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dsl08002

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What im slightly worried about is that even if the keep will work brilliantly and all choices are considered is that the importing decisions may not follow the storyline smoothly. Like  the default settings that you have is more fitting to the storyline that bioware intended and they insert the importing decisions, that brings only different dialouge options. As in mass effect 3 you can import different choices and origins, but you could tell that the game was focused to much on the default settings and it just felt strange and disconnected..... but never mind.

 

An metaphorical speaking: "if you put two different looking puzzle pieces together they might fit, but the entire Picture might be rubbish"  but that might be rubbish of course :)  



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Seeing as they announced that the "default" setting treats the past games as if everyone who could have died *did* die, any of the storylines that could've been completed were completed, and their announcements that they're much more open with locking players out of content this time around;  I highly doubt that's the case, dsl08002.  ;)



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Yeah, the stuff from the Keep will manifest itself in content that the "default" worldstate will probably never even see.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if a Keep worldstate has more content than the default one, because some quests might only trigger if certain characters are alive, or if certain choices were made - just like DA2. It won't be hours and hours, but there are a lot of things already that they've said will make a reappearance.

 

It's a different situation to ME3, where the potential for every squadmate to die in the ME2 Suicide Mission really backed them into a corner in terms of making the content feel unique. 



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Yeah, the stuff from the Keep will manifest itself in content that the "default" worldstate will probably never even see.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if a Keep worldstate has more content than the default one, because some quests might only trigger if certain characters are alive, or if certain choices were made - just like DA2. It won't be hours and hours, but there are a lot of things already that they've said will make a reappearance.

 

It's a different situation to ME3, where the potential for every squadmate to die in the ME2 Suicide Mission really backed them into a corner in terms of making the content feel unique. 

 

I agree and with Mass Effect 3 aside from the incomplete feeling I got from the original ending, my biggest issue is how the old squads were brought back.  Now I have no problem with returning characters, but I felt that it hurt the flow of the game for having cameos from our previous squadmembers and if some were to return quality is better then quantity.

 

With Dragon Age, I doubt it will be a lot of divergence based on previous games because you can't count on everyone buying the previous games or even finishing them, so just to acknowledge those choices would be what I expect, along the lines of what happens with Conrad Verner in Mass Effect 3.



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One thing that has never been clear to me, can I create a single world state for multiple playthroughs, or will I need to go through the process of selecting the exact same choices each playthrough that I plan on using a pqrticular world state?

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One thing that has never been clear to me, can I create a single world state for multiple playthroughs, or will I need to go through the process of selecting the exact same choices each playthrough that I plan on using a pqrticular world state?

 

You can create one world state and import it to multiple playthroughs.


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You can create one world state and import it to multiple playthroughs.


I think what Capiva meant is that after I import a world state in the game, I can use it to create different playthroughs without connecting again online to the Keep. I'm not sure the former is what you meant (in this case I apologize).

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Will it matter what class you choose for your Warden/Hawke using The Keep?  Or, will you even be able to make these decisions?  The reason I ask it that I imported my DAO decisions into my Hawkes kind of marrying classes.  For Instance, I imported my DOA mage play through twice into DA2, once with a pro-templar mage and once with a pro-mage mage.  I am wondering if the keep is detailed enough to shape the world state to account for these nuances?



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Will it matter what class you choose for your Warden/Hawke using The Keep?  Or, will you even be able to make these decisions?  The reason I ask it that I imported my DAO decisions into my Hawkes kind of marrying classes.  For Instance, I imported my DOA mage play through twice into DA2, once with a pro-templar mage and once with a pro-mage mage.  I am wondering if the keep is detailed enough to shape the world state to account for these nuances?

We've been told there are 300 decision points in the Keep, given that class (At least whether mage or not) is pretty important to the character, I'd say that decision probably made it in.



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For Hawke it'll definitely matter, since that chooses which sibling dies.  I don't know if the Warden's class will matter very much though.



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We've been told there are 300 decision points in the Keep, given that class (At least whether mage or not) is pretty important to the character, I'd say that decision probably made it in.

That would be nice.  I'd like to see how these types of decisions will play out.  With the extra time we've been given I think I'll map out the playthroughs i hav in DAO and DA2 so it will be easier for me to enter them into The Keep.



#4162
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You can create one world state and import it to multiple playthroughs.

 

Thanks for the answer =)

 

I think what Capiva meant is that after I import a world state in the game, I can use it to create different playthroughs without connecting again online to the Keep. I'm not sure the former is what you meant (in this case I apologize).

 

Thanks for taking the time to try and clarify my question King but it was not precisely what I wanted to know, but it does adds to the question. After synchronising with the Keep can I have offline access to all my previously created world states? Not that being offline will be an issue but the internet connection here on Brazil has the ocasional FAIL, it would be good to know if I can still import a previously created world state if one of these days comes around.

 

I thank again for the attention and apologize if it has already been asked.


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Thanks for the answer =)

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to try and clarify my question King but it was not precisely what I wanted to know, but it does adds to the question. After synchronising with the Keep can I have offline access to all my previously created world states? Not that being offline will be an issue but the internet connection here on Brazil has the ocasional FAIL, it would be good to know if I can still import a previously created world state if one of these days comes around.

 

I thank again for the attention and apologize if it has already been asked.

 

No you can't import a Keep state while offline.  If you were really worried about not having internet access "at that very moment" you wanted to play a  different world state import I would suggest setting up a few of your world states (if you have a few) then create your inquisitors to go along with them all at once then just play whatever game you want at the time. Since you can have multiple inquisitor saves on your machine at the same time.


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Thanks for the answer =)

 

 

Thanks for taking the time to try and clarify my question King but it was not precisely what I wanted to know, but it does adds to the question. After synchronising with the Keep can I have offline access to all my previously created world states? Not that being offline will be an issue but the internet connection here on Brazil has the ocasional FAIL, it would be good to know if I can still import a previously created world state if one of these days comes around.

 

I thank again for the attention and apologize if it has already been asked.

What Devtek said, remember that you only need to be online when you first start up a playthrough, not all the time.


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#4165
CapivaRasgor

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No you can't import a Keep state while offline.  If you were really worried about not having internet access "at that very moment" you wanted to play a  different world state import I would suggest setting up a few of your world states (if you have a few) then create your inquisitors to go along with them all at once then just play whatever game you want at the time. Since you can have multiple inquisitor saves on your machine at the same time.

 

What Devtek said, remember that you only need to be online when you first start up a playthrough, not all the time.

 

Yes yes.. it is as I suspected. But again, the chances of me not being online while playing are close to zero since I require internet connection to go through Origin's DRM or to authenticate DLC. But still good to know, if I'm forced to be offline I'll just stick to ongoing playthroughs.



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Maybe the game itself will store all your worldstates created from the keep allowing you to pick when you start anew.



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Maybe the game itself will store all your worldstates created from the keep allowing you to pick when you start anew.

I recall asking about that at one point, I can't remember if I got an answer or what it was at this point.  I seem to remember someone saying that the Keep doesn't create a file and that would be a problem for that idea *shrug*



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So if we create all of our Worldstates is it a given the we will have to log on to the keep everytime and choose a WS and download it or what.

 

And given EAs frequent Server Issues if there isnt a other solution then the Keep might be irrelevant because even if it is perfect paired with crap servers no good will come.



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You don't download an actual file. If you are concerned about the up time of the Keep just create multiple new games out of the multiple world states you want as soon as you can.

I honestly don't see the concern. If EA is able to keep this site running they should be able to keep the Keep online as well. The Keep isn't really comparable with what happened with Sim City. Heck, I don't remember having experienced issues with my one or two months playing SWTOR.

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So if we create all of our Worldstates is it a given the we will have to log on to the keep everytime and choose a WS and download it or what.

 

And given EAs frequent Server Issues if there isnt a other solution then the Keep might be irrelevant because even if it is perfect paired with crap servers no good will come.

 

Yes if you want to start a new character you will have to go to the keep and activate the worldstate for that character

 

There's no servers they will have it tied to, it's not a multiplayer type thing.  Like dutch_gamer pointed out, if they can keep BSN running non-stop then they can keep the Keep the running non-stop, because that's all it is, just a website.



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I wonder when B-Ware will give us the release date for the Keep.

 

I have a bad feeling that if B-Ware doesnt open The Keep up sooner than waiting 1 month before the game drops in Oct. I am worried the barrage of fans might crash it.

 

Maybe I am wrong but who knows. <_<



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I'm not sure if this has been answered yet.

But how does Inquisition saves work with the Keep.

Do the keep get updated with whatever we save in game , or the plan is again at the end ,to recreate a save ?

Or nothing is planned yet ?

I suppose DLCs will have no problems with direct import.

I was wondering about future games , if there's a plan.



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Your saves in the game won't get sent to the keep, someone said before that Sony and Microsoft won't allow items to go from console to 3rd party places.



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Your saves in the game won't get sent to the keep, someone said before that Sony and Microsoft won't allow items to go from console to 3rd party places.

 

Oh?So there's a chance if there's another game ,we may have again no direct import and have to recreate stuff?...

Just to know if I'll have to start writing things down when I play.



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Oh?So there's a chance if there's another game ,we may have again no direct import and have to recreate stuff?...

Just to know if I'll have to start writing things down when I play.

 

Probably not, it's going to be the Keep from now on, which means each game new questions/choices will most likely be added to reflect the past game.  Spreadsheets wouldn't be a bad idea maybe..