combat with polearms was always favoured to use the polearm alone with both hands.

Spears, yes please. Spears and shield in tandem, only if I get to bring an army with me and said army is clever enough to use formations. If not, keep the shield, it's only additional weight you can't use.

Depends,

Many ancient warriors used the shield as a weapon.

[Undead Han]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

Also, this is what a staged spear fight look like. Not all too entertaining. Note that they transition to swords as soon as possible.

Emphasis on "staged".


Also, they don't transition to sword as soon as possible, the destroy the spear as soon as possible, for good reason.

Also, if we get polearms, please no spear'n'shield style. That is reserved for formation warfare, single combat with polearms was always favoured to use the polearm alone with both hands.

Spears, yes please. Spears and shield in tandem, only if I get to bring an army with me and said army is clever enough to use formations. If not, keep the shield, it's only additional weight you can't use.

That also isn't quite trule. A spear-and-shield is viable in solo combat. In fact there was a popular gladiator type called a Hoplomachus who was armed and equipped in that manner, and who fought against opponents armed with swords.