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[Volus Warlord]

ShadyKat wrote...

Romances have always been optional. Don't want a romance, reject any advances, and play the game as you want. Of all the things to complain about, romances are pretty small time, compared to other issues.

Rofl:lol:

Romances are pretty small time, compared to other elements. Of all the things to promote, they seem pretty trivial.

[billy the squid]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

still waiting for that desire demon romance.

Broodmother > Desire Demon. You know this to be true.

Nug love > Broodmother > Desire Demon

[Inquisitor Recon]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

still waiting for that desire demon romance.

Broodmother > Desire Demon. You know this to be true.

Aye but she has more mass/content than all of the other LIs combined, thats obviously going to be DLC.

[Volus Warlord]

billy the squid wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

still waiting for that desire demon romance.

Broodmother > Desire Demon. You know this to be true.

Nug love > Broodmother > Desire Demon

Nug Fighting/gambling ring > Nug Love

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Volus Warlord wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

still waiting for that desire demon romance.

Broodmother > Desire Demon. You know this to be true.

Nug love > Broodmother > Desire Demon

Nug Fighting/gambling ring > Nug Love

Flemeth love trumps all.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Marten Stroud wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Volus Warlord wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...

still waiting for that desire demon romance.

Broodmother > Desire Demon. You know this to be true.

Nug love > Broodmother > Desire Demon

Nug Fighting/gambling ring > Nug Love

Flemeth love trumps all.

Zombie Andraste love ftw

I am the Maker!

[DarthSideus2]

tiktac wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Romances.

Can't live with them... can't have a Bioware game without 'em... amiright?!

In all seriousness, I think romances should be completely abandoned in a random Bioware game. I'm not saying it should be DA:I, or ME4, or what. But they should just not have a game with romances... and tell no one about it beforehand. Just come out with a game and <BAM> no romances.


Just so you'd see the true colors of people and find out if they really are playing the games because they like the games, or because they really want to engage in romance content.

oh man yeah god forbid someone like the game for a different aspect than you right cause its completely impossible to like the game while mostly enjoying the romance 

exactly why is it a problem that some people like the game for the romance 

are they holding you at gunpoint forcing you to engage in zevrans massage

are they bombing bioware headquarters if their fave isnt romanceable 

do tell 

Bionuts wrote...

I understand wanting romance in the game, but there does come a point when all of these requests for one night stands, sexual scenes, huggy wuggy, kissing, etc., can be a bit much.

I don't ever want Bioware to be some front for people wanting to "free" themselves from imaginary bonds.

what

Yeah, you tell em. And don't take away my Isabela three ways either!!!

But seriously, romance is a big part of the Bioware game experience and I hope they keep it. People are always complaining about games that don't get them involved emotionally, or they could care less if their companions lived or died. I think a LI changes that idea for most people. My favorite was in KOTOR with Revan and Bastila where she gets captured, then joins the other side. You then have to choose between saving, joining, or killing her. That choice is made a lot less significant if she is not your LI. I hope they have this kind of choice in DAI.

[Renmiri1]

DarthSliver wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

I don't mind nudity, but getting horny playing video games is very, very, awkward.

I understand that, I stay away from Anime porn because it feels awkward watching. How people drew it amazes me

Errr... You guys heard of this newfangled thing called the Internets ?

In it there's the saying, almost like a "natural law" that says if it exists there is porn about it. An outdated saying as there are lots of porn about things that never existed and will never exist. 

I think your quest to regulate and mandate the sexuality of other people is foollish but to each his own.

But it has nothing to do with romance in games. Romance may or may not involve sex and videogames aren't selling sex or porn. At least not the ones Bioware or EA are selling. 

What is in game is a relationship and trust and affection. Things you also may not have experienced or heard about or have some reservations about having in a videogame.

Which I understand. I abhor blood and guts and gore. Sounds sick and weird to me and actually disgusts me but hey, more power to you if you love it. I have no problem with you loving it and prefering to have blood and dismemberment and beheadings to romance. To each his own. I'm fine with my games getting gore and blood splatter, and I hope for the ability to toggle that off. But even if the blood and gore is mandatory, I can live with it, if it makes you have your game jollies. It is just pixels after all. They make your little gamers happy ? fine by me.  The more people love a game the better the chances of it having DLCs and next chapters.

I just demand the same treatment and respect to my preferences in RPG storytelling. 

Is actually fascinating:

not awkward to the posters above


Disturbs the same 2 posters

Boggles the mind!  

You sure you learned the right lessons in your "Morals I have to shove in front of every other internet user" classes ?

Modifié par Renmiri1, 30 août 2013 - 02:36 .

[Angrywolves]

Some players seem to only want combat in the game.
To kill, commit genocide, destroy things etc
Would be satisfied with DAI just being a hack n slash.
Some of us want more than that.

[Neon Rising Winter]

What I don't get is, you get this level of romance in the average lightweight action movie. No one bats an eyelid. You put it in a video game and the word porn starts coming up, accusations are flung of people projecting unhealthy fantasies onto fictional characters. And we're not talking about the kind of scenes that make you start thinking Rule 34, this is stuff that is so normal it wouldn't be noticed in other media.

It feels like there's some lingering perception, even among gamers, that video games are for social inadequates with no life and any reference to romantic encounters must be a substitute for a sadly lacking reality.

Modifié par Narrow Margin, 30 août 2013 - 02:41 .

[Renmiri1]

Ya being lectured about deviant behavior by people who see this and don't even blink is surely surreal!

[Renmiri1]

Narrow Margin wrote...

What I don't get is, you get this level of romance in the average lightweight action movie. No one bats an eyelid. You put it in a video game and the word porn starts coming up, accusations are flown of people projecting unhealthy fantasies onto fictional characters. And we're not talking about the kind of scenes that make you start thinking Rule 34, this is stuff that is so normal it wouldn't be noticed in other media.

It feels like there's some lingering perception, even among gamers, that video games are for social inadequates with no life and any reference to romantic encounters must be a substitute for a sadly lacking reality.

Is the "cooties factor"

Those gamers feel they can't boast to friends they just spent 10 hours playing Dragon Age because  - gasp - Dragon Age has love stories!!!! And ******'s!!! How can they ever tell anyone or let any friend see the game cd cover ??? Everyone will think they got some ****** transexual gay gay gay cooties!!! 

How they can feel manly playing a game they like if it has cooties on it and people know about it ? No one will believe they are men after that !!! Because being a manly man is about appearances and what others think of you. / eyeroll

Insecure pre pubescent males and their worries.. Would be funny if they weren't trying to spoil the game I like to play. 

Modifié par Renmiri1, 30 août 2013 - 02:48 .

[ObserverStatus]

billy the squid wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Inquisitor Recon wrote...
still waiting for that desire demon romance.

Broodmother > Desire Demon. You know this to be true.

Nug love > Broodmother > Desire Demon

Shuu > Desire Demon > Broodmother > Nug love

[mysterycycle]

Bring on the romance subplots, says I. They're one of the things that I enjoy most about BioWare RPGs.

[Ninja Stan]

Let's try to keep this discussion on topic, please.

[septembervirgin]

I think dating games could leave more to the imagination without losing much substance.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Angrywolves wrote...

Some players seem to only want combat in the game.
To kill, commit genocide, destroy things etc
Would be satisfied with DAI just being a hack n slash.
Some of us want more than that.

Generalizations only make you seem uninformed.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Renmiri1 wrote...

Narrow Margin wrote...

What I don't get is, you get this level of romance in the average lightweight action movie. No one bats an eyelid. You put it in a video game and the word porn starts coming up, accusations are flown of people projecting unhealthy fantasies onto fictional characters. And we're not talking about the kind of scenes that make you start thinking Rule 34, this is stuff that is so normal it wouldn't be noticed in other media.

It feels like there's some lingering perception, even among gamers, that video games are for social inadequates with no life and any reference to romantic encounters must be a substitute for a sadly lacking reality.

Is the "cooties factor"

Those gamers feel they can't boast to friends they just spent 10 hours playing Dragon Age because  - gasp - Dragon Age has love stories!!!! And ******'s!!! How can they ever tell anyone or let any friend see the game cd cover ??? Everyone will think they got some ****** transexual gay gay gay cooties!!! 

How they can feel manly playing a game they like if it has cooties on it and people know about it ? No one will believe they are men after that !!! Because being a manly man is about appearances and what others think of you. / eyeroll

Insecure pre pubescent males and their worries.. Would be funny if they weren't trying to spoil the game I like to play. 

Generalizations only make you seem uninformed.

[Cainhurst Crow]

So anyone whose against the over-emphasized importance of a single story mechanic in bioware games and wish for there to be more quality over quantity method with the contect are, according to the thread, homophobic violence fetishist who can't handle emotional content without dudebroing the heck out and have a biased view of video games as being lesser than action movies, because you can't complain about action movies being generic, dull, having tact on love interest, weak plots, etc, for some unknown reason.

And people who desire more close and personal content with their companions and added layer of interaction with them are, according to the thread, sexually depraved sim addicts who need to project themselves into the games and waste money with their creeper ways, because you can't support a fictional story arsc for a character unless it has no impact on anything, or something or other.

This thread is just such a warm and fuzzy den of cooperation and cool headed discussion. Wouldn't you agree?

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 30 août 2013 - 08:18 .

[n7stormrunner]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

So anyone whose against the over-emphasized importance of a single story mechanic in bioware games and wish for there to be more quality over quantity method with the contect are, according to the thread, homophobic violence fetishist who can't handle emotional content without dudebroing the heck out and have a biased view of video games as being lesser than action movies, because you can't complain about action movies being generic, dull, having tact on love interest, weak plots, etc, for some unknown reason.

And people who desire more close and personal content with their companions and added layer of interaction with them are, according to the thread, sexually depraved sim addicts who need to project themselves into the games and waste money with their creeper ways, because you can't support a fictional story arsc for a character unless it has no impact on anything, or something or other.

This thread is just such a warm and fuzzy den of cooperation and cool headed discussion. Wouldn't you agree?

it is a rather amusing thread isn't it?

[Cainhurst Crow]

I'd have used the term immoderately droll myself, but whichever one works for your purview of your conundrums of entertainment.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Xiltas wrote...

Look, I don't want it to be a Dating Sim either, but I think that every good story needs a certain degree of love and romance.

No it doesn't.
Trying to crowbar romance into every friggin story does more to ruin them than help them. Especially for movies. You got limited time to deliver story and explore personalities and the her HAS to get the girl. ALWAYS. (or the heroine has to get the guy).
Quite often the "romance" feels rushes, tacked-on and innaproprite for the situation. (Let's make sweet love on the grave of our dead friends! This battlefield turns me on! We have a decisive battle tommorw - but instead of resting or making better plans, let's go bump uglies for a few hours)

This is what makes a story feel more... real to me.

Human moments make a story feel more real. Believable causes and consequences and events make a story feel more real. Romance is just one of them, and sex even less.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I would like to put out there though, the notion that there are betters ways to implement romances than a simple formula of 4 conversations, and your set to get lucky in bed as your big reward, with the only needed path being "Comfort, Agree, Flatter" in order to succeed. I'd liked to see more curve balls thrown in the romances, or maybe more of a challenge in romancing someone, than just flatery, and definately a better reward than simply sex wouldn't hurt. DAO had an...okay system, until you introduced bribery. And before you jump on me with that "if you don't like it, don't use it" bull, that's not an option in DAO since you need to use the gift system in order to unlock important quest content with the characters. So no, I can't just not use it, because their "friend" content, and their "romance" content, are tied into the same system of approval and disapproval.

I lack an analogy or example I can point out to how romances should be handled, but I know there has to be a more engaging, worthwhile, and meaningful way to have characters hook up than what we have now, and there should be examination of the social interaction system, instead of just "More romance options".

That's my spiel for the evening. Goodnight folks.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 30 août 2013 - 08:55 .