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[KainD]

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

No it is not, there is no BioWare game in which "romances" are an intrinsic part of the game, those elements, instead are intrinsical to those games. I'll bet you can play any BioWare game without having yo partake in any "romance". 

Truly, I wonder what would happen if there was a BioWare game without romances?

You can have a GTA game without boats, and swiming, in GTA 3 water was instant death. Doesn't mean that swimming is for boat games. 

[Bionuts]

The Woldan wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

Twilight might be a sub-par series, but the girl in that pic has a very dangerous, sexy, look....

To be honest, they look very tired.

Not sure how that's relevant in her being sexy.

[Liamv2]

Bioware games both with and without romances would be great.

[Tinxa]

Why is it that mere existence of something in the game that they don't personally want somehow offends some people? Because they don't enjoy it, apparently nobody should.


I never play dwarf characters but I don't go around making threads demanding that Bioware cut the race form the game and make more romances instead because "I certainly don't desire Bioware dwarf simulators".

[Sylvianus]

Liamv2 wrote...

Bioware games both with and without romances would be great.

Agreed.

[cindercatz]

nm, have to respond one time

@Bionuts
Ok, I take your word for it, but your opening posts tend to paint that picture. The rest of my response isn't aimed at you anymore, then. Peace be.

Narrow Margin wrote...

You're right, serious was not the way to go. So then...

I suggest to the romance thread generation and propogation committee (that's all of us) that, given the volume of threads in exitence, and the extreme subjectivity of their approaches, we need to adopt a more scientific method. I therefore propose we:

1. Invent a new unit of measurement for the amount of romance in a game.

2. Develop an accurate and reproducible method of measuring the value of this unit in any game.

3. Apply this to existing games to determine their romance values

4. Use this data to establish preferred minimum and maximum values for the amount of romance in any Bioware RPG.

All those in favour?

  Aye, hear hear!

Best post this week.

/have fun thread

[Bionuts]

Tinxa wrote...


Why is it that mere existence of something in the game that they don't personally want somehow offends some people? Because they don't enjoy it, apparently nobody should.


I never play dwarf characters but I don't go around making threads demanding that Bioware cut the race form the game and make more romances instead because "I certainly don't desire Bioware dwarf simulators".

I should not have to say it a million times. I enjoy the romances in Bioware games. I am in favor of quantity, even when I won't partake in certain features.

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

[Angrywolves]

Not the OP's call to make.
If he doesn't like romances he shouldn't do them.
They certainly won't be mandatory .
So he can focus on how he intends to play the game and not concern himself with how others choose to play it.

[Volus Warlord]

I agree. Dating implies talking.

I do not want to speak. I want to bang. I want nonstop platonic orgies to people with all the major races simultaneously. To not have all the races simultaneously banging would be racist.

[AresKeith]

Bionuts wrote...

Tinxa wrote...


Why is it that mere existence of something in the game that they don't personally want somehow offends some people? Because they don't enjoy it, apparently nobody should.


I never play dwarf characters but I don't go around making threads demanding that Bioware cut the race form the game and make more romances instead because "I certainly don't desire Bioware dwarf simulators".

I should not have to say it a million times. I enjoy the romances in Bioware games. I am in favor of quantity, even when I won't partake in certain features.

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

Which they'll never do (atleast the DA team atm) 

But there's nothing wrong with adding more depth to them

[Angrywolves]

The OP's name explains everything.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Bionuts wrote...
Not sure how that's relevant in her being sexy.

You mentioned dangerous, tired people don't look very dangerous.

[MaraGriffyn]

Bionuts wrote...

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

How much is "too much"? Who would determine the acceptable amount of romance? Are you concerned that the devs are planning to make romance a requirement in DAI? If so, do you have evidence of this?

[Sylvianus]

Dangerous look like very hot I think.

[Sasie]

In my opinion romances isn't so much about a dating sim subplot as about a deeper chance to flesh out our character and roleplay/having someone with us on the adventure beyond friendship. Hawke was not going to break down in tears in Varric's arms because she had a bad day and while Avaline can take some of the heat following a certain murder it's much more fitting to discuss such things with the LI.

A romance interest is also a chance for a bit of drama and putting a personal touch on the adventure through the game. A rival romance with Anders put a whole new spin on the game as you play your character through the years as he/she watch Anders slowly losing control to Justice. In some cases/games it gives a chance for a laugh when there would be none, as is the case with Carth in Kotor.

Can you imagine another scenario where Revan would ever have a chance to say

"Don't tell me not to take it personally you hairless wookie!".

People might call Carth whining but I think he added much to the game with his flirting/discussion about the war and the sith, personal betrayal and distrust of the Jedi leading up the big revelation where it becomes clear you are indirectly or directly responsible for the death of his former wife.

All these characters I think add to the game, however in my personal opinion if the entire subplot was just flirt a few times and then get a sex scene the entire thing would be pretty meaningless. It's mostly why I think Carth/Alistair/Anders/Liara in Lair of the Shadow Broker *shudders*/Garrus works while some like Kaidan/Anomen/Sky and Zevran falls a bit short of the line in my opinion.

Modifié par Sasie, 27 août 2013 - 11:27 .

[Sylvianus]

MaraGriffyn wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

How much is "too much"? Who would determine the acceptable amount of romance? Are you concerned that the devs are planning to make romance a requirement in DAI? If so, do you have evidence of this?

This is exactly what I wondered when I read his post, but I didn't bother asking.
The same for people who require less romance content, but use the argument  at the same time that romance have no depth. Then why would you want less romance content ? I don't bother here too.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 27 août 2013 - 11:26 .

[werewoof]

Bionuts wrote...

Tinxa wrote...


Why is it that mere existence of something in the game that they don't personally want somehow offends some people? Because they don't enjoy it, apparently nobody should.


I never play dwarf characters but I don't go around making threads demanding that Bioware cut the race form the game and make more romances instead because "I certainly don't desire Bioware dwarf simulators".

I should not have to say it a million times. I enjoy the romances in Bioware games. I am in favor of quantity, even when I won't partake in certain features.

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

well...congrats? bioware has never gone overboard. there are a lot of fan forum topics about it but thats largely because they enjoy speculating about a part of the game they like, same as theres a lot of topics about the combat or armor customization. 

you basically made a whole thread to announce that you disagree with them. if youd just said that in another topic, sure, thats your opinion, but making a whole thread about it...

[franciscoamell]

Sylvianus wrote...

MaraGriffyn wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

How much is "too much"? Who would determine the acceptable amount of romance? Are you concerned that the devs are planning to make romance a requirement in DAI? If so, do you have evidence of this?

This is exactly what I wondered when I read his post, but I didn't bother asking.
The same for people who require less romance content, but use the argument  at the same time that romance have no depth. Then why would you want less romance content ? I don't bother here too.

I think the problem is when they add too much options like in ME3. Some LIs had so much content while some didn't... As a Jackmancer, I was pretty disapointed tbh. 

[AresKeith]

tiktac wrote...

well...congrats? bioware has never gone overboard. 

...ehh well that's not entirely true 

[PsychoBlonde]

Wompoo wrote...

There is an easy work around OP... plain yet simple and very effective, don't initiate that aspect of the game. Or are you just trying to apply your preference on everyone else. I've enjoyed them in most of BW games from BG2, Jade, Kotor and even in Hordes of the Underdark expansion for NWN >>>> onwards. If anything, I wish they had more depth.

I wish EVERYTHING in the game had more depth.  Even after they add more depth, I'll still want more depth.

Modifié par PsychoBlonde, 27 août 2013 - 11:33 .

[MaraGriffyn]

franciscoamell wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

MaraGriffyn wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

How much is "too much"? Who would determine the acceptable amount of romance? Are you concerned that the devs are planning to make romance a requirement in DAI? If so, do you have evidence of this?

This is exactly what I wondered when I read his post, but I didn't bother asking.
The same for people who require less romance content, but use the argument  at the same time that romance have no depth. Then why would you want less romance content ? I don't bother here too.

I think the problem is when they add too much options like in ME3. Some LIs had so much content while some didn't... As a Jackmancer, I was pretty disapointed tbh. 

I'd say that's an issue with under-developed storylines. I still feel bad for the (admittedly very few) people who romanced Jacob. But that doesn't mean other romances should've had less.

[Sasie]

franciscoamell wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

MaraGriffyn wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

How much is "too much"? Who would determine the acceptable amount of romance? Are you concerned that the devs are planning to make romance a requirement in DAI? If so, do you have evidence of this?

This is exactly what I wondered when I read his post, but I didn't bother asking.
The same for people who require less romance content, but use the argument  at the same time that romance have no depth. Then why would you want less romance content ? I don't bother here too.

I think the problem is when they add too much options like in ME3. Some LIs had so much content while some didn't... As a Jackmancer, I was pretty disapointed tbh. 

Problem with ME3 as I see it is that Bioware forgot it was suppose to be a romance and not a one-night stand. I suppose random sex sells and are nice to put into the game as well but the game spends far too much time worrying about what couple will share a shower and to little time on the amusing moments/flirting/discussion/drama that lead up to the romance in earlier games. Personally I would want someone to argue with like Carth again.

The only thing that comes remotely close with LI's in ME3 came with the Citadel DLC and that came out like 6 months after release or more?

Modifié par Sasie, 27 août 2013 - 11:34 .

[Sylvianus]

franciscoamell wrote...

Sylvianus wrote...

MaraGriffyn wrote...

Bionuts wrote...

However, I'm not in favor of Bioware going overboard and adding too much romance in the game.

How much is "too much"? Who would determine the acceptable amount of romance? Are you concerned that the devs are planning to make romance a requirement in DAI? If so, do you have evidence of this?

This is exactly what I wondered when I read his post, but I didn't bother asking.
The same for people who require less romance content, but use the argument  at the same time that romance have no depth. Then why would you want less romance content ? I don't bother here too.

I think the problem is when they add too much options like in ME3. Some LIs had so much content while some didn't... As a Jackmancer, I was pretty disapointed tbh. 

Yeah, they messed up. But ironically because of that, the romance content in M3 is the slightest one,  you have less romance content than in the previous games, with its cinematics and so few dialogue. Very shallow.

Why they needed to add Diana Allers for example ? lol.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 27 août 2013 - 11:36 .

[ziloe]

Zack_Nero wrote...

I think those elements just add to making a good story, but yea I see your point.

Hugging your companion doesn't add to the story.

[MaraGriffyn]

ziloe wrote...

Zack_Nero wrote...

I think those elements just add to making a good story, but yea I see your point.

Hugging your companion doesn't add to the story.

Being able to develop relationships with companion characters is a huge draw for some people, an important aspect of the story and the emotional connection we have to it. The ability to hug them can be part of that. 

It certainly doesn't detract from the story.