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[ISHYGDDT]

Annomander wrote...

FailQuotes pls, it's bioware's variables which count here.

Simply adding an extra 0 to the enemyinterplocspeed variable causes the enemies to become inordinately dumb.

Removing the 0 from the default 20 (reducing it to 2) gives your AI "aimbot".

AFAIR, "enemyinterplocspeed" = 20 means the enemy AI gets an update on player locations every 20 frames. Meaning, at 30fps, the enemy updates your location every 0.66 seconds. At 120 fps, it's every 0.166 seconds... hence why the AI is dumber at lower frame rates, it's nothing to do with code really, it's a static variable which makes the code do what it's supposed to, with huge variance depending on frame rate.

Other Unreal Engine games probably do not use similar variables, though there will always be a dip in AI performance at lower frame rates simply due to lack of processing power.

And don't kid yourself FailQuotes, there's no way you play anywhere near 120fps, not after that performance vs fasterthanftl, no self respecting person with 120fps fails that badly.

 Just to be clear, that means if I set enemy interplocspeed to 10 I'm getting the 'full PC experience™' if I play at 30 FPS, right?

[BridgeBurner]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Annomander wrote...

FailQuotes pls, it's bioware's variables which count here.

Simply adding an extra 0 to the enemyinterplocspeed variable causes the enemies to become inordinately dumb.

Removing the 0 from the default 20 (reducing it to 2) gives your AI "aimbot".

AFAIR, "enemyinterplocspeed" = 20 means the enemy AI gets an update on player locations every 20 frames. Meaning, at 30fps, the enemy updates your location every 0.66 seconds. At 120 fps, it's every 0.166 seconds... hence why the AI is dumber at lower frame rates, it's nothing to do with code really, it's a static variable which makes the code do what it's supposed to, with huge variance depending on frame rate.

Other Unreal Engine games probably do not use similar variables, though there will always be a dip in AI performance at lower frame rates simply due to lack of processing power.

And don't kid yourself FailQuotes, there's no way you play anywhere near 120fps, not after that performance vs fasterthanftl, no self respecting person with 120fps fails that badly.

 Just to be clear, that means if I set enemy interplocspeed to 10 I'm getting the 'full PC experience™' if I play at 30 FPS, right?

Hmmm, yes, and no. I do believe processing power will still throttle the AI to some degree, but if you change it to 10, theoretically, yes, the enemy will be updating your location just as often @30fps as it does @ 60fps.

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[ISHYGDDT]

Annomander wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Annomander wrote...

FailQuotes pls, it's bioware's variables which count here.

Simply adding an extra 0 to the enemyinterplocspeed variable causes the enemies to become inordinately dumb.

Removing the 0 from the default 20 (reducing it to 2) gives your AI "aimbot".

AFAIR, "enemyinterplocspeed" = 20 means the enemy AI gets an update on player locations every 20 frames. Meaning, at 30fps, the enemy updates your location every 0.66 seconds. At 120 fps, it's every 0.166 seconds... hence why the AI is dumber at lower frame rates, it's nothing to do with code really, it's a static variable which makes the code do what it's supposed to, with huge variance depending on frame rate.

Other Unreal Engine games probably do not use similar variables, though there will always be a dip in AI performance at lower frame rates simply due to lack of processing power.

And don't kid yourself FailQuotes, there's no way you play anywhere near 120fps, not after that performance vs fasterthanftl, no self respecting person with 120fps fails that badly.

 Just to be clear, that means if I set enemy interplocspeed to 10 I'm getting the 'full PC experience™' if I play at 30 FPS, right?

Hmmm, yes, and no. I do believe processing power will still throttle the AI to some degree, but if you change it to 10, theoretically, yes, the enemy will be updating your location just as often @30fps as it does @ 60fps.

so is AI handled by the GPU or the CPU?  (sorry if this is a noob question.)

[BridgeBurner]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Annomander wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Annomander wrote...

FailQuotes pls, it's bioware's variables which count here.

Simply adding an extra 0 to the enemyinterplocspeed variable causes the enemies to become inordinately dumb.

Removing the 0 from the default 20 (reducing it to 2) gives your AI "aimbot".

AFAIR, "enemyinterplocspeed" = 20 means the enemy AI gets an update on player locations every 20 frames. Meaning, at 30fps, the enemy updates your location every 0.66 seconds. At 120 fps, it's every 0.166 seconds... hence why the AI is dumber at lower frame rates, it's nothing to do with code really, it's a static variable which makes the code do what it's supposed to, with huge variance depending on frame rate.

Other Unreal Engine games probably do not use similar variables, though there will always be a dip in AI performance at lower frame rates simply due to lack of processing power.

And don't kid yourself FailQuotes, there's no way you play anywhere near 120fps, not after that performance vs fasterthanftl, no self respecting person with 120fps fails that badly.

 Just to be clear, that means if I set enemy interplocspeed to 10 I'm getting the 'full PC experience™' if I play at 30 FPS, right?

Hmmm, yes, and no. I do believe processing power will still throttle the AI to some degree, but if you change it to 10, theoretically, yes, the enemy will be updating your location just as often @30fps as it does @ 60fps.

so is AI handled by the GPU or the CPU?  (sorry if this is a noob question.)

Both, to a certain degree., though predominantly CPU. As evidenced by the PS3, certain things caused by the AI: smoke grenades, collector possession effects will put the GPU under strain.

Like most games, GPU speed is inherently tied to your CPU. A computer tends to only be as good as it's worst component.

Modifié par Annomander, 30 août 2013 - 09:07 .

[capn233]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

so is AI handled by the GPU or the CPU?  (sorry if this is a noob question.)

Should be on the CPU.  Also I would have figured if any throttling occurs from setting loc speed to 10, it would be evident in further reduced output framerate.

[RoundedPlanet88]

Annomander wrote...

Both, to a certain degree., though predominantly CPU. As evidenced by the PS3, certain things caused by the AI: smoke grenades, collector possession effects will put the GPU under strain.

I wonder if WiiU players have issues with collectors.

[LuckyBullet95]

Cyonan wrote...

and now we've returned to our regularly scheduled insanity after a break while somebody who probably couldn't even write a hello world program tells developers how to do their jobs.

Also, you aren't going to fix your perceived problem with Infiltrators by nerfing the guns that casters use.

I can write a hello world program, can I now tell BioWare how to do their jobs?


Also @AirQuotes you do realise that in actuallity the more powerful kits (in terms of ease of use which true overpoweredness should be based around) are (obviously) the Kroguard and the Juggy. I have NEVER seen a random do well with the GI or AIU, in fact I've never seen a good TGI Harrier in all honesty outside of a select few "BotB" score****rs on Platinum... and most of their kills came from Wave 11 missilling... IF the GI was one of the most overpowered kits in the game then surely I should have seen more people outside of the really good players (SPECTRE, Team AreleX, a few others on here I've played with) make it shine. I'm not debating that it's powerful but it's hardly "one of the most" overpowered when there's clearly a factor of skill required to play it.

Modifié par LuckyBullet95, 30 août 2013 - 09:02 .

[capn233]

I am not so sure on Battlemaster. He is tanky, but he isn't an offensive powerhouse or anything unless you slap on a couple weapons that do too much damage per weight and happen to have extreme synergy with close range characters...

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  return 0;
}

Modifié par capn233, 30 août 2013 - 09:11 .

[BridgeBurner]

capn233 wrote...

I am not so sure on Battlemaster. He is tanky, but he isn't an offensive powerhouse or anything unless you slap on a couple weapons that do too much damage per weight and happen to have extreme synergy with close range characters...

I think the problem with the kroguard is that sooner or later everyone runs into a cookie cutter reegar-kroguard player and all of a sudden realises; hey, that guy is invincible and killing EVERYTHING. I wanna be like him!

[StoxRegalia]

I think I figured out why PC players never talk. They tear each other apart on the forums so hard that it becomes to awkward to speak to each other in a game.

[capn233]

Notorious P I G wrote...

I think I figured out why PC players never talk. They tear each other apart on the forums so hard that it becomes to awkward to speak to each other in a game.

Yeah this is why.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

and now we've returned to our regularly scheduled insanity after a break while somebody who probably couldn't even write a hello world program tells developers how to do their jobs.

Also, you aren't going to fix your perceived problem with Infiltrators by nerfing the guns that casters use.

I can write a hello world program, can I now tell BioWare how to do their jobs?


Also @AirQuotes you do realise that in actuallity the more powerful kits (in terms of ease of use which true overpoweredness should be based around) are (obviously) the Kroguard and the Juggy. I have NEVER seen a random do well with the GI or AIU, in fact I've never seen a good TGI Harrier in all honesty outside of a select few "BotB" score****rs on Platinum... and most of their kills came from Wave 11 missilling... IF the GI was one of the most overpowered kits in the game then surely I should have seen more people outside of the really good players (SPECTRE, Team AreleX, a few others on here I've played with) make it shine. I'm not debating that it's powerful but it's hardly "one of the most" overpowered when there's clearly a factor of skill required to play it.

That's an interesting point.  

[BridgeBurner]

Notorious P I G wrote...

I think I figured out why PC players never talk. They tear each other apart on the forums so hard that it becomes to awkward to speak to each other in a game.

Or we're on teamspeak, and don't want the puggernauts, lolAIUs and shield-booster volus care bears to know we're smack talking them?

Modifié par Annomander, 30 août 2013 - 09:15 .

[StoxRegalia]

Annomander wrote...

Notorious P I G wrote...

I think I figured out why PC players never talk. They tear each other apart on the forums so hard that it becomes to awkward to speak to each other in a game.

Or we're on teamspeak, and don't want the puggernauts, lolAIUs and shield-booster volus care bears to know we're smack talking them?

Like those damn forgeiners speaking their native language, occasionally looking at you and laughing.

[satchel]

Element 0 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

Annomander wrote...

FailQuotes pls, it's bioware's variables which count here.

Simply adding an extra 0 to the enemyinterplocspeed variable causes the enemies to become inordinately dumb.

Removing the 0 from the default 20 (reducing it to 2) gives your AI "aimbot".

AFAIR, "enemyinterplocspeed" = 20 means the enemy AI gets an update on player locations every 20 frames. Meaning, at 30fps, the enemy updates your location every 0.66 seconds. At 120 fps, it's every 0.166 seconds... hence why the AI is dumber at lower frame rates, it's nothing to do with code really, it's a static variable which makes the code do what it's supposed to, with huge variance depending on frame rate.

Other Unreal Engine games probably do not use similar variables, though there will always be a dip in AI performance at lower frame rates simply due to lack of processing power.

And don't kid yourself FailQuotes, there's no way you play anywhere near 120fps, not after that performance vs fasterthanftl, no self respecting person with 120fps fails that badly.

 

Pfff. I know about that interpret my loc speed thingy. Caratinoid told me about it months and months ago. 

Also, keyboard knight, show us your Platinum duos. Wanna do one now? 

I don't duo with scrubs who can't even complete a game, or get a 20 headshots medal using a GI talon... Remember, that really OP character that you still failed with?

And don't call other people a Keyboard knight either, it makes you look desperate, particularly if you have no IRL photos, or you refuse to tell people your name... I guess that would make you the "keyboard knight", huh?

 

I'm sorry you idiot, but I did get 20 headshots. Both times. So. Eff off. 

Guess you're just camera shy. And no, on the screenshots I saw, there was no 20 headshots medal. Not difficult, is it?

I may be an idiot, but what does that make you? People prove you wrong, time and time again, yet you still keep blindly repeating the same BS, without any logic or facts to back up anything you're saying...?

 

Yo stupid ass, you gonna make Spitfire false fact claims again? 

 

 

And he's says I'm making up facts. 

Can you blame a man for falling asleep that far into the live stream?

[MaxShine]

It looks interesting... So what is this thread about now? At page 1 it was about some balance changes and now it is about whether or not AQ got a 20 headshot medal in a match that happened ages ago? LOL

[BridgeBurner]

Element 0 wrote...

 



And he's says I'm making up facts. 

Can't help but notice that you get an assists, kills then a weapon kills medal before 5 headshots.

I didn't follow your whole shameful display with FTL, it got embarrassing to watch after a while.

Also, Fission Mailed? SkillQuotes pls.

As for the spitfire thread, I made it pretty clear that the spitfire was a competitor for the typhoon on the trooper. This is true, ergo, I did not make up facts. You are the one who read what you wanted into what I wrote, and refused to acknowledge what i was saying. I remain right; the spitfire is more than a competitor for the typhoon on the trooper, and that is all I said.

Your lack of comprehension is truly astounding, and calling someone an idiot after some of the moronic posts you've made in this very thread?

Ironic, to say the least.

Modifié par Annomander, 30 août 2013 - 09:27 .

[DullahansXMark]

Edit: Wow, I was late to the party.

Modifié par DullahansXMark, 30 août 2013 - 09:32 .

[RoundedPlanet88]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Edit: Wow, I was late to the party.

Just like the WiiU players.
Are you a WiiU player?

[BridgeBurner]

RoundedPlanet88 wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Edit: Wow, I was late to the party.

Just like the WiiU players.
Are you a WiiU player?

I'm a grill gamer who plays on the WiiU.

CAN I PLAY WITH A SPECTAR?

[ISHYGDDT]

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Seriously though, aimbot ai is pretty ridiculous (I usually have ~4 medigel left at the end with the asariguard.)  I ran out early this time, hence the longish final time.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 30 août 2013 - 09:44 .