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[Kantr]

Did they not say they had plans to increase the number of world states. There's just under 3 months to the game release anyway, so anything can happen between then.

[Sanunes]

But that's exactly the reason why it shouldn't be a problem to provide more slots. People who will use more than one slot for DAI aren't many. And most of those new to the francise will probably use non of their slots, so there should be plenty of unused storage.

 

They know we want more slots and they already said, that it may change in the future. So I guess that, there will be 5 slots and when the game is out for half a year or so they can predict how much more is possible. And I doubt any of us will be through 5 playthroughs in less than 6 month.

 

What if they already calculated that into the equation they are going by, for I think no matter how high the limit is someone will find another reason to why they must have more then what is being offered. 

 

They have all kinds of metrics they are looking at for all we know they are expecting players to generate a lot of imports from Dragon Age Inquisition based on how many people started Dragon Age Origins with the different origins until they found one they liked for there really there are 36 different starting points for Dragon Age: Origins with Origin/Class/Gender option, slightly less with Inquisition with 24 with the same variables.  At the end of the day I much rather have a working Keep then extra save slots on launch day.

[aaarcher86]

I'm going to give Bioware the benefit of the doubt and assume there is some kind of technical reasoning for the 5 slots.

[Bellanaris88]

What if they already calculated that into the equation they are going by, for I think no matter how high the limit is someone will find another reason to why they must have more then what is being offered. 

 

They have all kinds of metrics they are looking at for all we know they are expecting players to generate a lot of imports from Dragon Age Inquisition based on how many people started Dragon Age Origins with the different origins until they found one they liked for there really there are 36 different starting points for Dragon Age: Origins with Origin/Class/Gender option, slightly less with Inquisition with 24 with the same variables.  At the end of the day I much rather have a working Keep then extra save slots on launch day.

 

They stated, that they want to increase it so I doubt we're at the possible limit yet. And of course we all want rather a working keep. If they can't manage that with more slots I wont complain!

Should the DAI progress be stored seperately from those world states, I don't care at all about only 5 slots, because deleting one, wont delete my DAI progress for future import.

 

And just by the way. There were 24 possible starting points in DA:O and there will be 22 possible starting points for DA:I

[Natarsi]

Well, the Keep certainly looks interesting. Just a bit disappointed I didn't get an invite so far, even thought I registered day one.
I think if I could fiddle around with the Keep at the moment and set up the three alternate scenarious I intend to start out with different characters, I'd be content and busy and wouldn't think 'still at least a month and probably a half until I can get started on the keep nevermind the time until Dragon Age:Inquisition'.

 

If only I could stop checking for news, most of which I don't actually want XD Well, maybe on the multiplayer and the keep, but game-wise I already know a lot of more than any Dragon Age game before.

 

In any case, I think I'm going to like the Keep a lot more than the comic-intros for Mass Effect. I hated that I was missing a lot of choices when I wanted to switch over from pc to console additionally to my pc game versions and didn't want to have to play me1 all over again.
Also... I like the visuals :3 Always did in those intros and story telling parts and probably always will

[aaarcher86]

When people applied doesn't matter.  Most of us probably applied the second it opened up.  They have had over 100,000 applications. 

 

In a month and a half we'll all be in.

[Natarsi]

@aarcher86: Hahahaha, yeah, that's true ;P Also... It might backfire and actually make it worse X.x

[aaarcher86]

Nah, it'll get the stress testing of the system out of the way before launch.  And it'll give us something to do for the final month while we wait for the game!

[riverbanks]

It's an inconvenience, but unless you're willing to donate the money to Bioware for everyone to get a sixth slot, then you're just going to have to suck it up, and pick a DAO playthrough that is "less important" than the others.

Dial down the hostility a bit - they have already said they are studying the case for adding more slots, so we're not talking about who is going to personally bank the costs of having more or less slots, we're discussing how many do we think works well enough. A lot of people here, on reddit, on tumblr, on twitter are talking about unwieldy numbers like ten, fifteen, twenty world states; what I'm proposing is the case for six, which is only one slot more than what we already have now, simply for consistency with DAO's structure.

How many people have played how many Wardens and how many playthroughs they will have of DA:I is not my hill to die on. All I'm defending is internal logic, which could be achieved by bumping the slot count by one single digit.

[Elhanan]

When people applied doesn't matter.  Most of us probably applied the second it opened up.  They have had over 100,000 applications.
 
In a month and a half we'll all be in.

Hopefully, but I applied using older specs, and being Techless, always wonder if I sent the incorrect info.

[aaarcher86]

Hopefully, but I applied using older specs, and being Techless, always wonder if I sent the incorrect info.

 

I can't even remember what questions were asked or what I might have put! 

 

I'm hoping they open it up on 10/7 to ease the sting of the game release delay.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

It's good to know that you'll be able to recreate your custom Hawke. My final concern is DLC. Aside from Awakening, which I separate from DLC because it's an expansion pack, the only Dragon Age DLC that I played were Stone Prisoner and Witch Hunt. I'll try to read up on those, or something.

[QueenPurpleScrap]

Just because people only played once (inconceivable to me, lol) doesn't mean they won't take advantage of the option to explore the decisions they didn't make. If you've never played one or both of the first DA games then you might want to create different world-states just to get a feel for the universe and decide on your preferred background. I'll predict right now that the number of people with more than one world-state is going to be greater than the number of people who played DAO only once even if they ultimately only play DAI one time.

[Elhanan]

Currently, my plan is to re-create:

* Canon Warrior tale
* Canon Rogue tale
* Canon Mage tale
* Evil Mage storyline
* Misc variable backgrounds for Inquisitor

This should occupy a few days before DAI is released.

[movieguyabw]

Just because people only played once (inconceivable to me, lol) doesn't mean they won't take advantage of the option to explore the decisions they didn't make. If you've never played one or both of the first DA games then you might want to create different world-states just to get a feel for the universe and decide on your preferred background. I'll predict right now that the number of people with more than one world-state is going to be greater than the number of people who played DAO only once even if they ultimately only play DAI one time.

 

It's a long game.  I only ever played 1 all the way through, myself.    The other playthroughs didn't make it far past the Origin stories.

 

And I actually don't know if I agree that the majority of people played multiple times.  Most of the people I know in RL who've played the game have only one character.  It could just be that there's a larger amount of people on the forums who've played multiple because forums tend to be populated by those of us who **really** love the games - which isn't going to be the case for a majority of the fanbase. 

[Azucuache]

Hm, I don't really see the limited number of slots as a problem. But maybe that's just me. I plan to create one, play it, finish it, delete it and create another. I'm fine with one, I'm over-excited with five. The point is, to be able to play DA:I with some of my previous decidions from the first two games reflected in it, and even those five slots would do for it.

 

Like I said, maybe it's just me. If so, I am glad, beucase for me it's then, as Varric put it, one less thing to worry about Anyway, I really like what I hear about Keep so far and cannot wait to see it for my eyes. Month and a half can never pass quick enough.

[Icy Magebane]

It's good to know that you'll be able to recreate your custom Hawke. My final concern is DLC. Aside from Awakening, which I separate from DLC because it's an expansion pack, the only Dragon Age DLC that I played were Stone Prisoner and Witch Hunt. I'll try to read up on those, or something.

Yeah, I have no idea what happened in any DA2 DLC... the wiki should be good enough to get us up to speed though.  If not, maybe a youtube Let's Play could work... It's unfortunate that we can't skip those, since I'd rather not incorporate parts of the story that I have no direct experience with, or would rather actively refuse to pursue, as in the case of Witch Hunt.

[Ieolus]

Yes, but they had so many bugs with how games imported from DAO even to DAO:A, that then got imported to GoA, then to WH, then to DA2... bugs compounded upon bugs that were never fixed so this way, while it may be an inconvenience, this way you can correct and even change all choices.  Like for example, one of the biggest bugs that annoyed players to no end was if you romanced Morrigan, well it didn't matter because when she left the party at the end of the game (even amicably) it canceled your romance with her.  Which, it wasn't supposed to do.  So, the "workaround" was to save the "Golden Mirror" plot gift and after the end game when you are in the "You can do DLC but nothing else" time in camp, give it to her.  This would reactivate the romance flags, you then save.  BUT, if you did not know this was broken in this way, so you didn't fix it or you already gave her the mirror, then you find out after playing through Awakening and Golems that in Witch Hunt you broke up with Morrigan... but no you say you didn't break up with her.. yeah you did... it's a bug. 

This is how you handle the situation, plus other plot flags that are incorrect to your play:

 

Using the Keep, Import via file.  Then show the results and let you change anything that is incorrect.  Boom, easy peasy.

[AshenEndymion]

Yeah, I have no idea what happened in any DA2 DLC... the wiki should be good enough to get us up to speed though.  If not, maybe a youtube Let's Play could work... It's unfortunate that we can't skip those, since I'd rather not incorporate parts of the story that I have no direct experience with, or would rather actively refuse to pursue, as in the case of Witch Hunt.

 

Who says you can't skip it?

 

As I understand it, you don't have to choose something for every choice.  It's likely that those choices you don't bother with will be set to "default"(or having an option within the keep to set them to default).

[Ranadiel Marius]

This is entirely academic, since it is too late for them to add that, but that solution is not "easy peasy." To do that, they would have to increase their bandwidth significantly, add decryption functionality for PS3 native save encoding (and 360 if it has any), add additional checks and logic for handling hacked data/ states that are impossible to generate in the Keep, and once all of it is done you would still have to enter 75% of Origins data since most Origins data was pruned or bugged in DA2.

[Bellanaris88]

Who says you can't skip it?

 

As I understand it, you don't have to choose something for every choice.  It's likely that those choices you don't bother with will be set to "default"(or having an option within the keep to set them to default).

 

^This. That's what the devs said. I believe it was David gaider at some point. Everything happend one way or another and if you don't fill that flag it will be set to default.

[Rogue Roxy]

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[Bellanaris88]

It's a long game.  I only ever played 1 all the way through, myself.    The other playthroughs didn't make it far past the Origin stories.

 

And I actually don't know if I agree that the majority of people played multiple times.  Most of the people I know in RL who've played the game have only one character.  It could just be that there's a larger amount of people on the forums who've played multiple because forums tend to be populated by those of us who **really** love the games - which isn't going to be the case for a majority of the fanbase. 

 

As far as I know, no one claimed that. We know that we are a tiny minority

 

Hm, I don't really see the limited number of slots as a problem. But maybe that's just me. I plan to create one, play it, finish it, delete it and create another. I'm fine with one, I'm over-excited with five. The point is, to be able to play DA:I with some of my previous decidions from the first two games reflected in it, and even those five slots would do for it.

 

Like I said, maybe it's just me. If so, I am glad, beucase for me it's then, as Varric put it, one less thing to worry about Anyway, I really like what I hear about Keep so far and cannot wait to see it for my eyes. Month and a half can never pass quick enough.

 

The problem isn't really the 5 world states at a time. It was stated, that DAI uploads our progress in the game and it is stored there for possible future games to import. And we are concerned that those 5 world states will just be updated with that progress instead of storing it seperately. So if we would delete or alter one of our WS, it would delete or overrite our DAI progress and we would be limited for all future games.

[movieguyabw]

As far as I know, no one claimed that. We know that we are a tiny minority

 

I was replying to Queenpurplescrap's comment.  On first glance I thought she was saying that there were more people out there who have played multiple characters, than single ones.  I guess I was reading it wrong, however - just looked at it again.  XD

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Who says you can't skip it?

 

As I understand it, you don't have to choose something for every choice.  It's likely that those choices you don't bother with will be set to "default"(or having an option within the keep to set them to default).

Perhaps, but the default ME1 choices in Mass Effect 2 were terrible.  Everybody dies, you don't meet certain people, Shepard makes evil choices, etc.  I'm okay with reading about or watching the DLCs and making a choice instead of taking that risk.