Depends on the issue in this one it's Wrex going after Fist. Next one will be Ash on Eden prime. Overall approach is that Brooks/Cerebrus was involved with each of these events somehow.OdanUrr wrote...
Greylycantrope wrote...
Mainly that it's a rehash of an old plot, now with Cerberus.OdanUrr wrote...
So, what's the issue with this new comic series?
What old plot?
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The Homeworlds and Foundation comics are going to be interspersed throughout the chronology
Greylycantrope wrote...
Depends on the issue in this one it's Wrex going after Fist. Next on ewill be Ash on Eden prime. Overall approach is that Brooks/Cerebrus was involved with each of these events somehow.OdanUrr wrote...
Greylycantrope wrote...
Mainly that it's a rehash of an old plot, now with Cerberus.OdanUrr wrote...
So, what's the issue with this new comic series?
What old plot?
Even that would be better then...this. I swear Macs goal is to destroy and contradict everything from the first game and have Cerberus be everywhere.OdanUrr wrote...
Greylycantrope wrote...
Depends on the issue in this one it's Wrex going after Fist. Next on ewill be Ash on Eden prime. Overall approach is that Brooks/Cerebrus was involved with each of these events somehow.OdanUrr wrote...
Greylycantrope wrote...
Mainly that it's a rehash of an old plot, now with Cerberus.OdanUrr wrote...
So, what's the issue with this new comic series?
What old plot?
Ah, so the issue is that Cerberus is being transformed into an omniscient organization then? Yes, I'd certainly have a problem with that. I thought it was they were using cameos and old plots to introduce new characters.
Mr.House wrote...
Even that would be better then...this. I swear Macs goal is to destroy and contradict everything from the first game and have Cerberus be everywhere.
At this point, Cerberus is space Illuminati.OdanUrr wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Even that would be better then...this. I swear Macs goal is to destroy and contradict everything from the first game and have Cerberus be everywhere.
You mean the omniscient part or the cameo part?
Mr.House wrote...
At this point, Cerberus is space Illuminati.OdanUrr wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Even that would be better then...this. I swear Macs goal is to destroy and contradict everything from the first game and have Cerberus be everywhere.
You mean the omniscient part or the cameo part?
Cerberus was stated to be a rogue black ops group that no one but the Alliance knows about in the game, now apprently they where invovled with Fist and Wrex. What? Best thing? Wrex has no clue what Cerberus is in the game. GOOD GOING MACOdanUrr wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
At this point, Cerberus is space Illuminati.OdanUrr wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Even that would be better then...this. I swear Macs goal is to destroy and contradict everything from the first game and have Cerberus be everywhere.
You mean the omniscient part or the cameo part?
And what exactly is this comic series contradicting?
From what you've read isn't the same as reading the comic for yourself.AresKeith wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
I have read it.MegaSovereign wrote...
I haven't read the comic, is it that bad?
I feel like a huge chunk of the comments on this thread are knee-jerk reactions.
Its not AS bad as some people are making it out to be. The comic itself is fine.
I'm more vexed by the inclusion of Cerberus in a completely unnecessary manner, and the re-hashing of already covered ground.
From what I read in the thread, the main issue IS the inclusion of Cerberus
plus the whole Wrex and C-sec thing
N7 Shadow 90 wrote...
From what you've read isn't the same as reading the comic for yourself.
If you don't want to read it, that's obviously fine, it's your choice. But do you not think that it's completely unfair to criticize a story that you haven't experienced yourself?
Which specific criticism do you find unfair?N7 Shadow 90 wrote...
From what you've read isn't the same as reading the comic for yourself.
If you don't want to read it, that's obviously fine, it's your choice. But do you not think that it's completely unfair to criticize a story that you haven't experienced yourself?
Why would Wrex know about Cerberus? He wanted to get the job done, and that's it. He's not interested in other partiesMr.House wrote...
Cerberus was stated to be a rogue black ops group that no one but the Alliance knows about in the game, now apprently they where invovled with Fist and Wrex. What? Best thing? Wrex has no clue what Cerberus is in the game. GOOD GOING MACOdanUrr wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
At this point, Cerberus is space Illuminati.OdanUrr wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Even that would be better then...this. I swear Macs goal is to destroy and contradict everything from the first game and have Cerberus be everywhere.
You mean the omniscient part or the cameo part?
And what exactly is this comic series contradicting?
Alright, maybe not a great choice of words on my part. Although, you just reiterated my point. Although you've only read the synopsis, not the comic itself, you're saying that the inclusion of something brought the comic down and that something in it was stupid. Sometimes it's not about what's told, but how it's told.AresKeith wrote...
N7 Shadow 90 wrote...
From what you've read isn't the same as reading the comic for yourself.
If you don't want to read it, that's obviously fine, it's your choice. But do you not think that it's completely unfair to criticize a story that you haven't experienced yourself?
Implying that the story itself is being critcized, when it is not
I read the synposis of the comic (which is the second best thing to do), the story isn't bad but the issue that brought the comic down was the inclusion on Cerberus
Plus the whole thing with Wrex and C-sec was just stupid
Which is exactly what most of the people in this thread was talking about, not the story of Wrex but Mac Walters turning Cerberus into the "Space Illuminati"
If the main points of the comic don't appeal to you and you decide not to buy, then that's of course absolutely fine. It's completely your choice. My problem is when people actively criticize something that they haven't experienced themselves, and just heard about from others. And I'm not accusing you of doing that by any means.Greylycantrope wrote...
Which specific criticism do you find unfair?N7 Shadow 90 wrote...
From what you've read isn't the same as reading the comic for yourself.
If you don't want to read it, that's obviously fine, it's your choice. But do you not think that it's completely unfair to criticize a story that you haven't experienced yourself?
I mean forgive me if I sound over critical but the only praise I've heard about it was the Wrex is in it, there's a cameo of fist and that Brooks and Leng get a few character moments. Personally only one of those strikes me as a plus. Is there some context I'm missing that makes Leng and Brooks appealing characters? Cause honesly I'm only speaking from presonal preference and what I find lacking in the material not as some percieved authority on whether this comic is good or not.
Mr.House wrote...
It does not matter how it's told. Cerberus being there causes a bigass problem, or did you not play ME?
Wrex has never heard of Cerberus, now they are involved in this event. This comic not only contradicts the game, it makes Wrex look like a goddam moron.
Sorry, but I'd have to guess that you haven't read the comic either.Mr.House wrote...
It does not matter how it's told. Cerberus being there causes a bigass problem, or did you not play ME?
Wrex has never heard of Cerberus, now they are involved in this event. This comic not only contradicts the game, it makes Wrex look like a goddam moron.
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Wrex is now an 'idiot' because he didn't realize a woman in working overalls was a Cerberus operative?! Care to explain how?Mr.House wrote...
So Wrex is now an idiot and Cerberus is not a small black ops group as shown, told and supported in ME. You wonder why people are complaining? Bayformers is better written then this joke of a series now.
Mr.House wrote...
Even if I where to accept that ,how about the fact that he does not remember or even notice it's her in Citadel? What's your defense for that?
He was in charge of Citadel, and he was a writer for ME. There is no excuse for this kind of crap he keeps pulling.billy the squid wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
Hell Mac contradicts ME AND Citadel dlc, something HE WAS IN CHARGE OF. That's just....sad.
ME? As in ME1? I thought Drew Karpyshyn was the writer for that, I believe he was, and for ME2 as well, along with Hack Walters.
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