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[leaguer of one]

If Corypheus had total control over the Grey Wardens how did they capture him in the first place?

Non- warden help, Like Malcolm Hawke.

[leaguer of one]

It's neither blatant nor obvious to me, even after you point it out. I never saw a "villainous" smile and the lines the Wardens speak - if they're indeed identical - are generic lines easily explained by the writers' reluctance to write more unique lines than necessary. Also, you only notice this if you play the sequence twice - and even then... I never did even I did play it twice because it was in two games far apart. Any hint with meaning would be noticeable in one game.

No, Corypheus is dead. I'd be extremely surprised if he was ever intended to survive. If it turns out he did, I'll be convinced the writers retconned it to make a fan theory true.

1. You're going to be surprised.

2. Explain why his eyes went black.

[leaguer of one]

and you use occams broom to sweep inconvenient facts under the carpet.

dont get me wrong, i dont entirely disagree with you. so far the solid fact is that corypheus is dead.

however, at first they talk about mind control. then near the end ''my gratitude you have, for returning me to myself. i feel like... a whole new person.'' with eerie music coming into play. now generally when some person pauses during eerie music in a movie/game then **** is either about to go down, something bad has happened or they imply something.

not to mention with the other warden you got the ''you sound different'' convo option. after corypheus is gone.

http://youtu.be/H75LLsENX4g?t=8m20s

it is circumstantial evidence at best, but still its more then just a hunch or wild speculation.

it's your right to feel that way about writing. but the thing is; if corypheus really has the power to subvert a person/warden/darkspawn. then you havent really killed him off.  we just arent entirely aware if he does or does not have this ability. it's not bad writing if you'd like a plot twist. and if an demon can take over a person, then why cant some very powerfull old tainted mage? it can easily be part of the lore. if the writers choose it to be part of the lore (if they already havent) i personally think it highly plausible for corypheus to have subverted the warden.

 

The same can be said about Fiona being Alistair's Mother before bw had to 100% confirm it.

[RevilFox]

I didn't notice anything at the time, but after reading through most of this thread and watching it again...I think there's enough there to justify him being alive, if that's where the story goes.

[sky_captain]

I don't get why so many people here are dismissive of the idea that Cory might still be alive. I just rewatched the ending with both Janeka and Larius with both there is small pause between the crippling blow and the death blow where his eyes change and either Janeka or Larius stumble (it's easiest to see with the mage finisher.) Then there is the final line where their sentence structure changes to mimic Cory's, (que creepy music) "My gratitude you have, for returning me to myself. I feel like ...... a whole new person."

[Ieldra]

I can't help but think that by continuing the argument, I'm just feeding the trolls, but anyway ...
 
Anyone even remotely familiar with the concept of foreshadowing in fiction should at the very least be left with a rather unsettling feeling of "something isn't right here" when they finish Legacy. The thematic use of creepy music, change in vocal tones and body language, and the blatant mimicry of a line actually used by Corypheus, "Thank you for freeing me" with the surviving Warden all hint that everything is not as it seems in this moment.

The thing is, this isn't at all obvious since "Thank you for returning me to myself" can as easily apply to freeing Larius from Corypheus' influence AND Larius has used odd speech patterns before. I also don't recall that Corypheus used a similar line before.
 
If he's alive - and things do look odd once you look at them from a certain angle and I now agree he probably is - then Bioware has been somewhat subtle for a change. I like that. I haven't seen it. The latter annoys me but no big deal.

@leaguer of one:
My post you quoted is more than a year old. People sometimes change their opinion.

[Hibernating]

There are people who think Corypheus died? did you play the DLC?



The deliberate look at whichever grey warden you sided with right as he's about to die, that grey warden randomly stumbling. That grey warden immediately changing personality.....? Larius goes from almost entirely ghoul, cant walk straight and cant talk without a lisp to standing upright and talking fine.

Also, when Cassandra talks to Varric after the DLC is finished she said that Larius/Janeka are not mentioned by the grey wardens at all, and Varric tells her the story isn't over yet.

There is literally 0% chance hes not coming back in inquisition, especially given the footage we have seen of inquisition troops fighting grey wardens.

 

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And the leaked achievement list.

[Gtdef]

If I was a betting man, I'd bet on Corypheus being alive. And since I'm a betting man, I'll bet on Corypheus being alive. First guy that disagrees and quotes this post will get all of my likes for a month after confirmation.  I don't even want anything in return ^^

[Orthiad]

In my opinion he is alive for the reasons already stated here.

 

This is also what the official Dragon age site has to say about it: "Hawke enters the Warden prison in the Vimmark Mountains and attempts to destroy Corypheus. History is vague on when exactly this occurs".

 

I think if he was dead it would say so and not "attempts to destroy Corypheus".

[volkoff]

There are people who think Corypheus died? did you play the DLC?



The deliberate look at whichever grey warden you sided with right as he's about to die, that grey warden randomly stumbling. That grey warden immediately changing personality.....? Larius goes from almost entirely ghoul, cant walk straight and cant talk without a lisp to standing upright and talking fine.

Also, when Cassandra talks to Varric after the DLC is finished she said that Larius/Janeka are not mentioned by the grey wardens at all, and Varric tells her the story isn't over yet.

There is literally 0% chance hes not coming back in inquisition, especially given the footage we have seen of inquisition troops fighting grey wardens.

 

SPOILERS




And the leaked achievement list.

 

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ah, just checked the leaked achievements. i guess we can lay this discussion to rest. we're gonna see cory in DA:I. btw, any chance it might be the big spiderish creature being controlled by cory ? we see hawke there. 

[JeffZero]

I'm glad the

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leaked achievements

were brought up. That's the clincher for me, even if I would rather it weren't true (at least as of now; maybe I'll come around. I just wish Hawke could have had that one huge victory, heh.

[Siripho]

It surprises me that no mention seems to have been made of this from the timeline on the Inquisition site:

 

"9:31 Dragon

 

HAWK ATTEMPTS TO DESTROY CORYPHEUS

 

Hawk enters the Warden prison in the Vimmark Mountains and attempts to destroy Corypheus."

 

Attempts. I would say that was pretty conclusive.

[MrMrPendragon]

I think Cory being human has something to do with him jumping to a Warden that doesn't die after.

 

The taint hasn't consumed him fully, meaning he still has a "soul" that merges or takes over the host's soul. Or, he has mastery of the taint. If what he said is true - they did make it to the Golden City - then he would've been exposed to the taint in its pure form. He must have gotten the magic/enhancing side of the taint but not the poison side.

[JeffZero]

It surprises me that no mention seems to have been made of this from the timeline on the Inquisition site:

 

"9:31 Dragon

 

HAWK ATTEMPTS TO DESTROY CORYPHEUS

 

Hawk enters the Warden prison in the Vimmark Mountains and attempts to destroy Corypheus."

 

Attempts. I would say that was pretty conclusive.

 

Yep, of all the things to post on a relatively sparse timeline, too.