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Bioware, please apply this last weapons balance change!


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#151
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Cyonan wrote...

The Typhoon features a face plate to protect the user from headshots.

Have you PC people found a way to make the Typhoon grant the DR it is supposedly meant to grant?

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Bioware, please let me feed the code monkeys bananas!

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capn233 wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

If the recoil was nerfed back to what it was pre-bff, the recoil mod would be almost required for it on a non-Turian.

I am not so sure that zoom recoil at 1.25 would really require the recoil mod.  I think that essentially most people would still just fight the recoil and eat the encumbrance penalty in their cooldown without too much trouble.

I guess we can simply agree to disagree.

 

You will not hipfire across Rio. Even with a GI. Plus hipfire = forget about constant headshots with it. 

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^that's one map, whoopee.
hurricane never need constant headshots anyways.

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DHKany wrote...

^that's one map, whoopee.
hurricane never need constant headshots anyways.

 

For maximm effectiveness vs mooks - it does. If you body shot them, they instantly hop or roll which makes you waste bullets re-aiming. 

ADS VS Hipfire is a huge difference. 

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^lol wasting bullets.

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DHKany wrote...

^lol wasting bullets.

 

Kany 1vs1 with me baby. :P 

Both same kit, Hurricane. You are not allowed to ADS. See how well it goes. 

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I don't need to 1v1 someone to know that the reason the hurricane is called the hurrdurricane is because it doesn't rely on anything (besides AP) to deal monstrous DPS.

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DHKany wrote...

I don't need to 1v1 someone to know that the reason the hurricane is called the hurrdurricane is because it doesn't rely on anything (besides AP) to deal monstrous DPS.



 

Scurrd? The only time you can really hipfire is when firing at huge targets, like Brutes or Ravagers or Atlas. But even then ADS will make sure more bullets hit where you aim. 

Modifié par Element 0, 29 août 2013 - 10:59 .


#160
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I support the OP completely with one exception: don't f*cking touch my wraith.

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sobit wrote...

I support the OP completely with one exception: don't f*cking touch my wraith.

Don't f*cking touch my reegar, heretics, i double dare ya'll.

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Instead Nerfing OP weapons and Abilities, Buff Enemies Accordingly. We get a ton of buffs, why not the enemies.

Some lore friendliness is alright as long as there is a challenge. I would love to see Talon with 6 shots and much stronger enemies. Same with the Piranha with 8 shots and stronger bosses.

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Just so you know your balance changes are atrocious. Like really really bad.

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DeathScepter wrote...

Instead Nerfing OP weapons and Abilities, Buff Enemies Accordingly. We get a ton of buffs, why not the enemies.

Some lore friendliness is alright as long as there is a challenge. I would love to see Talon with 6 shots and much stronger enemies. Same with the Piranha with 8 shots and stronger bosses.


That's a lot of balancing work with a much larger chance of not getting it right just to achieve the exact same effect.

It's much easier just to nerf the OP toys(but not to Krysae them).

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I agree on all, except Wraith. Don't touch the wraith.

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Recoil is never an issue in this game because the recoil direction is always predictable.

A good way to balance the Hurricane is to reduce its number of mod slots from 2 to 1 because it's already a very specialized design. I've never understood why every weapon has the same number of mod slots. Some weapons like PPR should not be mod-able at all. And some large weapons like the Typhoon and Claymore should have more (let's say 3) mod slots.

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NERF my Talon?!?!?!?!

The ONE good thing about the cessation of support is that it spelled the end of nerfs.

I missed the glory days of just about every OP weapon by the time I finally unlocked them. The Typhoon was particularly painful--I think I got it a day or two after it got slammed by the nerf bat.

#168
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Tokenusername wrote...

Element 0 wrote...

It's not as hard as making new DLC. If they cared they would've kept doing monthly ballance changes.

This is the most ignorant and most insensitive things you've ever said.

I'm done with you.


This.
I was laughing my ass off err coots, and coughing too boot, and then I read this.

Look at all the FREE MP DLCS

Look at  the MASSIVE amounts of balance changes in the balance change thread, there are regular updates to balance the game, over a WHOLE YEAR.

Look at the new characters, and concepts that were added in the DLCs.

Look at all the weekend events, dev support, and dev feedback

Look at how WE HAVE A FORUM WHERE WE CAN POST ABOUT THIS STUFF.

Are you seriously looking at all of this and saying that "if they cared they would`ve kept on doing monthly balance changes."??!!!

Airquotes plx, go away, and don`t make another account.

#169
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So...it's people like you who are the reason behind weapons getting destroyed. Overall, the suggestions aren't too bad. But you want to turn the acolyte, hurricane and talon into something like the krysae? Why? I suck at this game, and would hate to see my favourite weapons destroyed. Right now, I can't handle the hurricane's recoil at all unless I am using a character with stability bonuses or a stability mod/consumable. But you want to give it MORE recoil?

Reegar...why...why are you asking them to nerf it? Have you ever tried using the reegar on a non-vanguard/non-infiltrator against platinum geth on London/hydra/Jade/ghost/Vancouver? It already has an absolutely huge drawback...its range. It is perfectly balanced. I still suck at the game. You really want to make me suck even more by destroying one of my favourite weapons?

Piranha...WHY?? Why are we not allowed to have powerful weapons? The enemies are extremely powerful and have the ability to cheat. The game is buggy as hell, and those bugs will screw you over often. So why can't we have powerful guns to compensate? They already destroyed the piranha once, why do you want it to be nerfed again man?
Your post baffles me and actually makes me sad. I really can't understand why you're asking for a hurricane and harrier nerf. While they're very powerful weapons, they have such major drawbacks and I believe they're perfectly balanced as they are. The acolyte takes a long time to charge up, so I feel like the high damage against shields is worth it. It's a slow gun, you have to aim carefully and make every single shot count.

I want to cry now.

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XFG-65 wrote...

So...it's people like you who are the reason behind weapons getting destroyed. Overall, the suggestions aren't too bad. But you want to turn the acolyte, hurricane and talon into something like the krysae? Why? I suck at this game, and would hate to see my favourite weapons destroyed. Right now, I can't handle the hurricane's recoil at all unless I am using a character with stability bonuses or a stability mod/consumable. But you want to give it MORE recoil?

Reegar...why...why are you asking them to nerf it? Have you ever tried using the reegar on a non-vanguard/non-infiltrator against platinum geth on London/hydra/Jade/ghost/Vancouver? It already has an absolutely huge drawback...its range. It is perfectly balanced. I still suck at the game. You really want to make me suck even more by destroying one of my favourite weapons?

Piranha...WHY?? Why are we not allowed to have powerful weapons? The enemies are extremely powerful and have the ability to cheat. The game is buggy as hell, and those bugs will screw you over often. So why can't we have powerful guns to compensate? They already destroyed the piranha once, why do you want it to be nerfed again man?
Your post baffles me and actually makes me sad. I really can't understand why you're asking for a hurricane and harrier nerf. While they're very powerful weapons, they have such major drawbacks and I believe they're perfectly balanced as they are. The acolyte takes a long time to charge up, so I feel like the high damage against shields is worth it. It's a slow gun, you have to aim carefully and make every single shot count.

I want to cry now.


I want to cry after having read this. 

#171
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galaxygrunt wrote...

NERF my Talon?!?!?!?!

The ONE good thing about the cessation of support is that it spelled the end of nerfs.

I missed the glory days of just about every OP weapon by the time I finally unlocked them. The Typhoon was particularly painful--I think I got it a day or two after it got slammed by the nerf bat.


AQ's nerf to the Talon would barely even do anything to it.

Plus, the Typhoon is still incredibly powerful even in its nerfed state.

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Lol, as punishment for complaining too much, Bioware makes all of our guns' damage reduced by half. :-(

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I really feel sorry for the people who started playing the game since it first came out, seeing so many weapons being destroyed. The only nerf I saw was to the AIU. completely destroyed the character for me and almost completely stopped using here afterwards. I can't imagine I would have carried on playing this game if I ever had the chance to use the original krysae, piranha, chargeless acolyte, falcon, destoryer, cloak and typhoon.

Modifié par XFG-65, 30 août 2013 - 02:31 .


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XFG-65 wrote...

I really feel sorry for the people who started playing the game since it first came out, seeing so many weapons being destroyed. The only nerf I saw was to the AIU. completely destroyed the character for me and almost completely stopped using here afterwards. I can't imagine I would have carried on playing this game if I ever had the chance to use the original krysae, piranha, chargeless acolyte, falcon, destoryer, cloak and typhoon.


QQ some more. AIU is still retardedly powerful. 

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DHKany wrote...

XFG-65 wrote...

I really feel sorry for the people who started playing the game since it first came out, seeing so many weapons being destroyed. The only nerf I saw was to the AIU. completely destroyed the character for me and almost completely stopped using here afterwards. I can't imagine I would have carried on playing this game if I ever had the chance to use the original krysae, piranha, chargeless acolyte, falcon, destoryer, cloak and typhoon.


QQ some more. AIU is still retardedly powerful. 


especially that 6/6/6/6/6 build he`s using Image IPB