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Is it just me or are you still annoyed with the ME3 endings?


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The destroy ending in the extended edition was fine for me. In general the game could have been much more in terms of rewarding the player for his choices though. Not just the ending.

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It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

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loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...

It's not that I'm annoyed at BioWare after the Dragon Age II, SWTOR and Mass Effect debacle and how they completely screwed us over and blame the reaction on the fanbase, it's just I don't give a **** about them anymore.

I guess that's better than being a hateful zealot. First came annoyance, then hate, then vitriol and... now there's just... nothing. I'm done with them and I'm very happy with it.


Says the dude with 5 bioware games under his avatar while still posting on their forums. lol  I have heard this song and dance before.


This.  @Merchant2006, you're done with them, yet you're still posting on their forums a year and a half later... separation anxiety?  Or crave attention much?

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I'm not sure I think the endings were bad in ME3, but I definitely think the ME1 and ME2 endings were more epic and enjoyable.

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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...

It's not that I'm annoyed at BioWare after the Dragon Age II, SWTOR and Mass Effect debacle and how they completely screwed us over and blame the reaction on the fanbase, it's just I don't give a **** about them anymore.

I guess that's better than being a hateful zealot. First came annoyance, then hate, then vitriol and... now there's just... nothing. I'm done with them and I'm very happy with it.


Says the dude with 5 bioware games under his avatar while still posting on their forums. lol  I have heard this song and dance before.


This.  @Merchant2006, you're done with them, yet you're still posting on their forums a year and a half later... separation anxiety?  Or crave attention much?


BSN is a huge social site. Video games aren't the only reason people come here to spend their time.

The main reason I come back sometimes is because BSN has many great, intelligent and funny users. I've had lots of enjoyable times around here. However, and sadly, a lot of folks I cared for have either left this site or they hardly bother posting. So now I'm wondering what else BSN has to offer to keep me interested. Hmm...

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SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

This.  @Merchant2006, you're done with them, yet you're still posting on their forums a year and a half later... separation anxiety?  Or crave attention much?


You're a digusting individual.

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crimzontearz wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?


Don't you get it?  There's an expiration date on disappointment.

By now we're supposed to have forgotten all about the endings and be eagerly awaiting the next Mass Effect game.

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I1 Trust wrote...

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Merchant2006 wrote...

It's not that I'm annoyed at BioWare after the Dragon Age II, SWTOR and Mass Effect debacle and how they completely screwed us over and blame the reaction on the fanbase, it's just I don't give a **** about them anymore.

I guess that's better than being a hateful zealot. First came annoyance, then hate, then vitriol and... now there's just... nothing. I'm done with them and I'm very happy with it.


Says the dude with 5 bioware games under his avatar while still posting on their forums. lol  I have heard this song and dance before.


This.  @Merchant2006, you're done with them, yet you're still posting on their forums a year and a half later... separation anxiety?  Or crave attention much?


BSN is a huge social site. Video games aren't the only reason people come here to spend their time.

The main reason I come back sometimes is because BSN has many great, intelligent and funny users. I've had lots of enjoyable times around here. However, and sadly, a lot of folks I cared for have either left this site or they hardly bother posting. So now I'm wondering what else BSN has to offer to keep me interested. Hmm...


BSN is a social site but this subforum is for video games, specifically for Mass Effect 3. 

You'll find some of BSN's best users in the off-topic section btw. Some of them post there exclusively. Just a suggestion if you're feeling bored. You're not obligated to isolate yourself to any one section.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 04 septembre 2013 - 04:05 .


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iakus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?


Don't you get it?  There's an expiration date on disappointment.

By now we're supposed to have forgotten all about the endings and be eagerly awaiting the next Mass Effect game.


No.  By now you're supposed to have MOVED ON WITH YOUR LIVES while deciding that Bioware DOES NOT make games that you like, and instead concentrate your time buying games you DO like.  At least, that's the adult way of handlign the issue.  Or, you can keep throwing temper tantrums and demanding that they change their entire style to just make games that YOU like, the hell with the people who already like what they're producing.

Only a complete and ineffable idiot would 'eagerly' await a new game from a company they despise which produces games they abhor.  Which is why I fully expect to see you kvetching about how much you hate ME4 when it comes out :D.

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I can feel the anticipation to spew hatred already.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 04 septembre 2013 - 05:19 .


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crimzontearz wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?


Hehehe.  Thanks man, I needed the laugh.  I mean, the complete and utter ludicrousness of someone who has been complaining about a freaking GAME for a year and a half accusing someone else of being extreme for insinuating that the game just isn't worth  the angst some of ya'll put into it.  

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Wolfva2 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?


Hehehe.  Thanks man, I needed the laugh.  I mean, the complete and utter ludicrousness of someone who has been complaining about a freaking GAME for a year and a half accusing someone else of being extreme for insinuating that the game just isn't worth  the angst some of ya'll put into it.  


uh...no...I was referring to the subject of the analogy not its concept

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Angry is quite a strong word. Disappointed. But I found that playing other cool games and not visiting this forum (which I still do now and then, can't deny that) help in not caring about it.
Have you played the Portal series yet? Or Deus Ex: Human Revolution (I wasn't exactly thrilled with its ending either but thought the ending dealt with the themes that the whole game had been about, so it was at least fitting). Or To the Moon.
Currently I'm playing the Half-Life series which is also well-designed, I'd say it's a brainy FPS.
I can understand that you're angry, but they won't change it anymore. So be an egoist - do something that is more fun to you than thinking of ME 3 ... play another game!

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iakus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?


Don't you get it?  There's an expiration date on disappointment.

By now we're supposed to have forgotten all about the endings and be eagerly awaiting the next Mass Effect game.


LOL, My brain must be faulty, the auto-delete on my disappointment has failed to activate

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I like the idea of the Catalyst but it was not well execute,when i first saw the AI i was like WTF?,and we cannot even argue with him (before EC),If Leviathan was included in the game and the ending was something like the EC in the release there will be more aceptance of the ending.

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AlanC9 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

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crimzontearz wrote...
do I HAVE to quote Jessica?

Actually yeah, I wonder which quote you're thinking about


the one in which she said (implied rather, in a rather sarcastic tone) according to her numbers bioware will not publish regarding the feedback more people wanted DLC other than a reunion scene/expanded ending


Speaking of Jessica, anyone else watching Heroes of Cosplay?

(Just thought I'd derail the thread onto a productive topic)

I have and I am sorry but there are times I just want to fast forward all the parts her and her friend are on. No offense (as they are much nicer people than that lil 14 years old BRAT) but dayum.....the drama and whining reaches ridiculous levels....there are things I am not going to be able to take seriously from her anymore.


on the upside she does sell herself short a lot and she should not

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crimzontearz wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?


No. The analogy is apt. If it were say one or two people, then okay you'd be right. But oh my god it's amazing the amount of people who act like this was an unsurmountable crime against humanity. And okay you lot were angry when the game came out a year and a half ago, and okay the PR wasn't the most friendly (not that I blame them honestly, they tried and were just met with worse). But wow it is a year and a half later and I would not be surprised if some of you were in therapy over it today.

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loungeshep wrote...
No. The analogy is apt. If it were say one or two people, then okay you'd be right. But oh my god it's amazing the amount of people who act like this was an unsurmountable crime against humanity. And okay you lot were angry when the game came out a year and a half ago, and okay the PR wasn't the most friendly (not that I blame them honestly, they tried and were just met with worse). But wow it is a year and a half later and I would not be surprised if some of you were in therapy over it today.


Call me crazy, but I think that might be an indication that the endings were bad :D

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I was never annoyed by the original endings.

However, I do like the endings more when you include DLC and the Extended Cut.

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I still hate the endings but ive moved on. Im not gonna let the ending ruin the rest of the three games.

I look forward to the next game, as long as its not something stupid

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loungeshep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

loungeshep wrote...

It's a year and a half later and....you'd think Casey Hudson mounted some raiding parties and killed your families.

extreme much? They were single handedly responsible for a REALLY bad PR faux pas (two actually) and a subsequent bad handling of it and some further bad choices along the lines after that.

now I am all for giving people the chance to redeem themselves but after all that you have to ask yourself, if you did something like that your place of employment would you still be employed by now?


No. The analogy is apt. If it were say one or two people, then okay you'd be right. But oh my god it's amazing the amount of people who act like this was an unsurmountable crime against humanity. And okay you lot were angry when the game came out a year and a half ago, and okay the PR wasn't the most friendly (not that I blame them honestly, they tried and were just met with worse). But wow it is a year and a half later and I would not be surprised if some of you were in therapy over it today.

....dude


their first response was "OK, you told me what you did not like, now tell me what you liked" (trying to minimalize the issue) and "but we have 75 perfect reviews” (read "people who know better than you disagree")

their second one was "we are sorry you guys thought it was sub par and it hurts us" (notice the subject....it is your fault, and we are the victims)

and finally "you guys did not understand it so we will clarify it" (you guys are dull)

they generated, bar none, the harshest and most explosive negative backlash in the history of videogames


the analogy is not apt at all really, and you did not answer my question.

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I'm good with the ending now that I've got MEHEM installed. But, even before that, I could head canon enough to make the EC ending tolerable. Soooo glad MEHEM got rid of the star kid!

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I really don't understand what people are so mad about. mass effect 3 was a terrible continuation and conclusion to the rest of mass effect 3 story. just like many other stories in books and movies.
Regardless of that mass effect 3 was a solid project. it had a few bugs and fun multiplayer.

The pr was bad too. but who listens to pr anyway.

As for the story you got. you can accept and move on or work to change it with more people who care.

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erezike wrote...

I really don't understand what people are so mad about. mass effect 3 was a terrible continuation and conclusion to the rest of mass effect 3 story. just like many other stories in books and movies.
Regardless of that mass effect 3 was a solid project. it had a few bugs and fun multiplayer.

The pr was bad too. but who listens to pr anyway.

As for the story you got. you can accept and move on or work to change it with more people who care.


I'm mad that Bioware had the nerve to drum up ME3 as something wonderful - when it was not.  There is a decided lack of effort in the game production - especially the intro, dealing with the council, and the ending.

Bioware played the 'art' card when the ending was criticized - and that's cool - but by the same token I too can go and eat a bunch of chillidogs and crap a masterpiece.  My point? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - and I don't know many people who really liked the ending.  One should not call a rancid dogfart art.

Bioware took the lazy approach.  They lied and drummed it all up as some fabulous story - take back earth!  What I got was

1)  A supreme lack of effort
2)  False advertisement.  All that jazz about its not going to be a,b,c, but a rich choice of endings....  was all lies.
3)  Terrible  writing:  Mac and Casey should never work on another project.  At all.  Ever.  The overall direction and plot of ME3 is terrible
4)  Plot holes and stupidities galore.  This fits under terrible writing, but I think it is also due to loss of personnel that worked on ME1 and 2.  The other two games had a quality to them - a magic.  ME3 lacks that magic.  I believe this is because Bioware was busy making people like Mac the Lead Writer, and ignoring the true talent in the company.  The real talent moved on.
5)  No boss fight.  Instead of getting to finally kill Harbinger after having been repeatedly dogged for all of ME2, there is simply nothing.  This lack of continuity shows how far they have fallen at even making games - much less being able to write them.

Have I moved on?  Sure!  Will I ever forgive them?  Nope.  I'll never pre-order anything from this company again.

I still show up, follow up on what's going on because this company used to be the best.  Bioware had a magic that they put into their games.  I want them to get that magic back!  I want them to learn from their mistakes.

Perhaps if we write a decent story they can learn from those ideas like erezike  suggested.