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[Sir DeLoria]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Most here know that the Tali fanbase is "special." Fortunately they have pretty much all left the BSN so never again will we be graced with Tali sweat posts and other such outrages.

Tali and Garrus (or any alien) romances should never have been added.

If they must exist, I'd at least hope they wouldn't have been bangable. Ah well.

Collective guilt much? One or two Talimancers make a creepy post like that and the entire fanbase is now to blame?

Why was it a mistake to implement alien romances? You don't have to do them, but some others might enjoy them. The vast majority of ME players has romanced aliens.

[Iakus]

LineHolder wrote...

I'm definitely still disappointed. But now, it's more a wistful "what-could-have-been" feeling more than actual rage or whatever.

Or a bemused "how will they convince people to come back?" When it comes to the next game

[Jagri]

Necanor wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Most here know that the Tali fanbase is "special." Fortunately they have pretty much all left the BSN so never again will we be graced with Tali sweat posts and other such outrages.

Tali and Garrus (or any alien) romances should never have been added.

If they must exist, I'd at least hope they wouldn't have been bangable. Ah well.

Collective guilt much? One or two Talimancers make a creepy post like that and the entire fanbase is now to blame?

Why was it a mistake to implement alien romances? You don't have to do them, but some others might enjoy them. The vast majority of ME players has romanced aliens.

Wait, while one can admit Talimancers could be bad at times didn't the Miranda romancers have a entire forum section shut down with their nonsense?

[MegaSovereign]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

There is no middle ground here. Either you're a blind Ending lover or you're a realist that acknowledges that the ending was horrible and Bioware failed to live up to their name. That and acknowledging that Bioware's "PR" and mass bannings on the forum after ME3 didn't help their image at all.

This.

Then go on and hate each other like butthurt kindergarten brats, if that's what pleases you. 

At least I have standards you blind Ending lover.

[dreamgazer]

I am colorblind. Coffee black and egg white.

[Br3admax]

Jagri wrote...

Necanor wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Most here know that the Tali fanbase is "special." Fortunately they have pretty much all left the BSN so never again will we be graced with Tali sweat posts and other such outrages.

Tali and Garrus (or any alien) romances should never have been added.

If they must exist, I'd at least hope they wouldn't have been bangable. Ah well.

Collective guilt much? One or two Talimancers make a creepy post like that and the entire fanbase is now to blame?

Why was it a mistake to implement alien romances? You don't have to do them, but some others might enjoy them. The vast majority of ME players has romanced aliens.

Wait, while one can admit Talimancers could be bad at times didn't the Miranda romancers have a entire forum section shut down with their nonsense?

Shush, don't speak of the forbiddon times!

Anyway, I'm not really annoyed with the endings as I am with people who won't let them go. At least the endings could admit that ME3 needed to stop. 

[Thore2k10]

Yes, very annoyed! Well at least as long as i think about ME! I dont really want to play it anymore...

[OH-UP-THIS!]

In a word? Yes.

Sadly this whole fiasco is dwindling out of existence, as a normal human response known as 'complacency', and Bioware/EA know this all too well, unfortunately.

[YourFleshIsMine]

I heard so much bad stuff about the end that I didn't end up playing the game I bought...till now. I just finished it and I guess I have a completely different view of the ending.

Now, regardless of the ending you got (I had destruction and over 5k assets), so I did get that shot where you see a glimpse of Shepard waking up, I think destruction was the ending that fit me most.

It saddens me to have to leave Shepard behind, god knows BW gets bored with their own heroes a lot faster than the fans, but it was an ending that made sense to me as far as the story went. I don't really understand where these ideas came from that in the end you have no choice or that you end up working for the reapers blah blah...I totally didn't experience that at all.

I did find the dlc from ashes and particularly leviathan quite enlightening. Perhaps the ending is too complex but to me it made sense in the end.

[Andrew Lucas]

Im going replay ME3 you all can shot me,just wait while i get in cover.

[Wolfva2]

dreamgazer wrote...

I am colorblind. Coffee black and egg white.

HAH!  The yolk's on you then!  It's yellow.
<****** poor rimshot fading off into silence>

<blink><blink>  

Heyyyy, I'll be here all week folks!
<baddabing!>

[CmdrStJean]

I've given up on Mass Effect and so I don't really care much anymore. I sold my copies of all three games and moved on. Yes I'm sure Bioware will try to fire out something new in the coming years, but what difference does it make now. There's no reason to take anything they say or do regarding ME seriously (at least in my case) so it's of no consequence anymore. If there is a real lasting impact of the ending in my case it's been the creation of total indifference. Can't imagine a worse legacy for Bioware's work than that.

[GimmeDaGun]

MegaSovereign wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

There is no middle ground here. Either you're a blind Ending lover or you're a realist that acknowledges that the ending was horrible and Bioware failed to live up to their name. That and acknowledging that Bioware's "PR" and mass bannings on the forum after ME3 didn't help their image at all.

This.

Then go on and hate each other like butthurt kindergarten brats, if that's what pleases you. 

At least I have standards you blind Ending lover.

Good for you. At least I have some level of acknowledgment for those whose opinion is different than mine and try to understand them, and especially I don't try to judge them by their tastes, which this whole stupid argument is about.

Maybe you should try to be more patient and open up instead of behaving life some immature brat. Oh, and everybody has standards. It's not about that. Also I'm not a "blind" ending lover. I like the ending fo many reasons. You may disagree with or even hate those reasons, but at least I don't try to force my opinion on you whereas you - it seems - try to force yours on those whose opinion differs from yours, and call them stupid in the mean time. An absolutely intelligent approach, if you ask me. Shows real class. 

But have it your way, if this is what gives you joy in life, carry on with it. ...How can you treat such a ridiculously first world(est) problem so damn seriously?

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 03 septembre 2013 - 03:38 .

[GimmeDaGun]

YourFleshIsMine wrote...

I heard so much bad stuff about the end that I didn't end up playing the game I bought...till now. I just finished it and I guess I have a completely different view of the ending.

Now, regardless of the ending you got (I had destruction and over 5k assets), so I did get that shot where you see a glimpse of Shepard waking up, I think destruction was the ending that fit me most.

It saddens me to have to leave Shepard behind, god knows BW gets bored with their own heroes a lot faster than the fans, but it was an ending that made sense to me as far as the story went. I don't really understand where these ideas came from that in the end you have no choice or that you end up working for the reapers blah blah...I totally didn't experience that at all.

I did find the dlc from ashes and particularly leviathan quite enlightening. Perhaps the ending is too complex but to me it made sense in the end.

Glad you liked it. I had the same experience when I installed all the dlcs. Unfortunately the game without certian dlc-s did not work that well (for me at least). It was still great and worked just fine, but it felt lacking when it came to certain things, and the ending was underwhelmin productionwise. Now it is good, but many still hate it... some of them even hate those who dare to like it. Which is the silliest, infantile behaviour ever. I would not even call it hate, it's simple butthurt. But fotunately there are quite a lot of nice fellas among those who genuienly dislike or hate the ending. 


But I still find it ridiculous that after one and a half years we are still quarreling over this. 

[Eterna]

Elite Midget wrote...

There is no middle ground here. Either you're a blind Ending lover or you're a realist that acknowledges that the ending was horrible and Bioware failed to live up to their name. That and acknowledging that Bioware's "PR" and mass bannings on the forum after ME3 didn't help their image at all.

Is someone paying you to be this stupid? 

[YourFleshIsMine]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

YourFleshIsMine wrote...

I heard so much bad stuff about the end that I didn't end up playing the game I bought...till now. I just finished it and I guess I have a completely different view of the ending.

Now, regardless of the ending you got (I had destruction and over 5k assets), so I did get that shot where you see a glimpse of Shepard waking up, I think destruction was the ending that fit me most.

It saddens me to have to leave Shepard behind, god knows BW gets bored with their own heroes a lot faster than the fans, but it was an ending that made sense to me as far as the story went. I don't really understand where these ideas came from that in the end you have no choice or that you end up working for the reapers blah blah...I totally didn't experience that at all.

I did find the dlc from ashes and particularly leviathan quite enlightening. Perhaps the ending is too complex but to me it made sense in the end.

Glad you liked it. I had the same experience when I installed all the dlcs. Unfortunately the game without certian dlc-s did not work that well (for me at least). It was still great and worked just fine, but it felt lacking when it came to certain things, and the ending was underwhelmin productionwise. Now it is good, but many still hate it... some of them even hate those who dare to like it. Which is the silliest, infantile behaviour ever. I would not even call it hate, it's simple butthurt. But fotunately there are quite a lot of nice fellas among those who genuienly dislike or hate the ending. 


But I still find it ridiculous that after one and a half years we are still quarreling over this. 

Well, it certainly had it's impact. I think though that BW made a risky decision in the story writing here. I mean, I think I get what they were trying to say but for a game that millions buy I think it probably would've been wiser to make things a little clearer and easier to understand at the end.

What I find remarkable is indeed the discussions that are still going on but moreso the strange conclusions that people still hold on to. One example is this idea that Shepard was working for the Reapers. I don't understand that even now some people still think that, where to me it seems abundantly clear that that is actually not the case.

What I do find peculiar is that BW writers have a tendency to get fed up with their own heroes rather quickly. If you look at DA, I suppose we can feel blessed that Shepard made it through an entire trilogy. I sometimes wonder if it's a matter of ego or what....Maybe the original writers don't want to hand over their heroes to new writers or new writers don't want to be stuck with other writer's protagonists. Or is it still the same writer who feels he fell into the shadow of what he created? I dunno it just feels like BW can't wait to get rid of their own heroes, whereas the fans want it to go on forever.

To quote Babylon 5 (Lorien): Only those whose lives are brief can believe that love, is eternal. You should embrace that remarkable illusion. It may be the greatest gift your race has ever received.

Perhaps something for BW to think about before axing another character that's loved by so many eh?

[clarkusdarkus]

Im still at 1 playthrough, Which says everything you need to know about ME3 as a whole, Let alone the ending.......So in my mind i still have the god awfull * buy more dlc to further the legend * thing as my lasting memory of ME3.

Dark souls, Dragons dogma soon took the thought of ME3 away, People suggest the witcher series but if you like creating the hero rather than a play as geralt who looks awfull then id skip it. Also by the time the next ME is out, Cyberpunk 2077 will be in the news and that my friend has the potential to wipe the floor with the ME series and be the new goto space opera.

[Iakus]

clarkusdarkus wrote...

Im still at 1 playthrough, Which says everything you need to know about ME3 as a whole, Let alone the ending.......So in my mind i still have the god awfull * buy more dlc to further the legend * thing as my lasting memory of ME3.

Dark souls, Dragons dogma soon took the thought of ME3 away, People suggest the witcher series but if you like creating the hero rather than a play as geralt who looks awfull then id skip it. Also by the time the next ME is out, Cyberpunk 2077 will be in the news and that my friend has the potential to wipe the floor with the ME series and be the new goto space opera.

No to mention for us PC players there will be Project Eternity and Torment: Tides of Numenera.

[BikerDykeFromMars]

I recently got into a discussion about this in an IGN comment thread and this seems like the best place to put what I remember of my alternate version from around the time along with a few new additions. It's a long one but I'd like to hear what you think of it or tell me if I glossed over any particular points. In the interest of saving time here's a direct copy/paste of the original comment:

"Yeah I know how you feel, I had loads of alternative endings thought out but I've forgotten most of them now. Though I did think up one perfect one that I really wish I could remember.

In case it wasn't obvious, SPOILERS AHEAD

I'm not sure if this is what I had but it works anyway and leaves the already established canon intact. Basically around the time you find out that the Catalyst is the Citadel, Liara or someone chimes in saying that there's an alternative component: Harbinger. Right then you make a choice: either go down to Earth with Hammer and try to take the Citadel and then everything plays out the way it did originally, or launch a mission to board and take control of Harbinger and use him to complete the Crucible and send a type of virus through all the Reapers, wiping them out but leaving all synthetics not attached to the Reaper network alone.

I haven't really thought about how the actual mission would play out but a good share of it would take place aboard Harbinger. Anderson would definitely be involved and the Illusive Man would be waiting at the bridge as the final boss. War assets would play a bigger role here, affecting the difficulty of the mission and affecting certain outcomes like whether Anderson lives or dies and what happens to other side characters and etc that are taking part in the battle outside. There'd be a good deal of dialogue involving the Illusive Man, Anderson, Harbinger and whatever squad members you bring along, something similar to the uncut version of Shepard and Anderson's chat on the Citadel. In my version though I'd have the Illusive Man would him and then other factors would affect whether or not he manages to survive it.

After all that I'd have a decent fleshed out epilogue, something similar to Dragon Age: Origins where you could walk around the Normandy and have one last talk with all the surviving squad members, crew, Anderson, Hackett, and all other notable side characters. Obviously all this would be preceded by an incredibly uplifting cut scene showing victory scenes across the galaxy. Then I'd end it all with a fairly detailed epilogue once again like we saw in DA:O but narrated and maybe with some cut scenes too. It'd generally highlight the outcomes of your decisions, what the characters went on to do and etc but I'd leave it a little vague so there's clear direction but room for speculation. Then the Citadel dlc could fit nicely on the other side of the credits.

You could even have some kind of system like we saw in ME2 on the collector base where you had to choose the right squad mates to do particular tasks otherwise people could die. You could do it both on the Harbinger mission with your squad and on a grander scale with your fleets and other war assets.

Sorry about how long that is, kinda got carried away lol"

[Mad-Hamlet]

I use MEHEM.

That is all.

[KotorEffect3]

MegaSovereign wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

There is no middle ground here. Either you're a blind Ending lover or you're a realist that acknowledges that the ending was horrible and Bioware failed to live up to their name. That and acknowledging that Bioware's "PR" and mass bannings on the forum after ME3 didn't help their image at all.

This.

Then go on and hate each other like butthurt kindergarten brats, if that's what pleases you. 

At least I have standards you blind Ending lover.

I love it when whiney haters claim they have "standards" in a failed attempt to elevate themselves above those that like something they don't.

[Merchant2006]

It's not that I'm annoyed at BioWare after the Dragon Age II, SWTOR and Mass Effect debacle and how they completely screwed us over and blame the reaction on the fanbase, it's just I don't give a **** about them anymore.

I guess that's better than being a hateful zealot. First came annoyance, then hate, then vitriol and... now there's just... nothing. I'm done with them and I'm very happy with it.

[KotorEffect3]

Merchant2006 wrote...

It's not that I'm annoyed at BioWare after the Dragon Age II, SWTOR and Mass Effect debacle and how they completely screwed us over and blame the reaction on the fanbase, it's just I don't give a **** about them anymore.

I guess that's better than being a hateful zealot. First came annoyance, then hate, then vitriol and... now there's just... nothing. I'm done with them and I'm very happy with it.

Says the dude with 5 bioware games under his avatar while still posting on their forums. lol  I have heard this song and dance before.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

Nope. Played my final playthrough before I leave the country for a year, through all the DLC's etc, picked Destruction, and was completely happy with it. This is coming from someone who initially hated them.