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[JamesFaith]

iakus wrote...

JamesFaith wrote...

So just your speculation.

Until you show me some thread or poll that breathing scene itself had NO emotional impact you are just pulling arguments from your ass again.

Oh it had an emotional impact.

A negative one.

I'm speculating as much as you are, btw.

Actually I didn't speculate.

I just asked you three questions. Then I made three notions about my personal experience from BSN without any speculative conclusions. And then I said that without proof is your claim just fabricated speculation.

Your childish defence "You did it too!" don't work here.

[Renmiri1]

Mcfly616 wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Project Lazarus from the Bible? Man, the third day resurrection must've been expensive. Wait....does that mean the creator is Miranda? I'm willing to become religious for that.

You're aware we're talking about symbolism.....right?

Lazarus is from the Bible. He is the only person (besides Jesus) that is resurrected, in the entire Bible. ME2 has Shepard being resurrected by "Project Lazarus".

Keep dancing Squidward, your public is clapping... 

On your dreams at least 

[GimmeDaGun]

Eterna5 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I'm with iakus. I prefer being able to define Shepard as opposed to having him be pre-defined and 'well-written'. I prefer blank-slate characters in video games, and being able to make them what I want them to be. 

Different preferences and tastes. It's not a contest about who's right or who's wrong. I never enjoyed blank-slate characters, but it does not mean I can't enjoy a game which has a blank-slate character. Best and most obvious example for this is ME.

The best example to what I prefer is The Witcher games: Absolutely killer lore and setting. A great and pre-defined character with charisma, soul etc., yet you can still role play the game. 

The thing about a pre defined character is that there is the chance you'll end up hating that character and thus the game.

I hate Geralt, so much so that I could only get through a few hours of the game before never touching it again. The next Withcer game could be the greatest RPG game ever and I still wouldn't touch it, simply because the portagonist does not appeal to me.  

Funny. Geralt is one of my biggest favorites when it comes to gaming protagonists. I also love the books (the ones that were released in English and Hungarian at least) and his portrayal in them. I can also relate to him, since there are few things which are common in me and the Geralt. Obviously not his fighting skills and charming looks.  

Different tastes it seems. Who is your favorite gaming character? What makes him or her your favorite?

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 01 septembre 2013 - 11:26 .

[Tommy6860]

Jamamba wrote...

After about a year we got the extended cut DLC which added just about nothing, and with ME4 being announced, I ask myself what's the point getting it, if its set in the past I still know the crappy outcome of what will happen, even though it may be a new storyline, people talk about a good ending to ME but is any ending really good? the Normandy is still stuck on some planet with no other intelligent life so what can they do? the Geth still die and EDI if I choose the destroy ending which is probably the best bad ending the game has to offer, Its kind of funny the Mass relays are destroyed as well so contact is lost with all the other species so when you think about it Bioware just destroyed there own game, so if Mass Effect 4 is in the future, what's it going to be called? "Mass Effect 4, There aren't anymore aliens because we F£$&!K the whole series up but hey we still have laser riffles" who was in charge of ME3 and what made him decide "Ok I'm gonna kill everything the player has worked for, F3&K them coz I just want money money money" and who else said "Yeah that's cool" I don't know about you but to me the ending is still unfinished, there could have been so much more I wanted an actual ending (good ending) and a 5 minute clip of some old guy talking about how war has changed isn't enough, people should really think and ask Bioware why they did this and make them give us a proper ending, I do not want mass effect games set in the past, I want to play in the future and see how things have changed after the reaper attack so I can actually see what all that work achieved, Most of us knew that Shepard was probably going to die but we didn't see Bioware killing the ME universe, Who else thinks we need a real ending?      

Oh wow!

[Nashtalia]

ah yes, it's 2013....and the "ending" is still being mentioned [good/bad/neutral].

this "talk" will never end

Modifié par Nashtalia, 01 septembre 2013 - 12:27 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I'm with iakus. I prefer being able to define Shepard as opposed to having him be pre-defined and 'well-written'. I prefer blank-slate characters in video games, and being able to make them what I want them to be. 

Different preferences and tastes. It's not a contest about who's right or who's wrong. I never enjoyed blank-slate characters, but it does not mean I can't enjoy a game which has a blank-slate character. Best and most obvious example for this is ME.

The best example to what I prefer is The Witcher games: Absolutely killer lore and setting. A great and pre-defined character with charisma, soul etc., yet you can still role play the game. 

The thing about a pre defined character is that there is the chance you'll end up hating that character and thus the game.

I hate Geralt, so much so that I could only get through a few hours of the game before never touching it again. The next Withcer game could be the greatest RPG game ever and I still wouldn't touch it, simply because the portagonist does not appeal to me.  

Funny. Geralt is one of my biggest favorites when it comes to gaming protagonists. I also love the books (the ones that were released in English and Hungarian at least) and his portrayal in them. I can also relate to him, since there are few things which are common in me and the Geralt. Obviously not his fighting skills and charming looks.  

Different tastes it seems. Who is your favorite gaming character? What makes him or her your favorite?

Commander Shepard, Revan, The Grey Warden, Meetra Surik (The Jedi Exile), characters that I get to define myself. These are the examples.

Granted Revan had a lot of predefinition himself with his old identity, but oddly enough, his prior philosophy and identity is how I like my protagonists. Charismatic, enigmatic, cunning, genius, enigmatic, ruthless, and sardonic. They dispose of traditional ideas of morality and ethics and norms of conduct to do what they need to do. Magnificent bastards and anti-heroes. People who are willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish their goals, even if that includes killing innocent civilians. Survivalists, people that just won't die.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 01 septembre 2013 - 02:13 .

[MassivelyEffective0730]

DuckBisque wrote...

I'm gobsmacked that people are still talking about the endings. Or even the game.

Who plays it anymore? Anyone? No?

Okay then.

I talk about both.

[ioannisdenton]

Just played a couple of hours of assassins creed 3. I swear to god i want to smash my ps3, this game is so boring, simplistic, STUPID and bad. Only the production values (graphcis and music) are worth it.
People here are still whinning about the ending; they better play Ac3 and then they may speak bad for Me3. Me3 is the best game ever compared to any of Ac games. Wanna talk about the ending? Just watch Ac3 ending....
Oh god gaming community is going to ^$$^. Overhyping games like Cods and Ac games....

[MassivelyEffective0730]

ioannisdenton wrote...

Just played a couple of hours of assassins creed 3. I swear to god i want to smash my ps3, this game is so boring, simplistic, STUPID and bad. Only the production values (graphcis and music) are worth it.
People here are still whinning about the ending; they better play Ac3 and then they may speak bad for Me3. Me3 is the best game ever compared to any of Ac games. Wanna talk about the ending? Just watch Ac3 ending....
Oh god gaming community is going to ^$$^. Overhyping games like Cods and Ac games....

Been there, done that.

Nope, ME3's ending was still worse.

That said, you're doing nothing but getting upset that anyone has a different perspective at all. At least in Assassin's Creed, I didn't have to suffer through a character that I more or less made being hardlined and railroaded into a certain posture and ideology like I did in ME3.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 01 septembre 2013 - 03:31 .

[GimmeDaGun]

ioannisdenton wrote...

Just played a couple of hours of assassins creed 3. I swear to god i want to smash my ps3, this game is so boring, simplistic, STUPID and bad. Only the production values (graphcis and music) are worth it.
People here are still whinning about the ending; they better play Ac3 and then they may speak bad for Me3. Me3 is the best game ever compared to any of Ac games. Wanna talk about the ending? Just watch Ac3 ending....
Oh god gaming community is going to ^$$^. Overhyping games like Cods and Ac games....

I don't give a damn about the gaming community and whether it is going even more commercial or not. I love quality games with interesting stories and characters. AC3 has a good story and interesting characters. I like that game for that reason and the mood of course. 

Maybe it's not for you, but it's far from being bad. 

[AlanC9]

DuckBisque wrote...

Who plays it anymore? Anyone? No?
.

I do, actually. Or will as soon as I finish my current ME2 run.

[GimmeDaGun]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I'm with iakus. I prefer being able to define Shepard as opposed to having him be pre-defined and 'well-written'. I prefer blank-slate characters in video games, and being able to make them what I want them to be. 

Different preferences and tastes. It's not a contest about who's right or who's wrong. I never enjoyed blank-slate characters, but it does not mean I can't enjoy a game which has a blank-slate character. Best and most obvious example for this is ME.

The best example to what I prefer is The Witcher games: Absolutely killer lore and setting. A great and pre-defined character with charisma, soul etc., yet you can still role play the game. 

The thing about a pre defined character is that there is the chance you'll end up hating that character and thus the game.

I hate Geralt, so much so that I could only get through a few hours of the game before never touching it again. The next Withcer game could be the greatest RPG game ever and I still wouldn't touch it, simply because the portagonist does not appeal to me.  

Funny. Geralt is one of my biggest favorites when it comes to gaming protagonists. I also love the books (the ones that were released in English and Hungarian at least) and his portrayal in them. I can also relate to him, since there are few things which are common in me and the Geralt. Obviously not his fighting skills and charming looks.  

Different tastes it seems. Who is your favorite gaming character? What makes him or her your favorite?

Commander Shepard, Revan, The Grey Warden, Meetra Surik (The Jedi Exile), characters that I get to define myself. These are the examples.

Granted Revan had a lot of predefinition himself with his old identity, but oddly enough, his prior philosophy and identity is how I like my protagonists. Charismatic, enigmatic, cunning, genius, enigmatic, ruthless, and sardonic. They dispose of traditional ideas of morality and ethics and norms of conduct to do what they need to do. Magnificent bastards and anti-heroes. People who are willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish their goals, even if that includes killing innocent civilians. Survivalists, people that just won't die.

So you like to define your characters yourself as much as you can in games. Is there any pre-defined and written character that you like or enjoy? Not necessarily from games. 

I'm not a big fan of blank or plain slate characters. I enjoy a story which I can experience from the perspective of an individual character with its own attributes, motivations, history and morality. 

My favorite protagonists from gaming: Geralt, Garrett (Thief), Connor, Cutter Slade (Outcast), Adam (DE-HR).

[Felya87]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

5 years I waited.... 5 years...... for a story to end with a gasp of air. WTF?

my same problem U_U

[Venom man4]

The ending is gonna be brought up for as long as ME is around looks like. ME4 can be amazing and the ME3 ending will get brought into topics that are strictly only about ME4.

[Br3admax]

I don't know, kind of like making my own ending up. As long as MEWhatever isn't a sequel, I'll be content.

[KaiserShep]

DuckBisque wrote...

I'm gobsmacked that people are still talking about the endings. Or even the game.

Who plays it anymore? Anyone? No?

Okay then.

I do. I've only been playing this trilogy since March or April, and still enjoy it immensely.

[crimzontearz]

Venom man4 wrote...

The ending is gonna be brought up for as long as ME is around looks like. ME4 can be amazing and the ME3 ending will get brought into topics that are strictly only about ME4.

why should it not tho?

[Iakus]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

So you like to define your characters yourself as much as you can in games. Is there any pre-defined and written character that you like or enjoy? Not necessarily from games. 

I'm not a big fan of blank or plain slate characters. I enjoy a story which I can experience from the perspective of an individual character with its own attributes, motivations, history and morality. 

My favorite protagonists from gaming: Geralt, Garrett (Thief), Connor, Cutter Slade (Outcast), Adam (DE-HR).

Novels,. movies tv shows, things where I am a passive observer are fine for enjoying someone else's vision of a character.  But if you ask me to participate in what happens, I want to be able to define who the character I'm controlling is.  

The thing about blank slate is that they don't have to stay blank slates.  You fill in the blanks, and draw the picture.  And a game which allows for agency and choice and consequences will allow for it and react accordingly.   You're given the backstory and the situation, and it let's you define what a person in that situation would become.

Of the choices you listed, Adam Jensen is the only one I really liked.  And even then you are very limited in how you can define him.  It was really more the game's atmpsphere and how situations encouraged you to thnk outside the box that made the game enjoyable.

Still doesn't hold a candle to The Nameless One (the grandaddy of blank slate characters).  Or Michael Thorton.  Or even Lee Everett (not exactly an rpg, but did an admirable job of letting you define the protagonist)

[MassivelyEffective0730]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

I'm with iakus. I prefer being able to define Shepard as opposed to having him be pre-defined and 'well-written'. I prefer blank-slate characters in video games, and being able to make them what I want them to be. 

Different preferences and tastes. It's not a contest about who's right or who's wrong. I never enjoyed blank-slate characters, but it does not mean I can't enjoy a game which has a blank-slate character. Best and most obvious example for this is ME.

The best example to what I prefer is The Witcher games: Absolutely killer lore and setting. A great and pre-defined character with charisma, soul etc., yet you can still role play the game. 

The thing about a pre defined character is that there is the chance you'll end up hating that character and thus the game.

I hate Geralt, so much so that I could only get through a few hours of the game before never touching it again. The next Withcer game could be the greatest RPG game ever and I still wouldn't touch it, simply because the portagonist does not appeal to me.  

Funny. Geralt is one of my biggest favorites when it comes to gaming protagonists. I also love the books (the ones that were released in English and Hungarian at least) and his portrayal in them. I can also relate to him, since there are few things which are common in me and the Geralt. Obviously not his fighting skills and charming looks.  

Different tastes it seems. Who is your favorite gaming character? What makes him or her your favorite?

Commander Shepard, Revan, The Grey Warden, Meetra Surik (The Jedi Exile), characters that I get to define myself. These are the examples.

Granted Revan had a lot of predefinition himself with his old identity, but oddly enough, his prior philosophy and identity is how I like my protagonists. Charismatic, enigmatic, cunning, genius, enigmatic, ruthless, and sardonic. They dispose of traditional ideas of morality and ethics and norms of conduct to do what they need to do. Magnificent bastards and anti-heroes. People who are willing to do whatever it takes to accomplish their goals, even if that includes killing innocent civilians. Survivalists, people that just won't die.

So you like to define your characters yourself as much as you can in games. Is there any pre-defined and written character that you like or enjoy? Not necessarily from games. 

I'm not a big fan of blank or plain slate characters. I enjoy a story which I can experience from the perspective of an individual character with its own attributes, motivations, history and morality. 

My favorite protagonists from gaming: Geralt, Garrett (Thief), Connor, Cutter Slade (Outcast), Adam (DE-HR).

Sure. Characters that meet my preferences. Star Wars has many; Grand Admiral Thrawn, Mara Jade, Luke as he starts to mature and become more philosophical (he's very good at being paragon without being utterly obnoxious and self-righteous), Revan, Kyle Katarn, Obi-Wan, etc. Even the good guys have logical reasons for what they do and experience and knowledge to know why their system will work. They don't just follow some moral code blindly because of tradition or whatever. They can understand and even execute actions in certain contexts. They're morally relative, even if they follow a certain perspective.

I dislike the characters that sort of blindly follow a traditional code of honor or ethics without actually understanding  or knowing the opposing views. Ashley Williams is, in my opinion, the biggest example of this. I can't stand the bitch. I hate self-righteousness without understanding. People who are morally objective, who think there is a universal 'good and evil'. I hate that. I reject that.

There are a lot of other characters I do and don't like. Far too many to name really.

[liggy002]

See my thread on the interesting ME4 info... everyone is already pegging me as a liar.

Two things:

1. The information did not originate from myself. I cannot reveal the source because then the source would lose their job and likely get sued.  So, calling me a liar, is inaccurate.  I already said that the info is from a trusted source and is subject to change.

2. Most of what this person or persons have told me comes to pass. What hasn't come to pass is the "subject to change" part I mentioned. Some story details are changed because of leaks. However, some story will remain because they are adamant to keep it despite leaks. Leaks are inevitable as we know.

Modifié par liggy002, 01 septembre 2013 - 10:15 .

[Br3admax]

Of course, liggy.You are the beacon that lights the darkness of our eternal ignorance. We never get anywhere without your guidance.

[liggy002]

Br3ad wrote...

Of course, liggy.You are the beacon that lights the darkness of our eternal ignorance. We never get anywhere without your guidance.

I know what I heard and I know the truth of it... believe it or don't believe it.  I don't really care.  Is it so hard to believe that a major Mass Effect villain would show up again?  Just think about that for a second.

Modifié par liggy002, 01 septembre 2013 - 10:16 .

[liggy002]

ioannisdenton wrote...

Just played a couple of hours of assassins creed 3. I swear to god i want to smash my ps3, this game is so boring, simplistic, STUPID and bad. Only the production values (graphcis and music) are worth it.
People here are still whinning about the ending; they better play Ac3 and then they may speak bad for Me3. Me3 is the best game ever compared to any of Ac games. Wanna talk about the ending? Just watch Ac3 ending....
Oh god gaming community is going to ^$$^. Overhyping games like Cods and Ac games....

At least COD sticks to its formula...even if it is getting old and tired.  As for AC3, I cannot comment even though I never got into that series.

[shepskisaac]

liggy002 wrote...

Is it so hard to believe that a major Mass Effect villain would show up again?  Just think about that for a second.

I just doubt they will want to have the Reapers involved in any significant degree again, after the first trilogy was all about them and their 'arc' got concluded. Heck, many people doubt even Leviathans will appear in major role in ME4 because it could be seen as "same thing just really with a new (organic) coat of paint".