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[TeamLexana]

I shall guard my email on Mon then but I won't hold my breath, I wouldn't want to turn into a purple sad panda.

[TeamLexana]

My damn email trolled me again! I went to check it and I had a mail saying that open beta has begun.... unfortunately it's for some random game ArcheAge and I don't even know why they have my email in the first place. Grrrrr. I usually set EVERYTHING to not send me email "offers" whenever I am forced to give my email to sign up for something.

[thanotos omega]

I'm just logging my complaint with it not being a download, I don't care about bug fixes taking longer, I don't want a key feature of the game hidden behind a superfluous Origins shill, I am willing to give the space on my hard drive at least let me store world states there so some random internet trouble doesn't ruin the game. 

[dutch_gamer]

It doesn't only take them longer to fix bugs but it will also cost Bioware money for bandwidth and development. You may be willing to wait longer but are you also willing to pay extra for it? So every single patch would cost the customer money even if you don't want to download it. Or you could simply accept technology moves on and use the new method. Not wanting to connect to the Internet will eventually not be an option any longer and games will be a thing of the past if you stick to that stance.

[Rel Fexive]

I'm just logging my complaint with it not being a download, I don't care about bug fixes taking longer, I don't want a key feature of the game hidden behind a superfluous Origins shill, I am willing to give the space on my hard drive at least let me store world states there so some random internet trouble doesn't ruin the game. 

 

You might find that reading the info on hos it works a bit more might alleviate some of your concerns.  This is a thing you use in your internet browser to set something up that a new game will only need to access once  to upload the world state.  Once that is done - which will presumably either work or not work - that connection is not required again for playing the game.  And if the import doesn't work you can try again until it does, then start the game.  No problem.

[thanotos omega]

It doesn't only take them longer to fix bugs but it will also cost Bioware money for bandwidth and development. You may be willing to wait longer but are you also willing to pay extra for it? So every single patch would cost the customer money even if you don't want to download it. Or you could simply accept technology moves on and use the new method. Not wanting to connect to the Internet will eventually not be an option any longer and games will be a thing of the past if you stick to that stance.

 

I'm going to be frank here, If they can't set up a simple bot to make and request every possible back ground, Then that's on them, I love BioWare's games, But they have had an extra year to fix bugs, I'm sorry but my ability to feel sorry for them having to patch something they had an extra year to work on is nonexistent.

 

 

You might find that reading the info on hos it works a bit more might alleviate some of your concerns.  This is a thing you use in your internet browser to set something up that a new game will only need to access once  to upload the world state.  Once that is done - which will presumably either work or not work - that connection is not required again for playing the game.  And if the import doesn't work you can try again until it does, then start the game.  No problem.

 

I read how it works, And i still don't like it, I shouldn't need EA to be working to make a game that is inline with my wants, And i most certainly shouldn't need to have a PC to play a game on a console.

[aaarcher86]

I'm going to be frank here, If they can't set up a simple bot to make and request every possible back ground, Then that's on them, I love BioWare's games, But they have had an extra year to fix bugs, I'm sorry but my ability to feel sorry for them having to patch something they had an extra year to work on is nonexistent.

 

 

 

I read how it works, And i still don't like it, I shouldn't need EA to be working to make a game that is inline with my wants, And i most certainly shouldn't need to have a PC to play a game on a console.

 

You don't.  You can use the Keep on a tablet, phone, anything with a browser.  Hell, whatever you're using to post here would work.

 

You also don't have to at all and you could use the default world state. 

 

I'd rather them not take up large amounts of disc space with the Keep, personally.

[thanotos omega]

You don't.  You can use the Keep on a tablet, phone, anything with a browser.  Hell, whatever you're using to post here would work.

 

You also don't have to at all and you could use the default world state. 

 

I'd rather them not take up large amounts of disc space with the Keep, personally.

 

I have a PC, I am lucky to have received it as a gift, Others may not be so lucky, Others may have spent their entire annual entertainment budget buying a game that at present, Embodies many of the complaints leveled at EA, Because of one bad choice, You think folks will be happy when this hits the mainstream? Unlike From Ashes this can be seen as a real core feature being withheld to force gamers to use Origin, I don't want another ME3 ending fiasco, I liked having blind faith in BioWare, and was looking forward to having that restored, but this is a horrible idea, EA has a very bad track record with online features, I really don't feel like having to deal with waiting for hours because their serves got blasted by people wanting to use a part of the game.

[Jawzzus]

It's not servers though, its a website just like this, if this can handle thousands upon thousands of people (and it spiked huge at each romance announcement) then the Keep should as well.

[Herky]

It's not a feature that's being withheld. The whole point is to fix the corruption that happens when they did it the old way, when choices transferred incorrectly and bugs happened. They're just doing it because save transfers between games and consoles is unreliable and with it being browser based none of that is a problem anymore.

[aaarcher86]

I have a PC, I am lucky to have received it as a gift, Others may not be so lucky, Others may have spent their entire annual entertainment budget buying a game that at present, Embodies many of the complaints leveled at EA, Because of one bad choice, You think folks will be happy when this hits the mainstream? Unlike From Ashes this can be seen as a real core feature being withheld to force gamers to use Origin, I don't want another ME3 ending fiasco, I liked having blind faith in BioWare, and was looking forward to having that restored, but this is a horrible idea, EA has a very bad track record with online features, I really don't feel like having to deal with waiting for hours because their serves got blasted by people wanting to use a part of the game.

 

I honestly doubt most people will feel it's a core feature being withheld.  People without internet connections are the only ones that have a legitimate complaint, IMO. 

 

The Keep isn't keeping anyone from playing the game.  And it seems that you're more upset about something that 'may' happen at some point down the road.  I don't really get bent out of shape on what ifs, personally. 

 

Like I said, I'd rather it not take up massive amounts of space on the discs and doing it this way allows me to move my saves from my previous console to this one.  I think they pulled it off really well actually.

[thanotos omega]

It's not servers though, its a website just like this, if this can handle thousands upon thousands of people (and it spiked huge at each romance announcement) then the Keep should as well.

 

It's still has all the potential to go the same way as Diablo 3's launch, Which BioWare Doesn't need with the amount of people calling this "their last chance to redeem them selves" For me it's another game, but one with an annoying flaw with what should have been used since Mass Effect 2,

 

 

It's not a feature that's being withheld. The whole point is to fix the corruption that happens when they did it the old way, when choices transferred incorrectly and bugs happened. They're just doing it because save transfers between games and consoles is unreliable and with it being browser based none of that is a problem anymore.

 

I know that, But it still does not justify keeping it and the saves on a web site instead of on a local storage device,

 

 

 

 

What about a compromise? Just include like 20 options on the actual game, so i can choose the race/class/general alignment of of Hawke and the Warden.

[Jawzzus]

Actually it does, they've already said that neither Sony nor Microsoft would let them save the world state to the hard drive, they won't allow files from a third party to make hard saves.  So if they wanted it to save to the harddrive, it would of had to of been in game, which means less room for other stuff on the game.

[aaarcher86]

It's still has all the potential to go the same way as Diablo 3's launch, Which BioWare Doesn't need with the amount of people calling this "their last chance to redeem them selves" For me it's another game, but one with an annoying flaw with what should have been used since Mass Effect 2,

 

 

 

I know that, But it still does not justify keeping it and the saves on a web site instead of on a local storage device,

 

 

 

 

What about a compromise? Just include like 20 options on the actual game, so i can choose the race/class/general alignment of of Hawke and the Warden.

 

I didn't play Diablo, but since the Keep will be available for a month or so before the game launches they'll have plenty of time to stress everything, make sure it's working accordingly, and at that point most people will have their saves ready to go and load and all different times of the day. 

 

It doesn't sounds like it's the same situation at all. 

[thanotos omega]

I honestly doubt most people will feel it's a core feature being withheld.  People without internet connections are the only ones that have a legitimate complaint, IMO. 

 

The Keep isn't keeping anyone from playing the game.  And it seems that you're more upset about something that 'may' happen at some point down the road.  I don't really get bent out of shape on what ifs, personally. 

 

Like I said, I'd rather it not take up massive amounts of space on the discs and doing it this way allows me to move my saves from my previous console to this one.  I think they pulled it off really well actually.

 

 

People thought from ashes was a core feature, this is even closer since to the layman it looks like they took away a feature and then forced them to use EA, you know a company that lost out to guys who crashed the world economy in popularity contest? I don't want BioWare loosing money and not getting the big budgets it gets, because of a nonresistant need for this to be online only, It can be both, I don't mind it being on a website but i want it where i can get to it when ever i want without any 3rd party involved,

[thanotos omega]

Actually it does, they've already said that neither Sony nor Microsoft would let them save the world state to the hard drive, they won't allow files from a third party to make hard saves.  So if they wanted it to save to the harddrive, it would of had to of been in game, which means less room for other stuff on the game.

Thanks to Ubisoft i'm going to need a statement from Sony/Microsoft to that effect, And again an extra Year, I can't be bothered to feel bad for them not getting this stuff done.

[Jawzzus]

Ok, then don't.  Nobody is forcing you to use the Keep, you can play the game perfectly fine without it, so go ahead and do that.

[thanotos omega]

Ok, then don't.  Nobody is forcing you to use the Keep, you can play the game perfectly fine without it, so go ahead and do that.

 

Your right nobody is, Except BioWare always pics really lousy canons that royal jip the player, so unless i want like 20 quest cut off and half the final resources i will probably need to use it,

[aaarcher86]

People thought from ashes was a core feature, this is even closer since to the layman it looks like they took away a feature and then forced them to use EA, you know a company that lost out to guys who crashed the world economy in popularity contest? I don't want BioWare loosing money and not getting the big budgets it gets, because of a nonresistant need for this to be online only, It can be both, I don't mind it being on a website but i want it where i can get to it when ever i want without any 3rd party involved,

 

That's not even an appropriate comparison, IMO.  From Ashes was offered for a fee to a fraction of gamers that didn't purchase the deluxe edition of the game.  Essentially, people felt that content was pulled from the base game and they were being charged double.

 

The Keep charges no one, and everyone is in the same position in regards to it. 

[thanotos omega]

That's not even an appropriate comparison, IMO.  From Ashes was offered for a fee to a fraction of gamers that didn't purchase the deluxe edition of the game.  Essentially, people felt that content was pulled from the base game and they were being charged double.

 

The Keep charges no one, and everyone is in the same position in regards to it. 

 

I know that, Hence the term layman, Allot of people treat games like movies they have very simple expectations, By now allot of people consider save import a standard feature for Bioware sequels, when they find out it's gone they will be annoyed, when they find out it's replacement is linked to Origin, their crazy friends who keep saying EA is ruining BioWare start sounding more sane, It's a giant pitfall that could have been removed but hasn't, And BioWare recently proved they can indeed make horrible obvious mistakes that can have a rather nasty back lash, Two of those in a row and EA may second guess giving them the huge budgets that make these games so good.

[dutch_gamer]

Your right nobody is, Except BioWare always pics really lousy canons that royal jip the player, so unless i want like 20 quest cut off and half the final resources i will probably need to use it,

Bioware picks the states which solves the most loose ends. You may thinks this jips the player or whatever but it is the better choice without them seemingly preferring anything in particular.

Also, it was the decision of the Bioware developers to create the Keep because the migration to a new generation of consoles necessitated a solution for world states. The Keep is the better solution moving forward because it makes It easier to deal with bugs but it is also future proof for future console generations. EA has little to nothing to do with the Keep other than it being accessible with Origin only.

I feel you are also comparing apples with oranges. The Keep is not a game so its availibility at release differs from the issues which plaqued actual games. I have yet to have serious issues with Origin. I have never had issues with SWTOR at release either. Yes, Sim City had issues but it was a different type of game and I don't see why the issues that plaqued that game woukd beyond a doubt plaque the Keep. In order to get the default world state from the Keep you will only need a connection with the Keep for a short duration. If Bioware can operate this site I don't see why world state importing in the game at release would lead to issues.

[aaarcher86]

Thanks to Ubisoft i'm going to need a statement from Sony/Microsoft to that effect, And again an extra Year, I can't be bothered to feel bad for them not getting this stuff done.

 

I don't know why you keep saying that.  It isn't like they had the time to do it and just couldn't make it happen - it was never in the plan to do in the first place.  There's nothing to feel sorry for them over.  They weighed their options and went with this one.

 

 

I know that, Hence the term layman, Allot of people treat games like movies they have very simple expectations, By now allot of people consider save import a standard feature for Bioware sequels, when they find out it's gone they will be annoyed, when they find out it's replacement is linked to Origin, their crazy friends who keep saying EA is ruining BioWare start sounding more sane, It's a giant pitfall that could have been removed but hasn't, And BioWare recently proved they can indeed make horrible obvious mistakes that can have a rather nasty back lash, Two of those in a row and EA may second guess giving them the huge budgets that make these games so good.

 

Anouncements about the Keep have been out for a little less than a year - people know about it.  I haven't seen much backlash at all.  And again, I really think you're off the mark on how many people will have an issue with this import since lots of people have jumped to next gen consoles or lost their saves, or hate the buggy ones. 

[thanotos omega]

Bioware picks the states which solves the most loose ends. You may thinks this jips the player or whatever but it is the better choice without them seemingly preferring anything in particular.

Also, it was the decision of the Bioware developers to create the Keep because the migration to a new generation of consoles necessitated a solution for world states. The Keep is the better solution moving forward because it makes It easier to deal with bugs but it is also future proof for future console generations. EA has little to nothing to do with the Keep other than it being accessible with Origin only.

I feel you are also comparing apples with oranges. The Keep is not a game so its availibility at release differs from the issues which plaqued actual games. I have yet to have serious issues with Origin. I have never had issues with SWTOR at release either. Yes, Sim City had issues but it was a different type of game and I don't see why the issues that plaqued that game woukd beyond a doubt plaque the Keep. In order to get the default world state from the Keep you will only need a connection with the Keep for a short duration. If Bioware can operate this site I don't see why world state importing in the game at release would lead to issues.

 

OK, I want to make this part clear, The Keep is how it always should have been save importing was very annoying since i always felt pressured to have perfect play through with all the different options, It's not the feature i am worried about, it's the fact that it's being kept somewhere that other peoples mistakes can cost me access,  some site needing maintenance should ever come between a gamer and the game when that game is an offline single player RPG, this is just adding a extra cog to get jammed, And i also don't think of EA as the big bad boogyman other claim it to be, But others do so it affects the game and runs the risk of hurting it's sales, which could hurt future games from my Favorite developer,

[MACharlie1]

Don't you need an internet connection to play the game...period? I think for authentication reasons....

[thanotos omega]

I don't know why you keep saying that.  It isn't like they had the time to do it and just couldn't make it happen - it was never in the plan to do in the first place.  There's nothing to feel sorry for them over.  They weighed their options and went with this one.

 

 

 

Anouncements about the Keep have been out for a little less than a year - people know about it.  I haven't seen much backlash at all.  And again, I really think you're off the mark on how many people will have an issue with this import since lots of people have jumped to next gen consoles or lost their saves, or hate the buggy ones. 

 

You are assuming that the majority of customers are like us and actually follow the news about the games, they don't, they learn the release date watch a few trailers and and then buy it, How long were details about DA 2 out? and yet it's still taking heat, This is a simple matter of a bad call, one with a rather worrisome potential to rile up the more angry parts of the fanbase, I don't like unnecessary risks, i don't want this decision getting everyone still bitter over the ME3 ending into a rage and hurting BioWare's future budgets, Jade Empire 2 may be riding on this game doing well, So forgive me for wanting them to not make any major slip ups,