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[The Sarendoctrinator]

devSin wrote...

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

I'm curious, can anyone tell us if there will be more than one "default" to choose from like in DA2 (I think there were three options) for people who can't import their saves? It would at least make some variety in the world for multiple playthroughs.

David said there's only one default this time, though I don't know if that's the official answer yet.

Well, then I'll have to hope it uses at least some of the choices I want to see.

[Monochrome Wench]

Just cause it needs an internet connection, doesn't mean its DRM. Its only DRM if requires the use of a CDKey to access (this includes if it can only be used by Origin accounts that have DAI registered)

Modifié par Monochrome Wench, 29 août 2013 - 04:26 .

[Fast Jimmy]

In Exile wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...
WOW. Thanks for pointing that out to me. My comment looks like I am some type of deviant.

On the bright side, at least you called it a save import? 

Keeping each other honest! And possibly within the legal and ethical requirements of the BSN Guidelines.

Who knew making fun of a Twitter typo would have so much karma?

[Icinix]

Monochrome Wench wrote...

Just cause it needs an internet connection, doesn't mean its DRM. Its only DRM if requires the use of a CDKey to access (this includes if it can only be used by Origin accounts that have DAI registered)

No, its not DRM, but it is a bit on the uncool side if its the only option for importing save games.

[GithCheater]

I just signed up, but limited my treatise to 499 characters so as not to excessively bore Bioware employees.

Modifié par GithCheater, 29 août 2013 - 04:43 .

[DarthSliver]

Does the Keep make it pointless to play through the previous Dragon Age titles if all we really want out of them is to create different worlds to see different outcomes in DAI?

[Fast Jimmy]

DarthSliver wrote...

Does the Keep make it pointless to play through the previous Dragon Age titles if all we really want out of them is to create different worlds to see different outcomes in DAI?

If that's all you want, then I'd say it would make such playthroughs pointless, based on what we know.

Now, if you want to play again to see the content of those choices in those games (for instance, to see the different epilogue slides in DA:O), then you may want to still replay. But if you are going through another run of the game to "set your perfect set of choices," then that won't be neccessary.


Again... from what we've been told so far.

[Jilinna]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

I'm lazy, and it just looks like it is a genesis thing.

I'm on PC, can I just import my pc saves, or must I do this?

You must do this or accept the default. It has been confirmed.


That being said, there is talk of them trying to import your saves directly into The Dragon Keep, which you can then review and modify if needed. You would then load the file created in The Keep into your game. But no direct file loading from your old save directly into the game.

That makes me a bit disappointed. Considering I have 6 Wardens and 6 Hawkes completed, completing a 7th Warden atm. I do hope they are able to directly import your saves into the Dragon Keep. Chances are I won't be able to remember all the choices I made through all those playthroughs. Import feature is a big thing for me, its the reason I have so many different characters. I want to experience everything the Dragon Age world has to offer and so multiple characters help me achieve that.

I signed up for the beta. I am really hoping they will deliver on allowing us to import our saves directly into the Dragon Age Keep and  being able to tweak the flags from there. Otherwise I will have a lot of work on my hands recreating all those Wardens and Hawkes lol.

Overall I like the concept. This will hopefully solve issues with broken flags and allow for a smoother import into DA:I. I would like an import for my saves into Dragon Age keep to be available so that I don't have to recreate everything and I will be golden!

[MerinTB]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

I'm lazy, and it just looks like it is a genesis thing.

I'm on PC, can I just import my pc saves, or must I do this?

You must do this or accept the default. It has been confirmed.

That being said, there is talk of them trying to import your saves directly into The Dragon Keep, which you can then review and modify if needed. You would then load the file created in The Keep into your game. But no direct file loading from your old save directly into the game.

Okay, that's NOT entirely true unless I've missed something in the last few hours.

1 - Dragon Keep sounds like it will take in your save imports regardless of original platform, convert them, then export them into DA:I for your given platform for the new game whether it is a different one from the previous games you played or not.  Unless they have clarified this is still in the works or a faint possibility, all they've said has pointed to Dragon Keep being the converter - like a program to read .doc and covert it to .rtf or some such.
2 - They are still looking into direct save imports for what they can.  I'm assuming this is only going to be likely for same platform transfers (360 to 360, PC to PC, PS3 to PS3, but not 360 to XOne, not PC to PS4, not PS3 to X360) and the likelihood of it happening is probably highest for PC.
3 - I don't think it's been set in stone that there will be ONE default without Dragon Keep.  DA2 had 3 options, where have they said that DA:I wouldn't follow suit?

Dragon Keep largely exists, I would wager, because of the Next Gen consoles mostly, and to some extent due to switching to Frostbite.

Long story short, though, the game will be out for a month tops before modders will have other ways for you to do save imports, especially on the PC but likely for the consoles as well using USB drives, so I think everyone who's so upset about the word "cloud" being used should take a deep breath, wait for the full information of what Dragon Keep really is to be released...

and THEN panic.

Modifié par MerinTB, 29 août 2013 - 05:21 .

[Siona]

Something I hope hasn't been asked yet, but the announcement kinda made it sound like you'd be able to recreate your Warden and/or Hawke's features? Or did I read that wrong.

[clone wars]

will this be on xbox and ps3

[Nerys]

This sounds really interesting. I hope they pick me

[Fast Jimmy]

MerinTB wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

MarchWaltz wrote...

I'm lazy, and it just looks like it is a genesis thing.

I'm on PC, can I just import my pc saves, or must I do this?

You must do this or accept the default. It has been confirmed.

That being said, there is talk of them trying to import your saves directly into The Dragon Keep, which you can then review and modify if needed. You would then load the file created in The Keep into your game. But no direct file loading from your old save directly into the game.

Okay, that's NOT entirely true unless I've missed something in the last few hours.

1 - Dragon Keep sounds like it will take in your save imports regardless of original platform, convert them, then export them into DA:I for your given platform for the new game whether it is a different one from the previous games you played or not.  Unless they have clarified this is still in the works or a faint possibility, all they've said has pointed to Dragon Keep being the converter - like a program to read .doc and covert it to .rtf or some such.
2 - They are still looking into direct save imports for what they can.  I'm assuming this is only going to be likely for same platform transfers (360 to 360, PC to PC, PS3 to PS3, but not 360 to XOne, not PC to PS4, not PS3 to X360) and the likelihood of it happening is probably highest for PC.
3 - I don't think it's been set in stone that there will be ONE default without Dragon Keep.  DA2 had 3 options, where have they said that DA:I wouldn't follow suit?

Dragon Keep largely exists, I would wager, because of the Next Gen consoles mostly, and to some extent due to switching to Frostbite.

Long story short, though, the game will be out for a month tops before modders will have other ways for you to do save imports, especially on the PC but likely for the consoles as well using USB drives, so I think everyone who's so upset about the word "cloud" being used should take a deep breath, wait for the full information of what Dragon Keep really is to be released...

and THEN panic.

No. They are looking at ways to have you import your current saves into The Keep. They do not know yet if this will be possible. If this feature does pan out, they are still not accepting prior game import files without first going through The Keep.

From Mark Darrah's post on the website:

Even if you don’t go back and re-play the previous games, you can still establish that scenario as part of your world state, and import it at the start of a new DAI game to see the consequences of your actions.

What about actually importing your save games? We are continuing to investigate ways in which save files from previous games could be used to populate the initial world state of the Dragon Age Keep. We’ll provide more information on this in the months to come.

And from Allan's earlier post:

Allan Schumacher wrote...

we really aren't going to be able to import our saves between platforms and that 'The Keep' is their sole solution, they just don't want to say, "Hey guys, this is our final answer..." because they know a lot of people will crap themselves in fury irrationally even if there really is, fundamentally, no difference between importing the save files and selecting all the details of all the choices you made in previous games via The Keep.

Mark is talking about importing into the Keep, as it would expedite setting up the world state for your game to recognize. There aren't plans to directly import from save games into DAI. So in that sense, yes the Keep is our sole solution. It'd be really, really good for some people, especially those with a lot of characters, to be able to speed the process along by importing, which is what Mark is referring to with his investigation.

The key phrase here is "yes, the Keep is our sole solution."

EDIT: I'm looking for a link, but Gaider said fairly recently that the default canon of the comics is also going to be the default background for DA:I, a female Dalish elf who performed the U.S. 

Double EDIT: Okay, so here is a line from Joe, a developer for The Keep, from earlier on in this thread:

"I can answer your question about whether this is optional: Absolutely. 

You are in no way required to use the keep to create a state for your playthrough. You can use the default canon without any problems.

However, it really is quite nifty. You can for instance see the ripple effects of a change from DAO on the subsequent data."

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 29 août 2013 - 06:21 .

[TheExtreamH]

I hope there's also a way for us recreating our Wardens/Warden commanders and Hawks. For people upgrading to Next-Gen, Just in case you guys at BioWare plan some Sneaking cameo.

[Fredward]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

So I'll have to connect to the internet every time I want to start a new game?

There's a good chance that that may be the case. Would ultimately depend on how we end up delivering it, things like feedback and so forth.

Ugh. <_<

[ThePhoenixKing]

Okay, that's pretty cool. Hopefully it means that issues relating to romance arcs, as well as the fate of the Vigil will also be addressed. I didn't spend all that coin upgrading the fort just to lose it, after all.

[ThePhoenixKing]

Sorry, accidently double post.

Modifié par ThePhoenixKing, 29 août 2013 - 06:21 .

[Icinix]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

So I'll have to connect to the internet every time I want to start a new game?

There's a good chance that that may be the case. Would ultimately depend on how we end up delivering it, things like feedback and so forth.

Ugh. <_<

This irks me a bit too - but if we can create world states that act as a new game save game file, i'm hoping I can load up all my characters in one hit - and no need to access the keep again after that.

[Reznore57]

It's just going to be great the day the game is released and everyone is downloading their save files!
It probably wouldn't have been hard to create a downloadable save files from the Keep ...full internet storage of data is a bad idea.

[Jonathan Seagull]

devSin wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Over 9000 zorkmids

So basically, it's a conceptual win, as opposed to an actual win.

The five of us who did the US can rest easy, knowing that the Orlesian Warden we never actually played can be recognized now.

As one of those five (although really, I wouldn't think it's that uncommon) this could indeed be really great for me, depending on how it ultimately works.  It was a huge bummer, and somewhat awkward, to have to choose between respecting my canon Warden's sacrifice or respecting all of the other choices he made.  I chose to import him into Awakening, and have never played an Orlesian Warden-Commander, despite wanting to.

So if the Keep does actually allow us to, for example, set our Origins world state and then replay Awakening (in this case, with both an Orlesion WC and our other choices intact), that would be a huge slice of awesome.  If an Orlesian Warden-Commander can potentially become involved in the story, currently it might be a bit odd for me since I never actually "met" him.  I suppose it could be interesting in its own way to have a character who I'm not attached to in such a role.  But the idea of being able to play Awakening in isolation as the Orlesion WC so that I can get to know him, while keeping my canon unchanged otherwise, is very appealing.

Modifié par Jonathan Seagull, 29 août 2013 - 06:26 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Reznore57 wrote...

It's just going to be great the day the game is released and everyone is downloading their save files!
It probably wouldn't have been hard to create a downloadable save files from the Keep ...full internet storage of data is a bad idea.

Ha! So a little like Simcity meets ME3 Face Import Bug? 

Sounds dashing!

[LethesDeep]

Create worldstates from scratch? Don't have to worry about errors like Zevran or Leliana being alive after I slit their throats? Can get really detailed about the worldstate (I hope this means minor stuff like how many of Redcliffe's militia survived)? This sounds great! Except for that whole cloud thing...

I'm concerned about the long-term viability of this. Eventually the cloud servers this runs on will be shut down. When that happens (and it could happen a few years or a few decades after DA:I's launch) players will be stuck with the default history which - if ME2, 3 and DA2's options are anything to go by - will result in a decent chunk of content being locked because none of the options are compatible with it (example: "Hero of Ferelden" history in DA2 locks out 3 quests in Act 1 and makes it impossible to get a certain item from Alistair in Act 2; maybe more).

I'm sorry, I just don't see the point in making this an online deal. Keep lets us create worldstates from sratch. Why can't it just be a program like the SR4 Inauguration Station that lets us save the worldstates to our hard drives? Like I said before, this is a great idea; it's just the necessity for it to be online confuses the heck out of me.

[The Sarendoctrinator]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

I'm looking for a link, but Gaider said fairly recently that the default canon of the comics is also going to be the default background for DA:I, a female Dalish elf who performed the U.S. 

I read about that being the comics' canon, but for some reason didn't make the connection that it could also be the one used in DA:I. So much for my hopes that the default might end up similar to one of my own playthroughs. Sacrificing the Warden is the one ending I never choose.

[Fredward]

Icinix wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

So I'll have to connect to the internet every time I want to start a new game?

There's a good chance that that may be the case. Would ultimately depend on how we end up delivering it, things like feedback and so forth.

Ugh. <_<

This irks me a bit too - but if we can create world states that act as a new game save game file, i'm hoping I can load up all my characters in one hit - and no need to access the keep again after that.

While I absolutely ****ing hate the idea of having to connect my game to the internet for my decisions to carry over what really gets to me is the total first-worldness of this decision. Internet is not universal. It is not a basic human right. You actually do get oodles and oodles of people who can afford to buy games but not afford an internet connection. Decisions like this just smack of presumed privelige "Why is this such a big deal? Who doesn't have an internet connection these days?"

Don't preach inclusivity on one hand and exclude people on the other. Selective inclusivty is not a thing.

[Icinix]

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Foopydoopydoo wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

So I'll have to connect to the internet every time I want to start a new game?

There's a good chance that that may be the case. Would ultimately depend on how we end up delivering it, things like feedback and so forth.

Ugh. <_<

This irks me a bit too - but if we can create world states that act as a new game save game file, i'm hoping I can load up all my characters in one hit - and no need to access the keep again after that.

While I absolutely ****ing hate the idea of having to connect my game to the internet for my decisions to carry over what really gets to me is the total first-worldness of this decision. Internet is not universal. It is not a basic human right. You actually do get oodles and oodles of people who can afford to buy games but not afford an internet connection. Decisions like this just smack of presumed privelige "Why is this such a big deal? Who doesn't have an internet connection these days?"

Don't preach inclusivity on one hand and exclude people on the other. Selective inclusivty is not a thing.

Mate I'm with you 100%. I travel a lot and even 'glorious' DRM things like Steam make gaming a pain in the arse. I've also got a whole big argument that almost sounds rehearsed about gaming as art suddenly becoming a time limited carnival experience - LIMITED TIME ONLY.

Its why I pretty much throw money at every Kickstarter thing that says DRM free for the sake of it.