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[Jawzzus]

I have finally come to the conclusion after my 38th play through of Dragon Age: Origins & Dragon Age 2 that I'm really looking forward to the Keep, I think I have most of my play throughs memorized by now.

 

I use dial-up to connect to the internet, ever try to play WoW with Dial-up it's not even bearable when people are around, but Comcast and AT&T say that my area won't see upgrades for at least 10 more years. Best we can get is Satellite for $200 a month or high Speed Dial-up yep it's 2014.

 

That's how it is for where I live, but I was able to get Hughes Net for around $60/month, it sucks majorly for consoles though so in the spirit of this topic..its not that much help.  You can download stuff like patches and everything, it just takes FOREVER

[Chanda]

When I was on dial-up (back in the mid-90's and early 2000's) there was no way I could play a graphic online game like WoW. I could play MUDs, though, so that's what I did. And single-player games, which back then, didn't really need an internet connection. Now it seems like everything needs an internet connection.

[AlexJK]

... an option that has been available in both previous Dragon Age sequels which would be reasonable to expect in the next game.

Yes both sequels (presumably Awakening and DA2?) supported offline imports. And in both cases, that option came with bugs, missing flags, and broken plot points (sacrificed Wardens in Awakening, for example). Bioware could have provided the same option, with the same effectively unfixable bugs for DAI, locking out cross-platform players in the process, along with anyone who had lost their savegames, and denying new players the option to create a world state.

 

Instead, they chose not to continue with that particular method of importing, and instead created a solution allowing for cross-platform, validated, persistent world-state imports, for new and old players alike, supporting the next DA game along with media that's yet to exist in the DA series. Yes, this solution locks out players who either can't or won't connect their gaming machines to the internet (though "won't", as mentioned, is not Bioware's problem), but when you consider everything the Keep offers which simply would not have been possible under the old system, it's clear that the old method was untenable.

 

As for an offline option for the Keep itself - as mentioned, that comes down to resources (cost and time). It's obviously not a five-minute job, so the question has to be asked - does this offer enough value to the player base to justify doing it, and absorbing the additional support requirements for that process, now and in the future? Bioware have mentioned a few times that they're still looking into it, so presumably it hasn't (yet) been ruled out. Maybe something will be arranged, and if so that's great - an extra option for those players who need it, and irrelevant for those who don't (like the bunnies).

[N7_5P3CTR3]

I'm so looking forward to the Keep! I'm finally gonna get to see what happens when you take the evil choices! Never could manage it, the worst I could pull off was a hard-ass. I'm also loving the fact that the Keep is going to allow us to access our games on and across multiply platforms which means I can still play when I'm house sitting for my parents and what not.

[Eralrik]

I have a question and a concern about the keep.

 

While I'm highly motivated waiting for the Keep something has been nagging at the back of my mind, what happens say 2 years down the line or even 4 years and they pull The Keep down or shut down the cloud how do we import our saves.

 

I mean it's been several years since DA:O released and I still play it as if it was a first time and just finished my 38th run can we hope that Bioware will continue to support the keep in the future or will we be doomed to playing new games without imports from the keep.

 

I know I'm speculating my concerns for future play throughs as Bioware makes dang fine games, but still the concern remains.

[ElitePinecone]

That is a question for four years down the line. 

 

Bioware probably have no idea what their plans are for then - the priority is getting DA:I and the Keep working.

 

(Though it's interesting to note that devs have talked about The Keep being used in any sequels, too.)

[Warden_of_all]

That is a question for four years down the line. 

 

Bioware probably have no idea what their plans are for then - the priority is getting DA:I and the Keep working.

 

(Though it's interesting to note that devs have talked about The Keep being used in any sequels, too.)

Bioware has stated that the keep is for all games in the dragon age series from inquisition on, so it will be around as long as they keep making them.

[MrMrPendragon]

Bioware has stated that the keep is for all games in the dragon age series from inquisition on, so it will be around as long as they keep making them.

Actually the concern is if the Keep would still be there even if the series is done.

 

Just because the series is done, doesn't mean people still won't import or make new world states. I could replay the games using different variables/choices, but if the Keep isn't there anymore, then what happens?

 

That topic is, I think, what Eralrik is trying to bring up.

[Warden_of_all]

Actually the concern is if the Keep would still be there even if the series is done.

 

Just because the series is done, doesn't mean people still won't import or make new world states. I could replay the games using different variables/choices, but if the Keep isn't there anymore, then what happens?

 

That topic is, I think, what Eralrik is trying to bring up.

At which point I am sure they will create a finished offline version for people to use. I don't see bioware leaving us(their devoted fans) high and dry.

[nightscrawl]

That is a question for four years down the line. 

 

Bioware probably have no idea what their plans are for then - the priority is getting DA:I and the Keep working.

 

Well sure. But if they don't build in some future-proofing at the start, the likelihood decreases as the years go by that they will add it later on. As I said in a previous post, the development cycle will eventually come to an end on DAI. Maybe they will be working on Dragon Age 4 or 5, but that doesn't mean that they will then go ahead and patch DAI with the ability to take offline imports (via USB or other method). There are still problems in DA2 that haven't been patched, and probably never will be.

 

The reason this is a concern is because of the increased reliance on internet-only services that are NOT guaranteed to be around. Of course we shouldn't all be panicking about this right now. They are still working on DAI and the Keep, but it IS something that we as players and the developers should think about, eventually.

[nightscrawl]

At which point I am sure they will create a finished offline version for people to use. I don't see bioware leaving us(their devoted fans) high and dry.

 

DA2 still has bugs, including a very serious, game breaking one with the Exiled Prince DLC (see sig) that was introduced with patch 1.04 that has never been fixed. I only install 1.03 on my PC, and thankfully I'm able to use mods to fix a couple of the issues that 1.04 would have fixed for me (warrior 2h sunder bug), but I can't use.

 

Note that I don't really blame Bioware for this. I understand that the development cycle ends and devs have to move onto other projects. But let's not act like everything is perfect with their previous releases when that isn't the case. IMO the DAO players were extremely fortunate to get patch 1.05 that finally fixed all of the DLC authorization problems.

[Thandal N'Lyman]

I have a question and a concern about the keep.

<snip>

I mean it's been several years since DA:O released and I still play it as if it was a first time and just finished my 38th run can we hope that Bioware will continue to support the keep in the future or will we be doomed to playing new games without imports from the keep.

<snip>

 

If you're on your 38th run (as am I    )  do you really care what choices you made in any previous one?

If after a couple-of-dozen times through the game I were left with only the pre-installed "default set" of world states from which to choose, I think I'd be alright! 

[nightscrawl]

If you're on your 38th run (as am I    )  do you really care what choices you made in any previous one?

If after a couple-of-dozen times through the game I were left with only the pre-installed "default set" of world states from which to choose, I think I'd be alright! 

 

I think it's more about seeing the results of your actions in a succeeding game, rather than some default state that you had no input in.

[Warden_of_all]

DA2 still has bugs, including a very serious, game breaking one with the Exiled Prince DLC (see sig) that was introduced with patch 1.04 that has never been fixed. I only install 1.03 on my PC, and thankfully I'm able to use mods to fix a couple of the issues that 1.04 would have fixed for me (warrior 2h sunder bug), but I can't use.

 

Note that I don't really blame Bioware for this. I understand that the development cycle ends and devs have to move onto other projects. But let's not act like everything is perfect with their previous releases when that isn't the case. IMO the DAO players were extremely fortunate to get patch 1.05 that finally fixed all of the DLC authorization problems.

They don't have to change the game. I'm talking about the keep. It's totaly different. As they come out with more game the keep will still be used. Which means it can be used for DA:I as well as the new game. Later on when the series concludes with, i don't know Dragon age 7 , 10 whatever. They can finalize the Keep and create an offline version that supports all the games. All the coding will be complete and all they will have to do is put it into an app for the pc. Hopefully they will listen to the usb flash drive option now so this will be easier for them later on because the games will be setup for it later when this happens.The app saves a file the same as the downloaded file for the usb. That way one app works with all systems.

[Devtek]

They don't have to change the game. I'm talking about the keep. It's totaly different. As they come out with more game the keep will still be used. Which means it can be used for DA:I as well as the new game. Later on when the series concludes with, i don't know Dragon age 7 , 10 whatever. They can finalize the Keep and create an offline version that supports all the games. All the coding will be complete and all they will have to do is put it into an app for the pc. Hopefully they will listen to the usb flash drive option now so this will be easier for them later on because the games will be setup for it later when this happens.The app saves a file the same as the downloaded file for the usb. That way one app works with all systems.

 

They are not totally different if they are meant to interact with each other. Even if they do eventually create an offline option (of which I am in favour) then DAI will have to have the ability to read whatever output the offline keep provides which it won't unless they specifically spend resources to create two different methods of importing a world state; Now or in the future through a patch (thus changing the game). Also the USB option for consoles is not feasible b/c of console restrictions.

[Whatnow12012]

DK must have an OFFLINE Option in other words 56k Dial Options, or the USB Flash Drive deal. While traditional Direct Import dosent work for Inquisition Bioware needs to make up for this & make the DK APP available for all.

 

Being a Free App, & also be able to use the APP despite which internet connections we own, being DSL, Broadband, Wi Fi it would be unfair to cancel out 56k Dial Upers who use 56k Dial Up. I am not the only person who still must rely on 56k.

 

Many of my Friends also have Dial Up due to the locations we live in. We live away from Towns & Cities we also can not afford stuff like Satellite Internet due to the fact you have to buy the equipment + consoles do not work well on Hughes Net or Excede.

 

But right now I don't really care. I done made up my mind & I will play Inquisition on DEFAULT when I get the game in October. I suppose Inquisition will also have Pre-Selection History Choices that would be similar towards Dragon Age 2 did. Hopefully Inquisition will have more Options to choose from than DA 2 did with only 3 DEFAULT Choices such as Elf, Drawf and the Other one.

 

Mainly I just wanna play Inquisition straight out of the Box when I get it on 10-7 mainly to see the new Deals in the game & play around with the CAC system.

 

I am also going to practice on Inquisition before I decide what to do regarding the DK. I will perfect Inquisition then after I am good at the main Game I will decide on what to do about using the DK.

 

But I will take my PS3 over to my Relatives & do the Deluxe DLC Content. If the DK isn't to Aggervating maybe I can figure a way to do the DK.

 

I am hoping what I could do is use the DK on my Laptop at Home then take PS3 to my Relatives then my PS3 will Import the Keep's World State off the DK Site.

 

But the Question remains could I do that on my Laptop since Laptop is Dial Up while the PS3 is not.

[aaarcher86]

It's been explained to you at least 22 times that you can do that. If you can come here and post, you can use the Keep.

[Warden_of_all]

DK must have an OFFLINE Option in other words 56k Dial Options, or the USB Flash Drive deal. While traditional Direct Import dosent work for Inquisition Bioware needs to make up for this & make the DK APP available for all.

 

Being a Free App, & also be able to use the APP despite which internet connections we own, being DSL, Broadband, Wi Fi it would be unfair to cancel out 56k Dial Upers who use 56k Dial Up. I am not the only person who still must rely on 56k.

 

Many of my Friends also have Dial Up due to the locations we live in. We live away from Towns & Cities we also can not afford stuff like Satellite Internet due to the fact you have to buy the equipment + consoles do not work well on Hughes Net or Excede.

 

But right now I don't really care. I done made up my mind & I will play Inquisition on DEFAULT when I get the game in October. I suppose Inquisition will also have Pre-Selection History Choices that would be similar towards Dragon Age 2 did. Hopefully Inquisition will have more Options to choose from than DA 2 did with only 3 DEFAULT Choices such as Elf, Drawf and the Other one.

 

Mainly I just wanna play Inquisition straight out of the Box when I get it on 10-7 mainly to see the new Deals in the game & play around with the CAC system.

 

I am also going to practice on Inquisition before I decide what to do regarding the DK. I will perfect Inquisition then after I am good at the main Game I will decide on what to do about using the DK.

 

But I will take my PS3 over to my Relatives & do the Deluxe DLC Content. If the DK isn't to Aggervating maybe I can figure a way to do the DK.

 

I am hoping what I could do is use the DK on my Laptop at Home then take PS3 to my Relatives then my PS3 will Import the Keep's World State off the DK Site.

 

But the Question remains could I do that on my Laptop since Laptop is Dial Up while the PS3 is not.

We've given you many options to fix the 56k dialup problem. Your ps3 can use 56k dial up by setting up a small network and sharing your laptops connection.

[Amy326]

Really, really hoping I get chosen for this next round of beta testers! Been waiting for 4 months for the Keep! Heard there may be another choosing around E3 in June, hoping this is or will be verified soon.

[Whatnow12012]

Don't really care since Inquisition is still 6 Months away & I am currently playing other games

 

PS Vita - Toukiden Age of Demons

PS Vita - YS Memories of Celceta LVL 48 End Game FInal Boss

PS3 - Drakengard 3

PS3 - Ragnarok Odyssey Ace

 

Next

8-16

 

PS3 - Diablo 3 Ultimate

PS3 Tales of Xillia 2

PS Vita - Akiba Strip

 

October

Dragon Age Inquisition PS3 Deluxe

WWE 2K15

Middle Earth - Shadows of Mordor

 

Transformers Rise of the Dark Spark Depends on Reviews & Forum Feedback comes this Summer.

 

AOE Marks my 30th Year of Transformers 1984 - 2014

[Whatnow12012]

I also have been waiting on Beta Test on DK, I been chosen on other games but never for a Bioware game, wondering how Beta Testing works & wonder if I have to go there to Test the DK system.

 

Or do Beta Testers do this From Home on Laptops & PCs don't really know the process of Beta Testing, I also assume you would have to sign No Disclosure Agreement so you will not Blab about the DK System & how it will work.

 

If we have to go to Bioware HQ that would mean a Trip to Canada never been there.

[Stormy]

I also have been waiting on Beta Test on DK, I been chosen on other games but never for a Bioware game, wondering how Beta Testing works & wonder if I have to go there to Test the DK system.

 

Or do Beta Testers do this From Home on Laptops & PCs don't really know the process of Beta Testing, I also assume you would have to sign No Disclosure Agreement so you will not Blab about the DK System & how it will work.

 

If we have to go to Bioware HQ that would mean a Trip to Canada never been there.

 

I've been wondering the same thing myself!  Toronto, right?  Or Quebec?  I speak French!

[kinderschlager]

any new updates on this?

[Devtek]

I've been wondering the same thing myself!  Toronto, right?  Or Quebec?  I speak French!

 

It is a website, all you would do is sign in, would not need to be physically present to do that. Not sure the specific studio doing Keep but I assume Edmonton where DAI is being developed mainly.

 

any new updates on this?

Not really no, just people (not bioware) talking about wanting an offline solution mostly.

[Whatnow12012]

Always wondered what is a Beta Tester & rather or not Testers go to their HQ to Test these games,

 

1. Do we go to Bioware HQ in Canada

 

2. Would we have to pay for the Trip or is this all Furnished by Bioware HQ

 

3. How Long would we Be Beta Testing the DK System

 

4. Would we need to sign a NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT

 

5. Would we get to meet the Big Wigs over Inquisition Laidaw & the other guys would be AWESOME

 

Heck I would do this for FREE, I would also work on Games for FREE, or do VA FOR FREE. I think it would be an Honor to work on a Videogame or a Movie, Makes me Made & Angry listening to Big Wigs complain for something I would do for FREE.

 

Be Awesome to Work on a Game instead of Playing the Game offering INPUT & FEEDBACK SUGGESTIONS.

 

I can be really creative, I think it would be the MOST AWESOME JOB IN THE WORLD, Imagine Working in the Bioware HQ on awesome Projects such as Inquisition, Mass Effect 4, or ME Trilogy HD.

 

I WOULD PASS OUT FROM EXCITEMENT.