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[SofaJockey]

Sebastian.

I truly don't care what he does and when Anders is spared he leaves.
(good point. Edits post)

 

I bet this kind of thing is why the devs will be testing the Keep.  A lot...!

[iheartbob]

SofaJockey that was a great starting list.

 

I can remember all my big/main choices for my characters, but I can't really remember the smaller side quest ones so I think I may actually try checking out the last save points for my characters and reading their journal points to get an idea.

[Little Princess Peach]

even if you foget just open up the toolset and read the information on the save I just did it this morning ^^

[Jagaro]

even if you foget just open up the toolset and read the information on the save I just did it this morning ^^

How do I do that exactly?

[Mirdarion]

How do I do that exactly?

 

Download Gibbed's Savegame Generator and go through all the choices you're interested in. Those are all the choices of Origins, The Awakening and the DLCs. At least for the first game...

[movieguyabw]

Sebastian always sides with you,the only difference is post-game if Anders was spared(even if killed later on Templars side) than Sebastian would leave your party.
The events in the DLC/s happen/ed in the sequel/s regardless if you have or don't have the DLC/s in your save.

 

I thought he left the party after choosing to spare Anders.  0o  At least, I don't remember him being an option after that point, or him showing up in any of the scenes involving the rest of your party.

 

I could be mistaken though, as I didn't really care too much for Sebastian myself.  (I don't think he was a bad character - he just wasn't my favorite)  So I never brought him with me, anyway.

[Mirdarion]

I thought he left the party after choosing to spare Anders.  0o  At least, I don't remember him being an option after that point, or him showing up in any of the scenes involving the rest of your party.

 

I could be mistaken though, as I didn't really care too much for Sebastian myself.  (I don't think he was a bad character - he just wasn't my favorite)  So I never brought him with me, anyway.

 

He swears to bring the wrath of Starkhaven down on Kirkwall if you choose to spare Anders (and consequently leaves your party), as he is a deeply religious man who feels more than insulted by the murder of the Grand Cleric.

 

Kind of stupid if you ask me, but hey - I'm the guy that still folds his t-shirts exactly to DIN-A4 shape and gets angry over dust on his shoes...

[movieguyabw]

Yeah, that's what I thought happened.  My point was that he doesn't side with you if Anders is spared, and it's not some one off thing that's mentioned in the epilogue, that Sebastian leaves for Starkhaven, unlike the person I was quoting suggested. 

[Connor Dawson]

i think we can all agree sebastian is a ****** nutcase

[Estelindis]

i think we can all agree sebastian is a ****** nutcase

 

One does not simply begin a statement about a Dragon Age character with "I think we can all agree," on the Bioware forums.

[VanillaSun]

Will the keep acknowledge the romance with Sebastian? One of my two main saves has a Fem Hawke that rivalmanced Sebastian, he vowed to form the strongest union the Free Marches have ever seen with the new viscount of Kirkwall (yup that's her). Could be really badass, hope they don't drop it.

[movieguyabw]

I don't see why they would neglect that, VanillaSun. 

 

As I've said a couple times, the one I'd really be concerned of is romancing a Leliana on a save where you destroyed the Sacred Ashes.  Technically it's possible; as if she's hardened and you have a high enough intimidate skill you can talk her out of becoming hostile when you destroy the ashes.  You take a 10 point influence hit, however (IIRC, if you dropped below 90 influence with a character, the romance ended) and she vows never to forgive you.  If you were at 100% influence, you don't lose enough to end the romance - however it's possible that was merely an oversight.

 

Romancing Sebastian was something that was very clearly intended - and I doubt they would retcon that out of existence.  Being that Hawke has gone missing after DA2, I don't think you'll see the "Strongest Union Ever" - but it's pretty clear that that was an outcome that was intended to be there. 

[AVPen]

Download Gibbed's Savegame Generator and go through all the choices you're interested in. Those are all the choices of Origins, The Awakening and the DLCs. At least for the first game...

That save editor creates the major choices from DAO, as they relate to and are imported into DA2 - there's always the possibility (and I'd say it's a good possibility) that the Keep with use decisions from DAO for DAI that were not previously imported into DA2.

[Devtek]

That save editor creates the major choices from DAO, as they relate to and are imported into DA2 - there's always the possibility (and I'd say it's a good possibility) that the Keep with use decisions from DAO for DAI that were not previously imported into DA2.

Seeing as there were only 18 choices that carried into DA2, and there are 300 in the keep I would say so.  Although they have said that all of the choices may not be reflected in the game but they are there to "future proof" the worldstate if they want to go back to a topic later i think.

[Sanunes]

Seeing as there were only 18 choices that carried into DA2, and there are 300 in the keep I would say so.  Although they have said that all of the choices may not be reflected in the game but they are there to "future proof" the worldstate if they want to go back to a topic later i think.

 

I don't think there are going to be 300 choices in The Keep exactly, but 300 states.  So each of the four characters you could romance in Dragon Age 2 would count as a different state and leave 296 more to go.  Of course I am trying to keep my expectations low so I can't get disappointed when it doesn't meet my expectations.

 

With the 18 that carried over to Dragon Age 2 from Origins some of them had three different outcomes so it might really work out to be 40 to 50 states from Dragon Age Origins that carried to Dragon Age 2.

[Devtek]

I don't think there are going to be 300 choices in The Keep exactly, but 300 states.  So each of the four characters you could romance in Dragon Age 2 would count as a different state and leave 296 more to go.  Of course I am trying to keep my expectations low so I can't get disappointed when it doesn't meet my expectations.

 

With the 18 that carried over to Dragon Age 2 from Origins some of them had three different outcomes so it might really work out to be 40 to 50 states from Dragon Age Origins that carried to Dragon Age 2.

 

Wording might be a bit off I guess, we just need more info /winkwinknudgenudge Even if you counted each option of every choice as a "state", that is still more than what was DAO -> DA2.

[Sanunes]

Wording might be a bit off I guess, we just need more info /winkwinknudgenudge Even if you counted each option of every choice as a "state", that is still more than what was DAO -> DA2.

 

You could be right as well with how you thought, I just don't want to expect something and then not have it there.  I try to under expect so I can be pleasantly surprised when its more then I envisioned.

[Kantr]

I hope we get some more invites this week.

[New Kid]

That's why you need a spreadsheet! (It seemed crazy when I made it, but now I'm glad I did.)

 

If you still have the save files, most decisions will probably be recorded in your journal.

 

 

 

 

Given that I'm a very ... enthused ... fan and only have nine completed runs of Origins (two of which are do-overs, so only seven different Wardens) I can only imagine it's a tiny number. There are a few people on the forums who have played it fifteen or twenty times, but they're a minority of a minority.

A spread sheet, eh?... I like it 

[ArtemisMoons]

Time to do the invite dance. Put on your sad panda masks and hope that they invite us in. xD

[Burricho]

Time to do the invite dance. Put on your sad panda masks and hope that they invite us in. xD

Are invites going out?????

[Heimdall]

Are invites going out?????

Hopefully

[Kantr]

nothing announced so far

[Reznore57]

I'm happy about the keep but no direct save import at all , kind of suck.

I had a main playthrough in DAO/DAA/DA2 ...the DAO one is kind of old , I remember the big decision but not the small ones.

Can't remember if I harden Leliana or not for example.Can't remember if I managed to save everyone at redcliffe village , can't remember who I've recruited for the militia ...etc...

 

It doesn't really feel like I'm going to import my playthrough more I will try to piece back together a warden I don't remember everything about.

On the other hand I'm happy I only had two main wardens.I think I'll go crazy if I had 10 playthrough or something.

 

On the bright side the keep sounds nice ,and my DA2 saves were a mess with the DLCs.

[tipper111]

I'm happy about the keep but no direct save import at all , kind of suck.
I had a main playthrough in DAO/DAA/DA2 ...the DAO one is kind of old , I remember the big decision but not the small ones.
Can't remember if I harden Leliana or not for example.Can't remember if I managed to save everyone at redcliffe village , can't remember who I've recruited for the militia ...etc...

It doesn't really feel like I'm going to import my playthrough more I will try to piece back together a warden I don't remember everything about.
On the other hand I'm happy I only had two main wardens.I think I'll go crazy if I had 10 playthrough or something.

On the bright side the keep sounds nice ,and my DA2 saves were a mess with the DLCs.

and that's also a good thing so you can create world states for later playthroughs with complete opposite decisions to see the differences