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[Wolfva2]

What EC did was 'correct' some discrepencies; for instance, if you took Garrus with you on Earth ya'll get hit by the blast, you come to, stagger into the beam and it's off to the races in the Citadel. Then, after the Normandy crashes on the planet, you see Garrus walking out (this happens with a few other crew to). How could he be on the ship...AND on Earth? Also, there was much anger that the Normandy even crashed in the first place, confusion about the 'stargazer'...were they descendants of the crew?, stuff like that. I don't think it helped near as much as BW thought it would, and some of the going ons...pre and post EC, make no sense.

[Azaron Nightblade]

Wolfva2 wrote...

What EC did was 'correct' some discrepencies; for instance, if you took Garrus with you on Earth ya'll get hit by the blast, you come to, stagger into the beam and it's off to the races in the Citadel. Then, after the Normandy crashes on the planet, you see Garrus walking out (this happens with a few other crew to). How could he be on the ship...AND on Earth? Also, there was much anger that the Normandy even crashed in the first place, confusion about the 'stargazer'...were they descendants of the crew?, stuff like that. I don't think it helped near as much as BW thought it would, and some of the going ons...pre and post EC, make no sense.

Ah, thanks - I tried to Youtube some of the endings to see the differences but I couldn't stand watching two hours of footage, so I just skimmed through them.
Yeah, so much for the big hype of "We're giving you a better ending, just like you wanted, dear fans!" 
Guess it was a nice publicity stunt for the media "Oh wow, look at Bioware and how far they go for their fans!"

[AlanC9]

Even if you were skimming, you should have noticed that the pre-EC endings had no slides at all and didn't have the Hackett/Sheplyst/EDI narration. Also, Refuse didn't exist except as a game-over screen. Are you sure you looked at the right vids?

The other substantive change is the conversation when the squad is evaced. Which can either be touching or, in EDI's case, unintentionally hilarious.

Modifié par AlanC9, 29 août 2013 - 08:26 .

[Mcfly616]

Azaron Nightblade wrote...


Ah, thanks - I tried to Youtube some of the endings to see the differences but I couldn't stand watching two hours of footage, so I just skimmed through them.
Yeah, so much for the big hype of "We're giving you a better ending, just like you wanted, dear fans!" 
Guess it was a nice publicity stunt for the media "Oh wow, look at Bioware and how far they go for their fans!"

umm....they never said anything of the sort. They only ever promised "additional closure and clarity". So, they delivered on that promise. Believe it or not, it worked for a great deal of people.


Besides, your opinion is moot considering you didn't actually play it, but only "skimmed" through it in YouTube. Well done.

Modifié par Mcfly616, 29 août 2013 - 08:31 .

[crimzontearz]

dreamgazer wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

remember it is all about the math and we are not the majority we thought according to the secret spreadsheets

You realize that "majority" and "minority" aren't just about people liking or disliking the endings, right?

you would be right if it was not for the context of the quote I was referring to and that I pharaphrased

Wolfva2 wrote...

SpamBot2000 wrote...

It's not just you. And it bears repeating until BioWare acknowledge that message. And not just "Oh, the players are sad cuz it ended" or "Dumb players did no get mah ART!"

Heh. Heheh. They DID acknowledge the message. But ya'll ignored them. The ONLY way ya'll will relent in your criticism is if they go back and redo the endings to your specifications. BUT...since so many of ya'll have different ideas of how it SHOULD end...they'll STILL ****** off people. Sure, maybe YOU will be ok with it because they rewrote the entire game to fit what YOU want, but other people will hate it.

The bottom line is you can not make everyone happy. EVER. Your problem is they didn't make YOU happy and you think they should, no matter how many other people they make mad. That's the problem that ALL 'haters' have it seems.

a lot of people just wanted a clear answer by the Voice of God that Shepard survives high EMS Destroy, as in LIVES ON....not just takes a breath.

I got my answer unofficially from a project lead but after that people just got a tasteless trollololol from a Dev at comicon followed by the equivalent of "I know you paid 60$ but do your job for me would you and IMAGINE how it all ends after will ya?"

Mcfly616 wrote...

Azaron Nightblade wrote...


Ah, thanks - I tried to Youtube some of the endings to see the differences but I couldn't stand watching two hours of footage, so I just skimmed through them.
Yeah, so much for the big hype of "We're giving you a better ending, just like you wanted, dear fans!"
Guess it was a nice publicity stunt for the media "Oh wow, look at Bioware and how far they go for their fans!"

umm....they never said anything of the sort. They only ever promised "additional closure and clarity". So, they delivered on that promise. Believe it or not, it worked for a great deal of people.


Besides, your opinion is moot considering you didn't actually play it, but only "skimmed" through it in YouTube. Well done.

have to agree with Mcfly here, they specifically said more clarity not new ending


I am still waiting on my clarity tho

Modifié par crimzontearz, 29 août 2013 - 09:57 .

[FlamingBoy]

dreamgazer wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Is it just me, or is there another ending thread every 12 hours?v

Sci-fi geeks are persistent, man.

There is nothing else really worth talking about when it comes to mass effect, Its the nature of that ending.

Theres is extrodinary lack of interest in the sequel, perhaps when it comes closer to the date it will be more popular topic. But for now we will yabber on with the pieces bioware left there franchise in.

[LixiLane]

The endings don't really bother me. I knew I was playing a Mass Effect AU once the crucible was introduced and that was way back on Mars.

[Wolfva2]

FlamingBoy wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Is it just me, or is there another ending thread every 12 hours?v

Sci-fi geeks are persistent, man.

There is nothing else really worth talking about when it comes to mass effect, Its the nature of that ending.

Theres is extrodinary lack of interest in the sequel, perhaps when it comes closer to the date it will be more popular topic. But for now we will yabber on with the pieces bioware left there franchise in.

Yep.  Extraordinary lack of interest in ME4.  Which explains why there's a new post or 3 a day with people speculating or asking what it's about....

A more accurate statement would be that YOU have no interest in it.  But other people DO.  You're right though, that as the project gets closer to release it'll become a more popular topic.  Heck, we barely know anything atall about it as it is.

[TheMyron]

Uh, Joker, where the hell are you going? If you are leaving Shepard, at least stay with the rest of the fleet. and head for the planned rendezvous point.

That rather stupid action still takes place with the EC. And I would rather see a cut-scene of Shepard's combined crew searching for his/her body in the citadel rubble. Grunt would want to find his Battlemaster, and Shepard's LI will be on one of the first shuttles heading up towards the damaged citadel.

Modifié par TheMyron, 29 août 2013 - 10:31 .

[Wolfva2]

Yeah, Jack got Shep that tatoo for a reason (when she's the LI). I don't think a Reaper could stop her from looking for him.

[FlamingBoy]

Wolfva2 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Is it just me, or is there another ending thread every 12 hours?v

Sci-fi geeks are persistent, man.

There is nothing else really worth talking about when it comes to mass effect, Its the nature of that ending.

Theres is extrodinary lack of interest in the sequel, perhaps when it comes closer to the date it will be more popular topic. But for now we will yabber on with the pieces bioware left there franchise in.

Yep.  Extraordinary lack of interest in ME4.  Which explains why there's a new post or 3 a day with people speculating or asking what it's about....

A more accurate statement would be that YOU have no interest in it.  But other people DO.  You're right though, that as the project gets closer to release it'll become a more popular topic.  Heck, we barely know anything atall about it as it is.

There was a time when a snipet from bioware would generate alot more hype than "3 posts a day", the fact of the matter is there is significantly less interest atm for the sequel, and because of that the topic is about the ending because thats all that their is worth talking about.

Edit: 3 posts a day is not an impressive number by any stretch of the imagination.

Modifié par FlamingBoy, 29 août 2013 - 11:18 .

[shepskisaac]

crimzontearz wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

anyways, the argument is that, in their mind, everybody is happy....

Yeah I'm sure they think that after getting tons of nerdrage tweets, colored cupkaes delivered to their HQs, BSN spammed with "HOLD THE LINEEEE!!!11" threads for months after release etc.

do I HAVE to quote Jessica?

Actually yeah, I wonder which quote you're thinking about

[crimzontearz]

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

anyways, the argument is that, in their mind, everybody is happy....

Yeah I'm sure they think that after getting tons of nerdrage tweets, colored cupkaes delivered to their HQs, BSN spammed with "HOLD THE LINEEEE!!!11" threads for months after release etc.

do I HAVE to quote Jessica?

Actually yeah, I wonder which quote you're thinking about

the one in which she said (implied rather, in a rather sarcastic tone) according to her numbers bioware will not publish regarding the feedback more people wanted DLC other than a reunion scene/expanded ending

[crimzontearz]

Wolfva2 wrote...

FlamingBoy wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Is it just me, or is there another ending thread every 12 hours?v

Sci-fi geeks are persistent, man.

There is nothing else really worth talking about when it comes to mass effect, Its the nature of that ending.

Theres is extrodinary lack of interest in the sequel, perhaps when it comes closer to the date it will be more popular topic. But for now we will yabber on with the pieces bioware left there franchise in.

Yep.  Extraordinary lack of interest in ME4.  Which explains why there's a new post or 3 a day with people speculating or asking what it's about....

A more accurate statement would be that YOU have no interest in it.  But other people DO.  You're right though, that as the project gets closer to release it'll become a more popular topic.  Heck, we barely know anything atall about it as it is.

you mean all those post in which people wonder about ME4 in relation to the mess left behind by the BS ending and mostly hoping for it not being a prequel but realizing there would be little other options for a direct sequel?

[dorktainian]

we'll know more about ME4 in a couple of weeks. Will anyone still be interested by then? Absolutely.

[crimzontearz]

dorktainian wrote...

we'll know more about ME4 in a couple of weeks. Will anyone still be interested by then? Absolutely.

depends on the announcement itself

[TheProtheans]

Br3ad wrote...

Is it just me, or is there another ending thread every 12 hours?v

The game is fairly dull so it is better to talk about the most interesting part of the game especially when it is horrible.

[AlanC9]

FlamingBoy wrote...

There was a time when a snipet from bioware would generate alot more hype than "3 posts a day", the fact of the matter is there is significantly less interest atm for the sequel, and because of that the topic is about the ending because thats all that their is worth talking about.

Edit: 3 posts a day is not an impressive number by any stretch of the imagination.

This argument would make sense if e'd actually had any snippets in the last month or so.

[CronoDragoon]

crimzontearz wrote...

I eagerly await the quote in which I said Bioware directly said everybody is happy

but nice try crono

Backpedaling doesn't work when what you said is still in the thread.

1. You said in BW's mind, everybody is happy.
2. Someone challenged you on this.
3. "Do I have to quote Jessica?"

Either you posted a non sequitur or you're wrong.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 29 août 2013 - 05:00 .

[AlanC9]

crimzontearz wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...
do I HAVE to quote Jessica?

Actually yeah, I wonder which quote you're thinking about

the one in which she said (implied rather, in a rather sarcastic tone) according to her numbers bioware will not publish regarding the feedback more people wanted DLC other than a reunion scene/expanded ending

Speaking of Jessica, anyone else watching Heroes of Cosplay?

(Just thought I'd derail the thread onto a productive topic)

Modifié par AlanC9, 29 août 2013 - 05:12 .

[TheMyron]

Still: What exactly did Bioware have in mind when they had Joker desert the rest of the Fleet? Getting a safe distance from Harbinger was one thing, but leaving the system entirely was another, and I highly doubt the rendezvous was beyond the Charon Relay.

[TheMyron]

dorktainian wrote...

we'll know more about ME4 in a couple of weeks. Will anyone still be interested by then? Absolutely.

One reason why I support a miniature Non-Rpg game that shows the First Contact War is because I want to see just how the "Asari and Salarians intervened". Sadly, the only info of the FCW that I can find is one little video of a human being interrogated, and a stupid comic book that focuses only the early days of TIM.

[crimzontearz]

CronoDragoon wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I eagerly await the quote in which I said Bioware directly said everybody is happy

but nice try crono

Backpedaling doesn't work when what you said is still in the thread.

1. You said in BW's mind, everybody is happy.
2. Someone challenged you on this.
3. "Do I have to quote Jessica?"

Either you posted a non sequitur or you're wrong.

because my statement was worded to highlight a flaw in bioware's thought process or a flat out lie....read above

[Azaron Nightblade]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Azaron Nightblade wrote...


Ah, thanks - I tried to Youtube some of the endings to see the differences but I couldn't stand watching two hours of footage, so I just skimmed through them.
Yeah, so much for the big hype of "We're giving you a better ending, just like you wanted, dear fans!" 
Guess it was a nice publicity stunt for the media "Oh wow, look at Bioware and how far they go for their fans!"

umm....they never said anything of the sort. They only ever promised "additional closure and clarity". So, they delivered on that promise. Believe it or not, it worked for a great deal of people.


Besides, your opinion is moot considering you didn't actually play it, but only "skimmed" through it in YouTube. Well done.

I watched the EC endings, what I meant was that I didn't do a complete "side-by-side" comparisson of what had been changed, hence the question. 
As for the "better ending", fair enough - I stand corrected, and glad I didn't finish it pre-EC as it sounds even worse then.

[Azaron Nightblade]

crimzontearz wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

I eagerly await the quote in which I said Bioware directly said everybody is happy

but nice try crono

Backpedaling doesn't work when what you said is still in the thread.

1. You said in BW's mind, everybody is happy.
2. Someone challenged you on this.
3. "Do I have to quote Jessica?"

Either you posted a non sequitur or you're wrong.

because my statement was worded to highlight a flaw in bioware's thought process or a flat out lie....read above

So what's the deal there? Not everyone in BW is happy about it? Or they are?