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#26
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I think the spawn nuking one wave 11 is completely pointless but I don't care. Lots of people are doing this now, I do have a slightly lower opinion of them as players though because they are focusing on the wrong things.

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ClydeInTheShell

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I save all mine for wave 11.

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Wizard of Ox

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IamZAE wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

I don't care. You wanna top the scoreboard no matter what, good for you. I'd just leave the lobby.


why would you leave the lobby if someone "tries" to topscoreboard? younrather they suck and bottom board.


Why would I compete with some random over score in a coop game, especially if it relies on spawn nuking and not skills? I don't mind being outscored, if that's you're implying. As long as they don't resort to tricks for doing so, which I found pretty stupid but to each is own I guess. 

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FateNeverEnds

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Typical spectre behavior.

Nothing to see here.

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DHKany wrote...

not much you can do when three dragoons instantly spawn behind you and proceed to staggerlock you to death before you can do anything.


dragoons will do that regardless. you can be fighting a unit and then they come outta nowhere. something deal with, not hard really. thats how i feel about geth primes... im gonna check behind me if i see primes die in a kill feed. no excuses is my motto.

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I did it once and became infamous for it. Now I do it to just live up to my name. So I approve.

Modifié par FasterThanFTL, 27 août 2013 - 09:31 .


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FasterThanFTL wrote...

I did it once and became infamous for it. Now I do it to just live up to my name. So I approve.


LOL

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IamZAE

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KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

I don't care. You wanna top the scoreboard no matter what, good for you. I'd just leave the lobby.


why would you leave the lobby if someone "tries" to topscoreboard? younrather they suck and bottom board.


Why would I compete with some random over score in a coop game, especially if it relies on spawn nuking and not skills? I don't mind being outscored, if that's you're implying. As long as they don't resort to tricks for doing so, which I found pretty stupid but to each is own I guess. 


who says you have to compete? just play for mission success. why save missiles at all? would you rather play with poor pugs who dont even now how to missile?

i homestly feel that anyone who gets bent outta shape because of wave 11 missiles, have the biggest epeen.

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FateNeverEnds wrote...

Typical spectre behavior.

Nothing to see here.


you havent played with enough spectres to even know, and your not spectre worthy anyways.

now get on topic

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It seems like spawn nuking on wave 11 is very much frowned upon here. In most games, the way I play is exactly like you mentioned in your opening post. Using missiles appropriately to help with objectives. If someone should happen to have a couple of remaining nukes on wave 11, I'd actually be a little disappointed if you didn't use them. So, absolutely nothing wrong with that. The real problem is when people refuse to use any missiles or help out with the game. Another problem is someone who save all their missiles for wave 11 and starts missiling stuff on wave 11. I've seen that quite a lot, I'm having to clutch waves and use up all my equipment struggling to clear waves and do objectives, only to discover that my teammates have been saving up their missiles all along.

Under the circumstances you mentioned, anyone who has an issue with spawn nuking on wave 11 is a cry baby and an idiot. It's quite clear cut. There's no way any reasonable person in their right mind would have an issue with that. And yet, BSN continues to cry and moan about the use of cobra missiles.

Modifié par XFG-65, 27 août 2013 - 09:38 .


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So, what If I have a problem with spawn nuking in general, that counts wave 11 missiles as well.

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IamZAE wrote...

DHKany wrote...

not much you can do when three dragoons instantly spawn behind you and proceed to staggerlock you to death before you can do anything.


dragoons will do that regardless. you can be fighting a unit and then they come outta nowhere. something deal with, not hard really. thats how i feel about geth primes... im gonna check behind me if i see primes die in a kill feed. no excuses is my motto.


guess we agree to disagree. 

Either way, if you used most of your missiles with some sense I don't care if you use the last one for wave 11

Modifié par DHKany, 27 août 2013 - 09:37 .


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Wave 11 spawn nuking doesn't exist. Those spawns were coming right for you. It was necessary to ensure extraction.

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IamZAE

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Zyzimorph wrote...

So, what If I have a problem with spawn nuking in general, that counts wave 11 missiles as well.



Why?

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XFG-65 wrote...

Under the circumstances you mentioned, anyone who has an issue with spawn nuking on wave 11 is a cry baby and an idiot.


thats an awfully bold claim to make, I don't like wave 11 missiles because in my eyes it has always been blatant scorewhoring, and completely pointless, at least if its the first spawns.

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The wave 11 missiles would be the only small question and only if it was in a panic attempt to top the scoreboard. Considering most of the time it goes like this:
Wave 1 to Wave 11 no missiles used at all
or
Waves 1 to Wave 11 a couple of missiles used on spawns but never used on anything else no matter how dire...

Your use of missiles was fine.

Oh and one more small beef with spawn nuking on wave 11, you best be sure your team is all in a good place when you do this so you do not screw over a team mate who suddenly gets a very bad spawn on extraction when you are on the other side of the map.

Modifié par Beerfish, 27 août 2013 - 09:41 .


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Wizard of Ox

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IamZAE wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

KroGan_eRRanT wrote...

I don't care. You wanna top the scoreboard no matter what, good for you. I'd just leave the lobby.


why would you leave the lobby if someone "tries" to topscoreboard? younrather they suck and bottom board.


Why would I compete with some random over score in a coop game, especially if it relies on spawn nuking and not skills? I don't mind being outscored, if that's you're implying. As long as they don't resort to tricks for doing so, which I found pretty stupid but to each is own I guess. 


who says you have to compete? just play for mission success. why save missiles at all? would you rather play with poor pugs who dont even now how to missile?

i homestly feel that anyone who gets bent outta shape because of wave 11 missiles, have the biggest epeen.


So if I don't care enough about topscoring to nuke wave 11, I have a bigger e-peen than those who do? At least you make sense. 

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Missiles are for scrubs who can't aim.

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Zyzimorph wrote...

So, what If I have a problem with spawn nuking in general, that counts wave 11 missiles as well.


That's understandable. But, would you have a problem with someone who uses their missiles well (targets, clearing the path for escorts, clearing hack zones, saving teammates from insta kills)?

I've been in a few games where missiles were banned, and that was okay. I would say that if anyone has a problem with the use of missiles, you should play with people you know and make it clear that you don't want to see any missiles fired. But to me, that's completely over the top. If you're playing with randoms, you're opening yourself up to the unknown, be prepared to put up with pugs saving all their missiles for wave 11 and nuking everything.

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

I did it once and became infamous for it. Now I do it to just live up to my name. So I approve.


you need to learn how to get to wave 11 on platinum duo first.

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IamZAE wrote...

Zyzimorph wrote...

So, what If I have a problem with spawn nuking in general, that counts wave 11 missiles as well.



Why?


You know how I feel about missiles :P

the first spawn of wave 11 is completely pointless IMO and to me it's the same as any other spawn nuke which I frown upon.  That's just me though

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I wouldn't care, but if said player started acting like they were amazing because of their score I would laugh at them for being an idiot.

Modifié par Cyonan, 27 août 2013 - 09:42 .


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The only reason I might object is if you nuke non-problem enemies who later spawn elsewhere to be problem enemies. For example, if a large spawn is off in some relative backwater corner of the map, there's ood thirt seconds of breathing room before they need to be dealt with. Rocketing them for rocketing's sake just makes things more hectic.

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Annomander wrote...

Missiles are for scrubs who can't aim.

Aim is for scrubs who can't missile.

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Using missiles on wave 11 is entirely pointless unless you're running for the LZ and need to clear the way.

Or if you want the experience.

But if you're a level 20 TGI with the Harrier and nuke every spawn you come across on wave 11, I'm going to think you're pathetic.