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Would anyone want choices that don't feed the player's ego in DA:I?

Débuté par cjones91 , août 27 2013 11:18

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:06

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David7204 wrote...

I'm not speaking for games or series. Merely the themes portrayed within them. Dragon Age could be great. It could be crap. Haven't played it, so can't say either way.


...than why are you here? In a discussion on the third game in the dragon age series?

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:07

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David7204 wrote...

I'm not speaking for games or series. Merely the themes portrayed within them. Dragon Age could be great. It could be crap. Haven't played it, so can't say either way.


You can't speak for "themes" unless you played the games

DA2 has an Elixer of Heroism

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:07

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'll probably buy and play at least DA:O sometime before Inquisition is released.


Make sure to pick only the heroic options!:wub:

But what about Behlen/Haro/-

Oh yeah

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:08

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DA:O is such a long game though. It's easy to get lost. Tbh i haven't finished it past the elven/werewolf mission.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:08

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EntropicAngel wrote...

I agree with the developers, and side with them, a lot. That has nothing to do with the points you're trying to make (things like, a hero should never die, for proper heroism men need to have muscular bodies and women need to have full breasts).

Don't paint this as you and Bioware against the world because that is not true at all.


First of all, I've never said anything of the sort. Saying that player characters (not just 'good' ones) shouldn't die no matter what in BioWare games which are filled with promises of choices that matter and very heavy investment in the player character is an incredibly different thing from 'Heroes should never die.'

And although I'd be hesitent to phrase it as 'need,' I certainly believe that beauty is a good and desireable thing. And thus characters are better for it. In fiction and in real life. It sure as hell shouldn't be a mark of shame as a great many people on the BSN love to imply.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:10

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Calling Davey's first character now.

Male Human noble, romances Leliana, Elves, Mages, Harrowmont, and then a massive b*tch fest at the ending.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:10

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As for the topic--YES.

Please, less wild choices like "decide who is the king of a country" and more along the line of choices within the linear story. So basically the same thing happens, but how we approach it, collateral damage, etc., changes.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:10

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David7204 wrote...

I'll probably buy and play at least DA:O sometime before Inquisition is released.


Don't you think you should have a grasp on the series' tone and objectives before discussing the path the next game should take? 

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:12

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David7204 wrote...
'Heroes should never die.'

Bah that only applies to Spartans

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:12

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dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

I'll probably buy and play at least DA:O sometime before Inquisition is released.


Don't you think you should have a grasp on the series' tone and objectives before discussing the path the next game should take? 


My guess is he skimmed the wiki.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:13

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No. I want the option to kill everyone who pisses my PC off. ...Including companions. Basically, a "[Attack] What the **** did you just say?" option.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:13

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Calling Davey's first character now.

Male Human noble, romances Leliana, Elves, Mages, Harrowmont, and then a massive b*tch fest at the ending.

We will now take bets

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:15

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Yeah this guy's got eggos.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:16

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David7204 wrote...

First of all, I've never said anything of the sort. Saying that player characters (not just 'good' ones) shouldn't die no matter what in BioWare games which are filled with promises of choices that matter and very heavy investment in the player character is an incredibly different thing from 'Heroes should never die.'

And although I'd be hesitent to phrase it as 'need,' I certainly believe that beauty is a good and desireable thing. And thus characters are better for it. In fiction and in real life. It sure as hell shouldn't be a mark of shame as a great many people on the BSN love to imply.


Fair enough. Heroes shouldn't die is still a poor statement in my opinion.

And no one's saying it is a mark of shame. But painting it as necessary, as you do, is also a bad move--and one that has nothing to do with defending Bioware and the developers.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:17

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David7204 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

I agree with the developers, and side with them, a lot. That has nothing to do with the points you're trying to make (things like, a hero should never die, for proper heroism men need to have muscular bodies and women need to have full breasts).

Don't paint this as you and Bioware against the world because that is not true at all.


First of all, I've never said anything of the sort. Saying that player characters (not just 'good' ones) shouldn't die no matter what in BioWare games which are filled with promises of choices that matter and very heavy investment in the player character is an incredibly different thing from 'Heroes should never die.'


You big liar.

David7204 wrote...

I'd like my fiction to be filled with incredibly attractive characters, please. That means flawless skin, shiny hair, gorgeous eyes, slender waists, and yeah, full breasts wouldn't hurt either. Nice deep voices for the guys and plenty of muscle.


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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:21

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EntropicAngel wrote...


Fair enough. Heroes shouldn't die is still a poor statement in my opinion.

And no one's saying it is a mark of shame. But painting it as necessary, as you do, is also a bad move--and one that has nothing to do with defending Bioware and the developers.

Heroes shouldn't always die in a very specific set of circumstances which only a tiny fraction of stories fulfill.

Why is it a bad move? It's not necessary for every single character. Krogan are ugly. Javik is ugly. Just in general.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:22

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*Laughs his pointy eared ass off*

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:22

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David7204 wrote...

\\ Javik is ugly. Just in general.


You shut your ***** mouth Davey Javik is sexy!

Hmmm Javik.:wub::wub:

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:24

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Javik is ugly. Just in general.


You shut your ***** mouth Davey Javik is sexy!

Hmmm Javik.:wub::wub:

Spam Liara/Javik fanart?

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:25

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Steelcan wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Javik is ugly. Just in general.


You shut your ***** mouth Davey Javik is sexy!

Hmmm Javik.:wub::wub:

Spam Liara/Javik fanart?


It's the only option.

In fealty to the god-emperor our undying...

#171
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:26

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I like marv from sin city over prince charming from every other story book.

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:26

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In DAO, the warden PC was outcasted from fereldan by Loghain, treated like an errand boy by almost everyone and Mage/elven/dwarven PC were discriminated many times in the game. So when was our ego fed in the DA series again?

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:26

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Javik is ugly. Just in general.


You shut your ***** mouth Davey Javik is sexy!

Hmmm Javik.:wub::wub:

Spam Liara/Javik fanart?


It's the only option.

In fealty to the god-emperor our undying...




Wait what?


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Modifié par Steelcan, 28 août 2013 - 03:29 .

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:27

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Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

*Laughs his pointy eared ass off*


(passes popcorn)

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Posté 28 août 2013 - 03:30

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dreamgazer wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

*Laughs his pointy eared ass off*


(passes popcorn)

(hands out drinks)
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